ReeRay Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Alex Ramsay said: Very disappointing, particularly after deceiving many of us into making our images exclusive when they already knew what they intended to do. I won't say it's actually dishonest, but it's certainly sharp practice. Alex Deleted - can't be bothered anymore Edited May 17, 2021 by ReeRay 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I thought the 17th May was going to be a memorable day - but not quite in the way I expected! John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 You getting the drift, Alamy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Just now, losdemas said: You getting the drift, Alamy? They might be, but they will do what they want to anyway. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Export Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, geogphotos said: So funny all this talk of the 'core 40%' being maintained as though we should be reassured. Not long ago it was 65% soon the core will be 20% for all of us - definitely by 2025 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokane Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 "How many contributors actually earn over 25k? I'd imagine it's a pretty small minority?" I'd like to know that too. With some 27,000 images on sale I get roughly $16,000 gross per annum, having been a contributor almost since the beginning. No chance of reaching $25,00 in my lifetime, it seems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokane Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (My image manager page says I have 27,607 images - but the side panel here says 23,990 - why the difference?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) @Alamy since Alamy's Distribution commission is doubled (from 30% to 60%), will you open an opt-out window at the time of the Contract change, or are you making this change with no options for Contributor to address it until next April? actually i misread. it's 60% of the remaining, but we have no limit on what the distributors take that i can see. so this can be anything. ADDED NOTE: Thanks for many pointing out blog states, New 3 Months window will open. Still not sure why this wasn't contractual. Edited May 17, 2021 by meanderingemu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayembee69 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 If Alamy thinks I'm going to supply them with any more of my photos so that they can make more money out of them than me, then they're delusional as well as greedy and exploitative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael Ventura Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) This is another gut punch. I mentioned in another thread, about being in a rut, that I have not ben as inspired to shoot stock for sake of stock, due to lower and lower prices....now it will be even tougher to get excited about shooting stock. Another sad day in the timeline of stock photography. Edited May 17, 2021 by Michael Ventura 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: @Alamy since Alamy's Distribution commission is doubled (from 30% to 60%), will you open an opt-out window at the time of the Contract change, or are you making this change with no options for Contributor to address it until next April? As per blog: It remains optional to be part of distribution sales. The current opt-out will be kept open for the next three months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gorilla Dave Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 Dear Alamy, I only have a small set of images with Alamy but I normally manage above average CTR, and the number of sales per annum is above what I might expect. ( last 5 yrs - average 6 sales per annum from 390 images). All my images are exclusive. I would probably fall into the Silver category. My best sale was an advertising sale for $3900 (gross); through a distributor, so I got 40% of that. I’d like to do more like that, but if I did, my cut would be only 20%. There is no incentive for small contributors or for new contributors to join in. I don’t see how Alamy can continue to be “…the world’s most diverse stock photo collection”, if all those thousands of small contributors like myself are pushed away. Under this new model, there is no point in making further submissions. If that is Alamy’s intention, why don’t they just say… “we only want to deal with big picture libraries in the future”. GD 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreign Export Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 when Alamy asked for feedback in their post - isn't the feedback entirely predictable - or did they think someone was going to write - oh goody great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, AndrewP said: A tip for new contributors who have yet to sign up to Alamy. Rather than apply with a collection of just a few images and continuously upload new work as soon as it’s created, wait until you have several hundred images ready. Then apply and upload it all at once as soon as you’re accepted and you’ll have a much better chance of beating the $250 limit within your first year. Not at 20% they won't they will be chasing their tails for a long time if they will ever achieve $250 sales per 2 minutes ago, Michael Ventura said: This is another gut punch. I mentioned another thread, about being in a rut, that I have not ben as inspired to shoot stock for sake of stock....now it will be even tougher to get excited about shooting stock. Another sad day in the timeline of stock photography. I got to that point nearly five years ago. I too was thinking of restarting, against my better judegement on the future of stock photography (it is on its last legs and has been for years) . Thank you Alamy, you have prevented me wasting yet more tiome on you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Allsopp Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 51 minutes ago, geogphotos said: My prediction to calm you all down? Same as last time. They will reconsider and hit non-exclusives even harder ( 30% maybe) and you will all be relieved and go along with it. 🙃 I for one will not. If I am still here when that happens (and I say when not if) it will absolutely be the end of the road for me. As I feel now I am unlikely to submit any further images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, gvallee said: As per blog: It remains optional to be part of distribution sales. The current opt-out will be kept open for the next three months. thanks, looked through the Contract changes and couldn't find anything. may be Other thing i can't find is a limit or explicitly stated commission taken by the distributor. So the drop may be even higher. Here comes below one cents sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill Allsopp said: I for one will not. If I am still here when that happens (and I say when not if) it will absolutely be the end of the road for me. As I feel now I am unlikely to submit any further images. Me too, And I DEFINTELY WILL NOTresume submitting as I was intending—I have not submitted for several years. I have a new account elsewhere so I will look at how I am going to use that and look at which (of my better, moist commercial) images I will need to pull from Alamy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alla Bama Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Guys, do not engage in verbiage, thereby spinning the thread and the forum as a whole! As the management of the alami decided, so it will be. And nothing you can do. I can imagine how they read your posts and grin. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: thanks, looked through the Contract changes and couldn't find anything. may be Other thing i can't find is a limit or explicitly stated commission taken by the distributor. So the drop may be even higher. Here comes below one cents sales. True, it only says 'you get 40% of what Alamy gets'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarloBo Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Another commission cut, who would have expected? But calling it GOLD....seriously?? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokane Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 and just remember that a cut on commission of 50% to 40% is a 20% reduction (not a 10% one!) in the amount paid to contributors. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 New BLOG Post https://www.alamy.com/blog/new-contributor-commission-structure?utm_campaign=1935473_Contract Change 2021&utm_medium=email&utm_source=contributoremail&dm_i=2SWW,15HF5,6KT8C8,4FXDQ,1 I don't remember anyone asking for this in the request for ideas for Blog Posts. i guess that was really also just lip service. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryD Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Interesting wording on the distribution sales commission, it used to be that the distributor got 40% and alamy got 30% leaving 30% for you. Now Alamy get 60% of what is left AFTER the distributor has taken their cut for Platinum or Gold and 80% for silver. If you assume the distributor is still taking 40% (it is totally undisclosed in the new table.) Previously you got 30% Platinum you will get 18% Gold you will get 18% and SIlver will get 12% Have I got this wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radim Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Let's face itIt's a great job unfortunately only for Alamy not for contributors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BidC Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, bokane said: "How many contributors actually earn over 25k? I'd imagine it's a pretty small minority?" I'd like to know that too. With some 27,000 images on sale I get roughly $16,000 gross per annum, having been a contributor almost since the beginning. No chance of reaching $25,00 in my lifetime, it seems. This is probably a query built on misunderstanding, but there is a difference between 'sales' and 'earnings' (refer to the dashboard). My query is: does the tier cut off refer to 'sales' (ie total amount which includes Alamy commission ) or 'earnings' of the contributor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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