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I just submitted my reapplication. ūüė쬆I'll admit, I don't upload live news often, even though that's primarily my "day job." But I like knowing the option is there, especially because I end up at a lot of disasters. I covered Hurricane Michael for Washington Post, and I covered the Alabama tornadoes for Christian Science Monitor in March.¬†

 

Much of my Alamy portfolio is generic stock, but it's a bit painful to be cut from the possibility of live news, particularly since I shoot stock to sustain my income BECAUSE I remain in news. 

 

I'm hoping this was just a formality. Alamy's editorial focus was the main thing that drew me here. Crossing my fingers that they keep me. 

 

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I got the, your services are no longer required email and I get it, "I don't shoot live news". Im not going to sit on a Los Angeles freeway for 3 hrs to cover a breaking news story that the cops won't let me anywhere near without a press pass and that is being covered by 10 other news agencies that got to hear about it an hour before me. In saying that like many others I live in the land of earthquakes and wildfires and occasionally  the news comes to me. What do I do with the pictures then? Upload them to stock on a Friday and no one gets to see them till Monday/Tuesday next week? I kind of feel that I have been punished for doing what I was told . Early on it was upload within 2 days then 1 day . Had they asked me to do it within an hour I would have done it and after reading this I guess I would have sold some more images.  Last year Alamy live news asked me to cover the dog surfing event in Huntington Beach. Here is part of the e-mail I got from our live news team. " 

"I have applied for you and one other Alamy Live News photographer. We are really looking forward to seeing your pictures from this event. Please try to have these pictures into us by 8am, GMT the day after the event. Try to get names of the dogs pictured"
 
 
Here is a question for Alamy Live news. If a wildfire or earthquake  hits Orange county sometime in the future would you want me to send you the images?  A simple yes or no will do but if the answer is yes then how?
Regards 
 
PS Sometimes we also get some surf
 
 
Cheers and gone
 
Shergar
 
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I can understand why Alamy wants to cut down/improve the quality of some of the submitted News images, in the small number of images submitted I have tended towards wildlife/weather shots as that's what seems to sell, however I think the wording of the online application is misleading:

 

"Are you able to file IPTC ready images to us within 1 hour of them being taken?" is different to merely an "aim" to submit within the hour as Alamy have since clarified.

 

"Are you able to submit within the hour?" Er, depends as I work irregular hours and sometimes submit them just outside the hour. But say I have a picture of Wayne Rooney lying drunk outside Everton FC I've taken in my non-photography day job and my laptop is two hours away at home. So do you want it in two hours or not at all since I cannot submit to Live News anymore?!!

 

I think it's a overly restrictive way of doing business and the line of "we know what our clients want, we have the experience etc etc" : well I submitted some images a few weeks ago to Live News which didn't sell but as an experiment I sent a very similar one to the Guardian which sold. And the criteria of Live News is confusing: I've seen lots of stuff on Getty about Brexit where they'll send Chris Furlong to some northern Brexit town just to get street/context shots yet nothing is actually "happening". By Alamy's criteria that is stock yet appears on the Getty News feed. Hmmm. 

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2 hours ago, wiskerke said:

Alamy probably just looked at how many News sales one got last year. My guess is that 20 would have been enough. Maybe even 10.

Another factor may have been if Live News has ever pushed one of yours out to the news desks, if not, thumbs down.

I'm afraid I qualified for both, so I'm out and deservedly so.

However rubbish I am at news photography, I seem to bump into stuff quite often. Could it be that the tick box with this: Do you have breaking news images which have been taken in the past hour - is meant for those occasions?

 

wim

What tick box?

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19 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

What tick box?ÔĽŅ

It's in the Dashboard > Additional Revenue options > Reportage/archival or Live News Image Upload service > Apply 

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Thanks, no chance for me to qualify. I still feel dumped on.

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Interesting how it seems to be a slow news day UK, a few sporting events, a mixed bag of weather and some hares in Scotland on Alamy Live News. You'd have thought there would be a bit more going on....

