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Just now, Prixpics said:

Me too. I notice the re-application requirement is to upload a PDF of picture sales 'tear sheet'. Given I exclusively sell through Alamy and they don't let us know the publication then this is a hard task. I also have an NUJ card. The 1 hour requirement discussed does limit the time taking pictures and what if while editing a bigger name appears on some stage? 

 

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Adrian. 

The 1 hour thing isn't set in stone.  I agree that providing a tear sheet is ridiculous - Alamy has a record of all sales through it.  Why can't the staff just have a look at your sales record?!

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Quite. 

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9 minutes ago, Colblimp said:

I read your post numerous times because I couldn't believe what you wrote...

I can't believe I've been kicked out of live news. It doesn't make it less true. Nor does it make what  I wrote less valid. Everything I said is based on what apoears in this thread.

 

When you have a bit more time on your hands, maybe you'd like to go back over it and check the facts.

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5 minutes ago, Steve Valentia said:

I can't believe I've been kicked out of live news. It doesn't make it less true. Nor does it make what  I wrote less valid. Everything I said is based on what apoears in this thread.

 

When you have a bit more time on your hands, maybe you'd like to go back over it and check the facts.

What facts?  It sucks that you've been kicked out of live news but making comments about me is bang out of order.  It isn't my fault...

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6 minutes ago, Colblimp said:

What facts?  It sucks that you've been kicked out of live news but making comments about me is bang out of order.  It isn't my fault...

Oh. I was beginning to wonder why you seemed so vitriolic towards me. I am not in any way referring to you. I was quoting somebody else. And that really isn't the whole point of what I was saying. You really should go back and check the facts.

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2 minutes ago, Steve Valentia said:

Oh. how is it going to wonder why you seem so vitriolic towards me. I am not in any way it said to you. I was quoting somebody else. And that really isn't the whole point of what I was saying. You really should go back and check the facts.

Clearly you quoted me because I wrote 'my pics aren't all that', so how you can claim you were quoting someone else is beyond me.  Anyway, I'm not spending any more time on this, I have images to tag...

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19 minutes ago, Colblimp said:

Clearly you quoted me because I wrote 'my pics aren't all that', so how you can claim you were quoting someone else is beyond me.  Anyway, I'm not spending any more time on this, I have images to tag...

Good for you Andy. I hope they sell. Even if they are not all that. 😃 As I said whatever the quote by whoever it wasn't the point.

 

P.s. maybe next time you don't want to be quoted, it might be best if you didn't actually write anything down in a public forum (twice).

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5 hours ago, Avpics said:

They've used an algorithm of sorts to decide who gets the 'chop'. Cold, and clearly very fallible.I would have thought it would be worth people like yourself putting forward a case to be re-instated. 

 

I have stated my case but I'm not holding out much hope. I fear they have already made their minds up on who stays and who goes.

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1 hour ago, Colblimp said:

Clearly you quoted me because I wrote 'my pics aren't all that', so how you can claim you were quoting someone else is beyond me.  Anyway, I'm not spending any more time on this, I have images to tag...

I’m across the pond yet I realized your “not all that” remark was clearly only meant in a self-depreciating, humble way, rather than bragging. Obviously you know what you are doing. It’s ok.

Glad I’m not a submitter to live news or I’d be the first to be kicked out, or have to chase tornadoes here in tornado alley!

Betty

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Cut off from Stockimo News a week before Coachella Music Festival?! #SoSad

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6 hours ago, Betty LaRue said:

I’m across the pond yet I realized your “not all that” remark was clearly only meant in a self-depreciating, humble way, rather than bragging. Obviously you know what you are doing. It’s ok.

Glad I’m not a submitter to live news or I’d be the first to be kicked out, or have to chase tornadoes here in tornado alley!

Betty

Thanks Betty, I'm glad someone knows what that comment was all about.  And there's me trying not to be contentious...

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5 minutes ago, Colblimp said:

Thanks Betty, I'm glad someone knows what that comment was all about.  And there's me trying not to be contentious...

Ah, you little trouble maker you, I mean how dare you have page after page after page of live news submissions! 🤨

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13 minutes ago, LawrensonPhoto said:

Ah, you little trouble maker you, I mean how dare you have page after page after page of live news submissions! 🤨

I know, right?!  I feel like I'm in a privileged position now, which will mean more submissions. 👍 

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I hardly ever submit to Live News - have done maybe 4 times - the last being two weeks ago because I took part in the People's Vote March.  I have had no sales of those images so far and in fact any sales have ended up from stock rather than while still in Live News.  But my recent upload explains why I received the 'you're fired' email.  Now - I can quite understand that Alamy want to tighten up what gets uploaded to Live News and I have sometimes suspected that in some cases it is seen as a quick way of circumventing QC and increasing image numbers - I mean everyday weather pictures as Live News - really?  However - what if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time as a breaking news story unfolds?  And you happen to have your camera and the presence of mind/courage/stupidity to stop and take photos?  Alamy will miss out on all those kinds of (usually sad) stories. 

