Walrus Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I had a few 1¢ sales so asked Alamy and I got the reply: Quote We’ve checked and this customer has a faculty image pack with us. This is where a set number of US/UK universities can licence images at a discounted rate. These are universities whose lecturers' lunch money could feed a starving population! The discounts should apply to my images, and mine alone. That's how discounts work in the real world in which a seller needs to make a living, and earn a profit. This agreement Alamy has negotiated on my, sorry, their behalf makes absolute nonsense of Alamy's claim to be on the side of photographers. Playing the numbers game helps only Alamy, and their clients, not the photographer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 There should be a box to tick in the AIM options section saying something like "minimum advertised price only" ie the price Alamy puts in the list next to your image in the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, aphperspective said: There should be a box to tick in the AIM options section saying something like "minimum advertised price only" ie the price Alamy puts in the list next to your image in the port. I've very, very seldom had anything like that price. Alamy would just lower their rack rates, because clearly that's the path they've chosen, though that would make their discounts seem less attractive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 When pressed, I had this reply: Quote You can’t restrict images on our site to a certain value as we need all images available for all markets and all possible license options (unless restricted for certain territories and/or usages). While all of the stock houses can survive by selling at ridiculous prices because they play the numbers game (e.g. x1000 @ £1 each = £1000 for Alamy but for a photographer x1000 @ £1 each = £1), photographers cannot, or shooting stock just becomes a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Walrus said: When pressed, I had this reply: Quote You can’t restrict images on our site to a certain value as we need all images available for all markets and all possible license options (unless restricted for certain territories and/or usages). 4 minutes ago, Walrus said: While all of the stock houses can survive by selling at ridiculous prices because they play the numbers game (e.g. x1000 @ £1 each = £1000 for Alamy but for a photographer x1000 @ £1 each = £1), photographers cannot, or shooting stock just becomes a hobby. The main issue is that Alamy has now Normalised, "Novel Usages". These Novel deals could be excluded had they been classified properly in first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Ore Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Walrus said: When pressed, I had this reply: While all of the stock houses can survive by selling at ridiculous prices because they play the numbers game (e.g. x1000 @ £1 each = £1000 for Alamy but for a photographer x1000 @ £1 each = £1), photographers cannot, or shooting stock just becomes a hobby. From what I read back when the latest contract was released, agencies could negotiate other terms, including minimums. I've always been curious as to what percentage of Alamy's sales are of agency photos and how many are from individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkopix Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, meanderingemu said: While all of the stock houses can survive by selling at ridiculous prices because they play the numbers game (e.g. x1000 @ £1 each = £1000 for Alamy but for a photographer x1000 @ £1 each = £1), photographers cannot, or shooting stock just becomes a hobby. Sadly I think you are right. Stock used to be an additional revenue stream to my commissioned work, now it doesn't seem to be viable anymore. This is not a dig at Alamy, it appears to be right across the sector. The time and effort in researching, shooting, producing and keywording images doesn't really stack up to be a viable business with the current fees and drop in commission. I'll see how this month goes but I think I'd be better off concentrating on other areas of my business and building back up the commissioned work now that covid restrictions have been lifted. I might even try and get my head around NFT's and blockchain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, wilkopix said: NFT's Non Fungable Tangents.🤨 Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Export Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Reported overnight - sold 3 news images taken yesterday of the flooding in Sydney- $1.15 each gross I got very wet to take those images - some reward! shocking Edited March 8, 2022 by Foreign Export Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Foreign Export said: Reported overnight - sold 3 news images taken yesterday of the flooding in Sydney- $1.15 each gross I got very wet to take those images - some reward! shocking had same results last week for LN of a anti war rally. not even worth rushing to upload anymore, using the full 24 hours window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I just had a $200 gross sale for a PD image that I found on the internet for free. If you choose to go out in the rain then so be it. What do you expect these days? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, geogphotos said: I just had a $200 gross sale for a PD image that I found on the internet for free. If you choose to go out in the rain then so be it. What do you expect these days? Shhh... 🙊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) On 07/03/2022 at 04:44, meanderingemu said: The main issue is that Alamy has now Normalised, "Novel Usages". These Novel deals could be excluded had they been classified properly in first place. I believe that Alamy's Image Pack sales is the real gremlin with regards to penny stock sales. Probably heaping additional discounts on top of the already discounted image packs. "...this customer has a faculty image pack with us. This is where a set number of US/UK universities can licence images at a discounted rate." https://www.alamy.com/image-packs.aspx Edited March 9, 2022 by Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teczoom Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Well until today i've been lucky not selling for a few pence but it's finally happened Country: WorldwideUsage: Editorial, E-learning, website and social media and app, any size, single placement and design, worldwide, in perpetuityMedia: Website, app and social mediaPlacement: Single PlacementImage Size: Any sizeStart: 17 March 2022Duration: Unlimited PRICE 0.26 usd BEFORE MY CUT! ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS Alamy you really need to get a grip of this sort of pricing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reimar Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I got a sale for a RF image of a peony for 12 cents - 3 cents to me. But it's OK, license details shows: Additional Details: Downloaded 1 time. So what?😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Kelly Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, Reimar said: I got a sale for a RF image of a peony for 12 cents - 3 cents to me. But it's OK, license details shows: Additional Details: Downloaded 1 time. So what?😒 I got one of those today, too 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbro Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Reimar said: I got a sale for a RF image of a peony for 12 cents - 3 cents to me. But it's OK, license details shows: Additional Details: Downloaded 1 time. So what?😒 One for me as well. So I guess I am not that special. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROC Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Reimar said: I got a sale for a RF image of a peony for 12 cents - 3 cents to me. But it's OK, license details shows: Additional Details: Downloaded 1 time. So what?😒 I’ve had 4 through today and 5 last week. 🙁😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I too got one of those 12-cent sales today. Guess I'm now an official member of the "sales for pence" club. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: I too got one of those 12-cent sales today. Guess I'm now an official member of the "sales for pence" club. ☹️ Welcome. It's getting to be a crowded club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Kyhn Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Oh dear, now it begins again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, Thomas Kyhn said: Oh dear, now it begins again. Obviously distributor, any indication what country since opt out opens Friday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudix Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 No really Alamy, you are going to far! I made 7 sales today, for most of them I got 3c or 6c, one 23c. When Shutter.... started paying me 10c a photo I deleted my portfolio, will do the same now with Alamy. Alamy, I was happy with you for a while, but now you suck.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abiyoyo Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 And one for me. Hopefully it will be that last one sale for that price, because I have changed all my RF to RM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broad Norfolk Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 We seem to be rapidly approaching the point where contributors will be requested to pay for images that are uploaded. There hasn't been any business sense in this for several years now and I fear this has gone well beyond the pits!! Come on, come on........ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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