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8 minutes ago, Joseph Clemson said:

Interesting how it seems to be a slow news day UK, a few sporting events, a mixed bag of weather and some hares in Scotland on Alamy Live News. You'd have thought there would be a bit more going on....

I wouldn't know.

I've deleted my Live News bookmark. I'm not going to need it anymore.

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I set off in the early hours of tomorrow morning to cover a motorsports event that I've had live news success from in recent years (had one in the Telegraph from a similar event last month). Plus a few 'weather' photos from time to time. But news permissions have been withdrawn for me as well and although I've re-applied I haven't had a response back yet so tomorrow will be a waste of my time from an Alamy point of view other than general stock. I'll have to look at selling news direct in future if I can. Mainly disappointed in Alamy's general approach to these things - no warning, just dump you. Pity.

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7 minutes ago, Gary Clarke said:

no warning, just dump you

 

That's probably the most disappointing thing about it, we make plans (I was as well) that are simply thwarted, as yours are. I can't see any reason why they shouldn't have given notice of the change, unprofessional in my view.

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10 hours ago, Matt Ashmore said:

 

My understanding is that Stockimo News is unaffected by this change and still active.

 

I can no longer submit to Alamy Live News via the Stockimo App. Guess my super bloom wildflowers at Joshua Tree didn’t sell, but my blood moon photo did. :(

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Maybe the Alamy live news team can say why there aren't any alamy images in any of these picture of the day publications?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/gallery/2019/apr/05/grave-sweeping-day-and-a-gold-coast-cutback-fridays-top-photos

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/05/pictures-day-5-april-2019/view-electricity-wires-caracas-venezuela-west-venezuela-started/

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/best-pictures-of-the-day-a3648561.html

 

To boot out photographers isn't going to improve sales. Get your sales team to do what the other sales teams manage to do day after day.

 

"My chimp just laughed out loud when I told him what Alamy Live News just did"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/pictures-day-21-june-2017/hot-sunny-day-whipsnade-zoo-chimps-given-frozen-fruit-ice-tea/

 

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1 hour ago, Lisa said:

 

I can no longer submit to Alamy Live News via the Stockimo App. Guess my super bloom wildflowers at Joshua Tree didn’t sell, but my blood moon photo did. :(

Hey Lisa 

I got up Wednesday morning with the idea to shoot the super-bloom  at the Carrizo plain Wednesday and Thursday morning,  then get back in time to upload to live news from home Thursday lunchtime, it's about a 400 mile round trip.  In my mind it wasn't breaking news that needed to be uploaded within an hour buttttt I thought that the images might work for some Sunday newspaper/site somewhere in the world this weekend. Well at 1.30 am as I slept like a baby in my truck at the top of the Caliente mountain ridge the e-mail of doom arrived and kind of put an end to that idea. I ended up staying longer but still got home for 4pm. Here are the photos I had planned to send to live news that will now get uploaded sometime this weekend for QC to check Monday at the earliest perhaps go live Tuesday if Im lucky . Not the end of the world but the wildflowers will only last another week or 2 at the most. I heard Joshua tree was busy. 

 

Any live news guys like to offer any advice about what I should or should not have done I would appreciate it as long as you don't use any bad language, I get enough of that at home.

 

https://www.selbyphotography.com/News-alamy/

Best Wishes

 

Shergar 

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11 hours ago, Graham said:

Alamy are not unreasonable about this.  I am an occasional Live News contributor and I know I have sold at least one the next day as a direct consequence (as a result of the vigilance of some kind soul in one of the "Have you found any images in..." thread).

 

Yesterday evening I was coming home over London Bridge and by chance came across a protest by minicab drivers against Sadiq Khan and the imposition of the congestion change on minicabs.  I always have a camera with me and I enthusiastically snapped 100 or so pictures of what was going on, and headed for my train home with great anticipation, planning to upload some to Live News.  It takes me nearly 2 hours to get home, and as I was uploading the pictures to my computer, I checked my emails - what a day to find the notification from Alamy that Live News uploads were no longer possible!

