How would you keyword this one?

[wiskerke]

As many of you know, English is not my first language. (Maybe not even my second.)

So keywording often is a challenge and can be a chore. Usually I manage though, but with this one I'm stuck.

It's simple enough: bookcases with books and on top the words Who wants to live forever?

 

This is the image:

 

It is a library of books that would be needed to restart a new civilization after the breakdown of our current one. It was part of an exhibition in the V&A in 2018: The Future Starts Here.

Most of the titles are readable in the full size image. Not the description of the display on the right hand side though.

 

What's against putting it on Alamy in the first place is that the exhibition happened in 2018. And secondly that there are some more images of it already available here by Guy Bell:

   

 

So my first question: should I put it online at all?

(The image has no keywords yet, it's still easy to delete.)

Second question: who would buy it? What could one illustrate with it?

Answering this one makes the next one much easier:

What keywords should I use?

Except for the obvious: Bookcase; bookcases; book case; book cases; books; who wants to live forever; the future starts here; exhibition in the V&A; Victoria and Albert Museum London.

 

wim

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by wiskerke
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[meanderingemu]

i personally would upload it, for two reasons, first all Guy Bell's image have people in it, yours not (KW Nobody and Optional Info 0 person), also image  doesn't scream exhibit, so may actually usable in a more presentation of design open library, book shop concept, flow, space - this may be an issue in our new world of distancing.  

 

in addition, you would be uploading as stock, so no "may contain imperfections" note, if that is ever important to buyer.

[John Mitchell]

I'd probably make it "for editorial use only" and might add a few more concept tags -- e.g. mortality, survival, knowledge, learning, futuristic, immortality (maybe), etc. Who would license it? I'm not very good at answering that one. 😬

Edited February 25, 2021 by John Mitchell

[Bryan]

Peripheral I admit, but I always include nobody if nobody present.

[Mr Standfast]

I think you should upload it. I would weigh any uncertainty of how it may be used against its impact and it certainly pops. 

 

KW to add: white bookshelves? White bookcase?

KW to avoid: Highlander, Queen 😉

[John Gaffen]

I would use the V&As  website  on the specific exhibition description of  The Future Starts Here, to help me provide keywords including any background information. I'm not often influenced by other photographers treatment of the same subject,   so I would definitely go ahead upload it.

[GeoffK]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Installation_art

 

Loads of kws here.

[george]

Literature

 

[Phil Robinson]

immortality; space; philosophy; philosophical; choice; afterlife:

I'd certainly upload it. If I stopped uploading all the pictures that I thought probably won't sell, I'd lose a third of my sales.

[wiskerke]

Thank you so far!

Still no idea who it would be for. Which makes keywording difficult. But you have been a great help already!

 

wim

[Allan Bell]

1 hour ago, wiskerke said:

Thank you so far!

Still no idea who it would be for. Which makes keywording difficult. But you have been a great help already!

 

wim

 

Ideas for an interior designer?

 

Allan

 

[Michael Ventura]

If it hasn't been mentioned, I would add in Self Help

[M.Chapman]

bookshelf, bookshelves, library, collection, display, book collection?

 

Mark

[Nigel Kirby]

"who wants to live forever" = 8 images

[Cal]

6 hours ago, Phil Robinson said:

immortality; space; philosophy; philosophical; choice; afterlife:

I'd certainly upload it. If I stopped uploading all the pictures that I thought probably won't sell, I'd lose a third of my sales.

 

Quite. I have an uncanny knack of selling unremarkable photos (but that illustrate a point well) usually taken on a whim when heading "on the way" to somewhere else. Indeed I think it's futile to try and put yourself in the position of thinking "who would buy this" because you can't possibly get inside the head of every prospective buyer to know the answer.

[wiskerke]

3 minutes ago, Nigel Kirby said:

"who wants to live forever" = 8 images

 

I get 6.

 

"who want to live forever" = 7

who want to live forever = 483

"to live forever" = 737

 

Searches this rolling year for %live%forever%:

live forever plant       1

Nobody lives forever 1

 

So that is not the right direction.

Maybe just interesting library?

 

wim

[wiskerke]

1 minute ago, Cal said:

 

Quite. I have an uncanny knack of selling unremarkable photos (but that illustrate a point well) usually taken on a whim when heading "on the way" to somewhere else. Indeed I think it's futile to try and put yourself in the position of thinking "who would buy this" because you can't possibly get inside the head of every prospective buyer to know the answer.

 

But it helps finding the right keywords. However as some have remarked, there are certain keywords to avoid.

 

wim

[meanderingemu]

also obviously "2018" 

[John Mitchell]

8 hours ago, Bryan said:

Peripheral I admit, but I always include nobody if nobody present.

 

Are you saying that nobody lives forever? 😎

[meanderingemu]

7 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Are you saying that nobody lives forever? 😎

 

except if they have Fame!

Edited February 25, 2021 by meanderingemu
crappy speller.

[John Mitchell]

4 minutes ago, meanderingemu said:

 

except if the have Fame!

 

Being famous forever would be a form of hell. 😮

 

Getting back on track, I would think that someone interested in this specific exhibition would be the most likely buyer. But who knows, of course.

Edited February 25, 2021 by John Mitchell

[meanderingemu]

3 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Being famous forever would be a form of hell. 😮

 

Getting back on track, I would think that someone interested in this specific exhibition would be the most likely buyer. But who knows, of course.

 

🎶Fame!  I want to live forever, i want to learn how to fly🎶 (from movie of same name).

 

 

As for buyers, i still think there is a possibility of this being used as a way forward: space between books, shelving, on presentation to future organiser.  I have been surprised a few time how random images have been used as example of way forward- or more of what to avoid. 

[wiskerke]

4 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Being famous forever would be a form of hell. 😮

 

Getting back on track, I would think that someone interested in this specific exhibition would be the most likely buyer. But who knows, of course.

 

And then you would be interested in what this exhibition was about, which was futuristic stuff. Which this isn't.

 

Now you all understand why I have been racking my brains over this one.

I did recoup my entrance ticket btw.

 

wim

 

 

 

[MizBrown]

texts for rebuilding civilization

books for rebuilding complex technology

exhibit of books for preserving  complex technology

complex civilization books

books for rebuilding the future

exhibit of books for restarting civilization

 

phrases, but who knows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bill Brooks]

medical assistance in dying, death, life expectancy, depression,  quality of life, suicide, end of life, will, power of attorney, pandemic, freedom, risk, never get old, live for today

 

Sometimes photo editors have to illustrate the above keywords but need a much softer image than a dead body. Extend keywording beyond the specific image content.

[Phil Robinson]

Remember it could be cropped to cut off the wording - without that it's a good general picture to illustrate books / literature / reading / shelves / library/ ...