Johnnie5 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I thought this article was interesting. I think if software could describe an image it wouldn't be too far of a step to have it create a list of keywords. I am thinking a program that would automatically create a description and keywords in all the proper fields with a count of the number of people in the image which could be checked for accuracy/edited after the fact before having images go live. It sounds like it may be just a few years away and would be a time saver and help eliminate some of the tediousness of manually entering that information. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-new-software-can-describe-photos-with-almost-human-accuracy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I don't actually hate keywording; but I hate getting to it. I feel the same way about writing and washing dishes. I wash dishes by hand here in my little NYC flat, and I find it very relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'll back a few carefully chosen keywords over some keyword spamming algorith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 At first I thought this post was an early, or late, April fool. I'm with you on this one John. Having looked at keywording programs and seeing all the inappropriate keywords thrown up by them, which then takes more time deleting same. No thanks. Ed I like washing the dishes by hand too. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I don't really hate keywording, especially if I'm learning something new, but I do hate myself for procrastinating, which I'm very good at. As a semi-Luddite, I still think that the best keywords are the ones we dream up ourselves. However, I'll try to keep an open mind on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi2ap Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Couldn't agree more that sometimes the thought of key-wording is much worse than actually getting on with it. When I'm in the right mood I find it can be as entertaining as a crossword puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Yarvin Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I don't hate keywording and now that I'm a bit better at it, I even have some enthusiasm for it. It is THE essential skill for all stock photographers, regardless of specialty, approach or subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 A bit of a chore, but the problem will be when and if I ever overcome my current time of troubles and instead of a steady drip-drip-drip have about 750 to do all at once. At the moment I can't even face the processing, let alone the keywording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I quite enjoy the research involved, so easy using the Internet. Wish the Alamy software was a bit more user friendly, but we've already had that discussion! Needs to be tackled in the right frame of mind, and thinking that this is something that needs to be disposed of quickly is not the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 A bit of a chore, but the problem will be when and if I ever overcome my current time of troubles and instead of a steady drip-drip-drip have about 750 to do all at once. At the moment I can't even face the processing, let alone the keywording. Feel your pain Mark, am currently working through a stack of images from a trip abroad. Trying to do a batch each evening. Must be difficult to find motivation if locked out of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 My most hated thing. Love the photography, like the developing, too much time taken in key wording. It's not so much hating the process of doing it but hating the time it takes. A huge bite altogether out of presenting an image. Betty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 OT, Betty, love the very new avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Automatic descriptor software would be almost useless for Alamy images which thrive on specifics of location and precise object detail. I suspect when we have artificial intelligence software which can describe a photo to that level of detail it will probably also be capable of taking a better photograph than we can; at which point we can all crawl off to a corner and vegetate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 OT, Betty, love the very new avatar. Thanks, Mark. I shot that yesterday holding my Nikon and pointing it at myself in a mirror. Where there's a will.... edited to add. I posted a couple this past week taken with the RX100 in front of my face but the wide angle distorted my features, elongated my face and were horrible. The mirror was the best option, giving me some distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 OT, Betty, love the very new avatar. Thanks, Mark. I shot that yesterday holding my Nikon and pointing it at myself in a mirror. Where there's a will.... So did you remember to flip the image left to right or is it a mirror image of you? When I see a real image of myself it always looks wrong. I prefer my mirror image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 OT, Betty, love the very new avatar. Thanks, Mark. I shot that yesterday holding my Nikon and pointing it at myself in a mirror. Where there's a will.... So did you remember to flip the image left to right or is it a mirror image of you? When I see a real image of myself it always looks wrong. I prefer my mirror image Lol, no flip. I guess because it looked exactly like what I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydingo Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If I hated key-wording I'd be doing something else . . . like working in AI and making exaggerated claims about how software was on the verger of being as intelligent as humans. dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I used to think I keyworded well. Then smart people (Wim, you guilty one among others) made me aware I was only seeing and using the tip of the iceberg. I thought there was only one way to spell St. Croix. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Llun Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 John Mitchell: "I don't really hate keywording, especially if I'm learning something new, but I do hate myself for procrastinating, which I'm very good at." I hate procrastination which is why I always put it off as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Keywording is probably the most important aspect of stock photography: like a second 'aperture' through which customers can view your pix. Get it right and your pictures are in the shop window; get it wrong and they're in the cupboard under the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 John Mitchell: "I don't really hate keywording, especially if I'm learning something new, but I do hate myself for procrastinating, which I'm very good at." I hate procrastination which is why I always put it off as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Keywording is probably the most important aspect of stock photography: like a second 'aperture' through which customers can view your pix. Get it right and your pictures are in the shop window; get it wrong and they're in the cupboard under the stairs. +1 Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Palmer Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I don't think I've mastered keywording yet but if the automatic spelling correction software on tablets are any indication it will be a long time before we can rely on software to automatically keyword our images effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brooks Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not a good thing for photographers if Google is able to use automatic keywording software to make the billions of photographs on Google more easy for copyright thieves to locate and then steal. I see keywording as part of the photographic process. It helps me think about my images, so I love keywording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmillskies Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 One of the searches yesterday was for "Lincoln Cathedral (pt)" - I've got several on the system, yet only one was returned in the search, so I looked into what I'd typed - seems that in the essential keywords I'd not put Lincoln, as I thought it would be picked up by location - goes to show, no matter what you could get a machine to do for you the blindingly obvious matters. Martin www.windmillskies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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