 

A quick call to Alamy resulted in the suggestion that I email Live News with a sample picture, which I did.  They came back shortly afterwards and temporarily restored my Live News upload capability, as a result of which I was able to upload 19 images.  The images were up about 4 hours after they were taken. 

 

I will be looking later today to see whether any of them made the newspapers.  So far as I can see, there were no other Live News uploads covering the same subject yesterday (although there have been similar previous protests, which may mean that newspapers are less inclined to cover a repeat event).

 

Come what may, Alamy were certainly not dogmatic about this and found a way to help when there was an immediate and genuine Live News type event.

 

Graham

Pleased you had a good outcome Graham. I was emailed today to say that accreditation will be still be given when asked for but how do I send in pictures if accredited to an event? Do they open up the Live News feed to me for the event only? 

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19 hours ago, AndrewP said:

It seems that Alamy has 2 types of Live News shooter - the ones who submit regularly and make regular sales and the ones like myself who submit occasionally and make occasional sales. I’m still deciding if it’s worth reapplying and my main reason in doing so would be for those times when I’m in the right place at the right time for something newsworthy. Things like a landmark building in snow, a spectacular sunset, a building fire etc. Previously Alamy have tweeted requests for photos of a breaking news story in a particular location but presumably they will now just email the ones they know have upload privileges.

Three types, people who submit news occasionally and don't sell anything as news. 

 

To get the most compelling pictures where I am (Nicaragua), I'd need to be in Managua and probably take chances that I'm somewhat less willing to take.   I got the letter that I was dropped but could reapply.  Since none of my news submission sold as either news or stock, this isn't huge for me.   I'm not in Managua, and I've seen some excellent shots taken by other Alamy contributors who are there.   Some photos were posted to a Nicaraguan pro photography FB group that were stunning and had other local pros hoping the photographer could stay safe.

 

If Alamy is hand selling news photos as quickly out of the cameras as possible, then photographs that don't serve waste their time.  None of mine sold.   Shrug.  Some people have been complaining that while their news photos didn't sell as news, they did sell later as stock.  So, for those photos, maybe stock rather than news was the way to go.   We have more time to edit, more time to pick shots that aren't just of the moment.

 

Maybe Alamy is trying to cut down time taken looking at photos that aren't news that needs to get to the buyers in the next 15 minutes. 

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 A tip for Berlin Photographers who still have news privileges...probably excess info but may be useful to someone

  • big protest at Alexanderplatz at midday re high rents
  • President Obama is in town -¬†staying at the Adlon and speaking to students at 3,30pm (schlossplatz)

Good luck,

Eden

 

Edit: Oh dear that sounded as if I was gloating,

but was merely trying to be helpful as I can no longer submit to live news

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12 hours ago, Lisa said:

 

I can no longer submit to Alamy Live News via the Stockimo App. Guess my super bloom wildflowers at Joshua Tree didn’t sell, but my blood moon photo did. :(

 

The Live News button from my S app disappeared yesterday, I even re downloaded it but it was still gone, today it is back!

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13 hours ago, Bhandol said:

Maybe the Alamy live news team can say why there aren't any alamy images in any of these picture of the day publications?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/gallery/2019/apr/05/grave-sweeping-day-and-a-gold-coast-cutback-fridays-top-photos

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/05/pictures-day-5-april-2019/view-electricity-wires-caracas-venezuela-west-venezuela-started/

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/best-pictures-of-the-day-a3648561.html

 

To boot out photographers isn't going to improve sales. Get your sales team to do what the other sales teams manage to do day after day.

 

"My chimp just laughed out loud when I told him what Alamy Live News just did"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/pictures-day-21-june-2017/hot-sunny-day-whipsnade-zoo-chimps-given-frozen-fruit-ice-tea/

 

Parm

 

To be fair to Alamy (and I often criticise) - they do feature in the pic-of-the-day galleries quite regularly, actually, given the size and geographic limitations of the agency. There are two in the Times Online gallery today, even if they're the cute-dog-and-sunset variety Alamy are famed for. (one's opinions on the ever-repeated use of the very same dogs/sunset location can differ, but they are feeding a demand, having created the demand in the first place) Although, given the choice, I'd rather take a small print over the online pic-of-day galleries (grateful for either, obvs), because online pays less. And half the time, the publications don't put the tog credit in. Frankly, it's barely worth it financially and will likely only get worse in the next few years. 

