Marb Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Well I just had a sale for $0. Absolutely taking the………… 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Marb said: Well I just had a sale for $0. Absolutely taking the………… 😡 And Alamy will take 60% of that.😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, geogphotos said: And Alamy will take 60% of that.😄 Glad you find it so amusing. 😕 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Yup, I got me one of those bargain basement sales yesterday, not to China though. Country: United Kingdom Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity. Media: Newspaper - national Print run: Unlimited Insert: more than 25 Placement: National Image Size: up to full area Start: 09 February 2022 Duration: In perpetuity $ 0.17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Celluloid Hero said: Yup, I got me one of those bargain basement sales yesterday, not to China though. Country: United Kingdom Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity. Media: Newspaper - national Print run: Unlimited Insert: more than 25 Placement: National Image Size: up to full area Start: 09 February 2022 Duration: In perpetuity $ 0.17 I have seen this licence reported by other users before. What worries me about these, is that PA is owned by newspapers. Is Alamy giving these rates to what is in effect shareholders of PA. IF that is the case there could be some conflict of interest here. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 so I guess today getting a traditional CT sale for $3 on an AlamyWhack search image, ie the Only image out of 284,975,220 that has the subject, i should report in the "Positive Results" thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLuxx Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 10 February 2022 Royalty-free Country: United Kingdom Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity. Media: Newspaper - national 50 MB 5068 x 3453 pixels 877KB compressed Print run: Unlimited Placement: National Image Size: up to full area Start: 10 February 2022 Duration: In perpetuity $ 0.17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Going to take a very long time for those net to contributor 7cent sales to make it to the $50 cleared threshold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 With my last 5 licences at 37cent going to take me until next pension Christmas bonus to reach the threshold. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 sales at $1.69, minus $1.01 leaves $2.36 which equates to £1.74 for 4 licenses. It's an absolute joke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horst Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 sales in February for 0,20$ Country: GermanyUsage: Editorial, Alamy Access 750 Bilder pro MonatMedia: Editorial website43 MB4749 x 3176 pixels2 MB compressedStart: 06 February 2022Duration: In perpetuity What means 750 pictures in perpetuity for 0,20$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 How can Alamy sell an image I have classified as Rights Managed as Royalty Free? This "sale" has just come through. Also I thought images sold for advertising purposes would command more revenue than the dizzying heights of $0.53 Rights Managed Country: Worldwide Usage: Advertising and promotion, Royalty Free, all media, in perpetuity Media: Promotional brochures/ leaflets/inserts Image Size: Any size Start: 12 February 2022 Duration: Unlimited $ 0.53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROC Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Since I started this thread I’ve had 3 more sales to Germany at $0.20. I’ve had 11 sales in the last week, the total gross for all 11 is $3.60. I wish we could all do something about this. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Unfortunately, I really don't think there is anything contributors can do, especially where the Daily Mail, News UK, Guardian Media Group etc are the biggest shareholders of PA Media who own Alamy. PA Media in their year end 2020 accounts cite the acquisition of Alamy as material to the Group and state the carrying value of Alamy as £24.6m as at 31 December 2020. PA Media further state in the notes to the accounts that the Alamy brand name has an estimated remaining useful life of 19 years. Companies House allow you to download Company accounts for free and to "follow" certain companies. The acquisition of Alamy by PA Media was good for the companies/shareholders concerned but not so good for contributors. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Scammell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Looks like Alamy have done a deal with someone Germany to allow them to hoover up images at 20 cents. My utter contempt for this shower goes deeper and deeper. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Gordon Scammell said: Looks like Alamy have done a deal with someone Germany to allow them to hoover up images at 20 cents. My utter contempt for this shower goes deeper and deeper. I wonder if these low price sales will eventually become the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkopix Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It's no longer sustainable for contributors. The cost of doing shoots is increasing while the returns have decreased dramatically, plus the cut in commission doesn't help. If Alamy are wanting unique, cutting edge material then very low image returns are not the way forward. I'm still waiting for this great news we were promised .. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gordon Scammell said: Looks like Alamy have done a deal with someone Germany to allow them to hoover up images at 20 cents. My utter contempt for this shower goes deeper and deeper. First China, then Germany.... Next should be Ireland with the millions of expats all over the world throughout the centuries ... 🤨😕🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, sb photos said: I wonder if these low price sales will eventually become the norm. I think they will. Where the buyers are also the shareholders and therefore effectively own the image assets a peppercorn fee is all the contributors can expect from now on. As Wilkopix has rightly stated above Alamy will no longer be the place to sell cutting edge original material and will sadly descend into the "Pile 'em high, Sell 'em low" stock imagery category. So very sad that a company that once held such enormous respect for its contributors should end up this way. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riccarbi Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Celluloid Hero said: I think they will. Where the buyers are also the shareholders and therefore effectively own the image assets a peppercorn fee is all the contributors can expect from now on. As Wilkopix has rightly stated above Alamy will no longer be the place to sell cutting edge original material and will sadly descend into the "Pile 'em high, Sell 'em low" stock imagery category. So very sad that a company that once held such enormous respect for its contributors should end up this way. I think that, to a avoid a confict of interest and protect contributors, a publisher should not be allowed to buy a stock photography agency unless it commits itself to do not use the images managed by that agency for its own publications at discounted fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 \ 11 hours ago, Celluloid Hero said: Unfortunately, I really don't think there is anything contributors can do, especially where the Daily Mail, News UK, Guardian Media Group etc are the biggest shareholders of PA Media who own Alamy. PA Media in their year end 2020 accounts cite the acquisition of Alamy as material to the Group and state the carrying value of Alamy as £24.6m as at 31 December 2020. PA Media further state in the notes to the accounts that the Alamy brand name has an estimated remaining useful life of 19 years. Companies House allow you to download Company accounts for free and to "follow" certain companies. The acquisition of Alamy by PA Media was good for the companies/shareholders concerned but not so good for contributors. With Alamy's purchase by PA Media and it's corporate newspaper shareholders is it any wonder that "penny stock" licensing fees by UK newspapers and their syndicates are becoming so noticeable? Royalty-free Country: United Kingdom Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Includes archive rights in-perpetuity. Media: Newspaper - national I wonder if given the opportunity (which I highly doubt would ever happen) how many would opt out of newspaper sales given recent newspaper licensing fees? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Phil said: I wonder if given the opportunity (which I highly doubt would ever happen) how many would opt out of newspaper sales given recent newspaper licensing fees? I certainly would opt out given the opportunity - Main Stream Media pays peanuts and the small presses can't afford large fees, so where is the financial advantage for contributors? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately, the reality of the marketplace is that Alamy's competitors ( and I don't just mean the micros) are offering UK newspapers even lower prices. I am starting to notice one UK daily, the one with the highest circulation, that used to be almost exclusively Alamy is now using an alternative source at least for some of their images. Once shopping habits change it is very hard to reverse the process. On a more positive note Alamy still does have customers who pay decent fees - much more so that the other place I am thinking about where virtually everything is at ultra low level nowadays. Edited February 14, 2022 by geogphotos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Kyhn Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 $0.08 sale here (flower). Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celluloid Hero Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Thomas Kyhn said: $0.08 sale here (flower). Germany. 'In perpetuity' is a phrase myself and my bank account have come to dread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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