Betty LaRue Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Kind of a lousy image. I was in Guthrie, Oklahoma last week and now the sun is not overhead anymore, but lower in the sky. I really wanted the architecture of these old buildings, and I wanted the delivery truck. But this is what I got. Just about as severe a flare as I've ever seen. Does it completely ruin this image or does it add interest? And, if you like it, do you think it would pass QC ? All advice welcome, good or b a d. - Betty https://www.dropbox.com/s/gvxc3pyfohob6dp/_ALI2067-flare.jpg?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Definitely leave it in. Perfect for a positive story about Fedex. Maybe recover the highlights to get a bit more shape in the flare. Or maybe not. No QC problems i can see as long as it's sharp Sorry, Betty. BTW I'm envious of the quality of your optics. Even my hat wouldn't have got me that one. Edit: Oh, is that full size? If so a bit soft, maybe a touch extra sharpening and a downsize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd say the extreme flare makes the picture. Probably fine to submit. But please don't quote me, I only work here (sort of). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlmphotog Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Very strong flare, yes, but a nice striking image. Submit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I like it. Go for it! Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Flares are totally acceptable because they make images made with dslrs look like they're made with a phone. Let us know if it gets through like this. Is the cross stitch pattern in that flare across the windshield and above the van normal for the Fuji? wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brooks Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 A really great image. Good for advertising use. big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Being paranoid, I'm not sure I'd submit it at full size, though. It's probably a good idea to experiment with downsizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarsierspectral Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, wiskerke said: Is the cross stitch pattern in that flare across the windshield and above the van normal for the Fuji? That's exactly what I've been wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, tarsierspectral said: That's exactly what I've been wondering. Could it be a type of moiré? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Thanks everyone! I kind of liked it but I'm just off-beat enough about what I like to not to trust myself on an image like this. Marching to a different drummer, and all that stuff. All those "Pauline" cartoons, that'll be me. And I've never seen the cross stitch pattern before. I don't think I've ever shot directly into a low sun like this. Well, once, but it was a setting summer sun and I only got a mild but very interesting flare. Mostly what made that image was the sun's reflection on the water which made a paddle boarder's leg look all wavy. That one was with the 50-140 Fujinon. I will downsize. Moire? Beats me, John! This image was shot with the Fuji 10-24. I don't shoot with this lens much, but thought with my subject matter, it was the way to go. I've shot it downtown Oklahoma City because of the tall buildings, but never into the sun. Betty Edit to add: Guthrie Oklahoma, after the land run and statehood, became the Capital of Oklahoma. It only lasted 3-4 years when Oklahoma City mucky-mucks decided Oklahoma City should be the capital. I think it was around 1910 some people sneaked into the Guthrie Capitol building and took the state seal back to Oklahoma City. There are a lot of old, architecturally interesting buildings in Guthrie, and a section of town called Guthrie Historical District that is registered as historically significant. Influences in building design are Italianate, late Victorian, Romanesque, Classic Revival and others, and some are mixes of styles. I need to go back and explore further. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guthrie_Historic_District_(Guthrie,_Oklahoma) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdh Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 As for the flare, I really like it and it adds interest so really a good composition for my taste. Overall I find the image slightly too noisy and the cross stitch on the windshield is prominent, drawing attention in 100% view. (NB: I am a confessed pixel fetishist and overcautious, so take my comment with that grain of salt please) When downsizing the picture to 6Mpix the noise almost disappeared and the cross stitch became a lot less prominent. Personally I'd rather upload the downsized that the full size version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Carlsson Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Love lens flare - would never think about removing it. I go look for lens flare compositions with the Canon 16-35mm f/2.8 II as it creates awesome ones with it's circular shaped blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Johansen Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 A tip for avoiding lot of sun "spots" is to have a clean frontglass when shooting straight to sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think it's a lovely shot Betty. I do have to say, though, that if that was one of mine I would have rejected it for Alamy submission right away as not being sharp enough. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Happy for all advice and criticisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Probably the cross stitch will fade with less clarity. Maybe just brush it in. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Inchiquin said: I think it's a lovely shot Betty. I do have to say, though, that if that was one of mine I would have rejected it for Alamy submission right away as not being sharp enough. Alan I think it is very noisy (luminance noise) which gives the appearance of sharpness but which is ruining the detail. The shadow areas are extremely noisy and there are strange crosshatch patterns in places as Wim says. It looks like it has been very underexposed and then recovered in the raw conversion - I wouldn't submit this for fear of failing because of noise and SoLD, not the flare which looks ok in itself. EDIT - perhaps post the raw as well - it would be interesting to interpret it directly rather than the JPEG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's a great pic, but the noise and softness spoil it for me. Love the flare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 A winning snap that will fly through QC, I think. Two small things: I would crop in a touch, enough to get rid of the crack in the road. And I would darken the blue sky some. Nothing wrong with a crack in the ground, but this one pulls the eye away from the main subject. You seem to have a flair for this kind of shot, Betty. Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: A winning snap that will fly through QC, I think. Two small things: I would crop in a touch, enough to get rid of the crack in the road. And I would darken the blue sky some. Nothing wrong with a crack in the ground, but this one pulls the eye away from the main subject. You seem to have a flair for this kind of shot, Betty. Edo Kind words, thank you, Edo. I will reprocess the image and see what I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Ed Rooney said: A winning snap that will fly through QC, I think. May I respectfully disagree Ed (I absolutely agreed with you in an earlier post so no growling or biting please ). I would be surprised if this passes QC due to the excessive noise as well as the softness in parts of the image, very evident when downloaded to one's computer and viewed at 100% But there is only one way to find out - submit it on its own and see what QC say. By the way Betty, my comments are intended as purely objective based on your saying "Happy for all advice and criticisms". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I like it too although I'd be careful not to take down the highlight too much as it looks a tad too grey on my side. Leave it bright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 A bit more luminance NR than usual (ie, some) might work. I sometimes put the LR sharpness up to 40 as well and downsize if I like the image enough, and I like this one a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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