 

You cannot compare the reach, manpower and size of operation of the big wires like Reuters, PA, AFP, AP, or compete with them directly, especially not on breaking news. Unless you happen to be the only one there, they'll always win because their togs file directly from camera and often don't need to caption/edit the image prior to filing.

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19 minutes ago, imageplotter said:

 

To be fair to Alamy (and I often criticise) - they do feature in the pic-of-the-day galleries quite regularly, actually, given the size and geographic limitations of the agency. There are two in the Times Online gallery today, even if they're the cute-dog-and-sunset variety Alamy are famed for. (one's opinions on the ever-repeated use of the very same dogs/sunset location can differ, but they are feeding a demand, having created the demand in the first place) Although, given the choice, I'd rather take a small print over the online pic-of-day galleries (grateful for either, obvs), because online pays less. And half the time, the publications don't put the tog credit in. Frankly, it's barely worth it financially and will likely only get worse in the next few years. 

 

You cannot compare the reach, manpower and size of operation of the big wires like Reuters, PA, AFP, AP, or compete with them directly, especially not on breaking news. Unless you happen to be the only one there, they'll always win because their togs file directly from camera and often don't need to caption/edit the image prior to filing.

There is also the issue of information/access.   The agencies get automatic access to information and events while freelancers have to fight to get on mailing lisits and then fight again to get access to events, because we are at the bottom of the feeding chain.    Thus we have to stand around for hours in Downing Street or College Green waiting while the wires turn up just in time for the appearance.  Having said that the vast majority of the wire photographers are good people and very generous with information (in my early days in Westminster news photography I used to follow camera crews around!).   So, it is not a level playing field, but that is part of the fun...

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I can't help but feel that Alamy have just set fire to the bottom rung of the ladder for budding news image suppliers. Those above it can climb out of reach but those of us who were prepared to climb will now have to find somewhere else to do it.

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9 minutes ago, Sultanpepa said:

I can't help but feel that Alamy have just set fire to the bottom rung of the ladder for budding news image suppliers. Those above it can climb out of reach but those of us who were prepared to climb will now have to find somewhere else to do it.

This is true. I would never have progressed to where I am now without the open live news option to give me a start.

 

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1 hour ago, Sally said:

This is true. I would never have progressed to where I am now without the open live news option to give me a start.

 

I guess this is a no starter for Alamy Students now .

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8 hours ago, Andi said:

 

The Live News button from my S app disappeared yesterday, I even re downloaded it but it was still gone, today it is back!

 

Still not appearing on mine, but I'm over it. Regular S App still 'sparks joy'.

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20 hours ago, Shergar said:

Hey Lisa 

I got up Wednesday morning with the idea to shoot the super-bloom  at the Carrizo plain Wednesday and Thursday morning,  then get back in time to upload to live news from home Thursday lunchtime, it's about a 400 mile round trip.  In my mind it wasn't breaking news that needed to be uploaded within an hour buttttt I thought that the images might work for some Sunday newspaper/site somewhere in the world this weekend. Well at 1.30 am as I slept like a baby in my truck at the top of the Caliente mountain ridge the e-mail of doom arrived and kind of put an end to that idea. I ended up staying longer but still got home for 4pm. Here are the photos I had planned to send to live news that will now get uploaded sometime this weekend for QC to check Monday at the earliest perhaps go live Tuesday if Im lucky . Not the end of the world but the wildflowers will only last another week or 2 at the most. I heard Joshua tree was busy. 

 

Any live news guys like to offer any advice about what I should or should not have done I would appreciate it as long as you don't use any bad language, I get enough of that at home.

 

https://www.selbyphotography.com/News-alamy/

Best Wishes

 

Shergar 

 

Wow, what a year for wildflowers!

 

My website:

http://lisawernerphotos.blogspot.com

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