The one hour upload, is not mandatory but obviously the sooner the images are available the more likely they are to sell, but I am not techie enough to know how to do that - need to be back home at my PC to know what to do.  But OK that's my problem....

So - really I think Alamy should tighten up their criteria as to what qualifies as Live News, not tighten up who can contribute to it.

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9 minutes ago, Camera Girl said:

So - really I think Alamy should tighten up their criteria as to what qualifies as Live News, not tighten up who can contribute to it.

 

Quite agree. The problem might have been solved in that way. - And if a submitter continues to upload non newsworthy images simply disable the privilege.

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Why does Alamy manage change so poorly?

 

Its not difficult to properly engage and consult, then make a decision and implement it.

 

But instead we have Alamy consulting with just a few - and then dumping the decision and the outcome on the rest of us.

 

One would have thought that a few lessons would have been learnt from the proposed commission reduction - but it seems not 

 

Whats next - can only submit images if you live in the UK or USA

 

 

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Just now, Foreign Export said:

Why does Alamy manage change so poorly?

 

Its not difficult to properly engage and consult, then make a decision and implement it.

 

But instead we have Alamy consulting with just a few - and then dumping the decision and the outcome on the rest of us.

 

One would have thought that a few lessons would have been learnt from the proposed commission reduction - but it seems not 

 

Whats next - can only submit images if you live in the UK or USA

 

 

Maybe they have been listening to MPs!! 😮

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34 minutes ago, Camera Girl said:

I mean everyday weather pictures as Live News - really?  

 

So - really I think Alamy should tighten up their criteria as to what qualifies as Live News, not tighten up who can contribute to it.

I fully understand the sentiments and views of those who have had their privilege revoked. 

However these “everyday” weather pics sell, and sell by the cart load. Just take a look at The Sun or Mail, even the Times publishes weather pictures. Yes, the quality is sometimes somewhat dubious. But if that’s what the papers want, and they sell within the Live News period, they command much higher prices. A stock sale of $5-10 is very different than a news sale of $50-150. So, yes they are ‘News’ whether we like it or not.

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Still no reply to my request for reapplication. Still no explanation as to why ALAMY have no idea how to deal with people. You culled the many to save a few. Still awaiting a reply, every day that goes by that you ignore people, the more unprofessional you come across. Because you have handled people so badly I can't imagine why anyone would want to give you their images as stock. I only ever filed live news, and you still didn't push my work. My last agency was bad but at least they gave me regular sales, every week, in the Nationals and online, your outfit reminds me of DEMOTIX, who were awful! and they went down the pan. Well done ALAMY, you aimed to shoot yourself in the foot and didn't miss.

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5 minutes ago, Sally said:

I fully understand the sentiments and views of those who have had their privilege revoked. 

However these “everyday” weather pics sell, and sell by the cart load. Just take a look at The Sun or Mail, even the Times publishes weather pictures. Yes, the quality is sometimes somewhat dubious. But if that’s what the papers want, and they sell within the Live News period, they command much higher prices. A stock sale of $5-10 is very different than a news sale of $50-150. So, yes they are ‘News’ whether we like it or not.

What has this to do with culling photo journalists? I know colleagues who carry full press cards like myself who like myself have been doing live news for years, and are very good at it, who were culled yesterday. If ALAMY wants to be known for selling photo's of rainbows and puddles, then perhaps they should say so and not gove the impression that they are anything more than a stock agency. :)

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I know you are right Sally.  And as a mainly  landscape tog who spends a lot of time by a tripod and then converting RAW files to get the best out of an image, it was wonderfully 'releasing' to shoot jpegs on the March, not have to process them and do the minimum of keywording (captions etc having been done and saved the night before).  And I was considering occasionally joining the 'weather watchers' for the very reasons you mention - I was only intending to do that when more amazing/unusual weather conditions prevailed, and therefore I am disappointed at being locked out of Live News.  I have looked at the application and can't see how I would qualify - that pdf is the main issue.

 

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11 minutes ago, Sally said:

I fully understand the sentiments and views of those who have had their privilege revoked. 

However these “everyday” weather pics sell, and sell by the cart load. Just take a look at The Sun or Mail, even the Times publishes weather pictures. Yes, the quality is sometimes somewhat dubious. But if that’s what the papers want, and they sell within the Live News period, they command much higher prices. A stock sale of $5-10 is very different than a news sale of $50-150. So, yes they are ‘News’ whether we like it or not.

I know you are right Sally.  And as a mainly  landscape tog who spends a lot of time by a tripod and then converting RAW files to get the best out of an image, it was wonderfully 'releasing' to shoot jpegs on the March, not have to process them and do the minimum of keywording (captions etc having been done and saved the night before).  And I was considering occasionally joining the 'weather watchers' for the very reasons you mention - I was only intending to do that when more amazing/unusual weather conditions prevailed, and therefore I am disappointed at being locked out of Live News.  I have looked at the application and can't see how I would qualify - that pdf is the main issue.

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