Skyscraperfan Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 hours ago, David Olsen said: I think they should forget about exclusivity and go 55/45 for all. No, never below 50%. I don't understand why you want less. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Quist Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, David Olsen said: I think they should forget about exclusivity and go 55/45 for all. Contributors will never get the 55% - 50 would be fine Edited December 24, 2018 by Niels Quist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 19:57, John Mitchell said: Regardless if the credits are a mess or accurate, I would think that a buyer who has licensed an "exclusive" image through Alamy would be unhappy to find the same image available at another agency that happens to be an Alamy distribution partner. In the end, it is Alamy, not contributors, that has the power to make an image truly exclusive. Our checking a box in AIM is meaningless as far as I can see. It's not uncommon in the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giphotostock Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I feel sympathy for everybody, exclusive and non-exclusive.. Unfortunately, it does not matter to this contributor. 50% or 40% of a very small (and declining in time) amount does not make much difference. Last image shot specifically for Alamy was in 2010-2011.. Last outtake available for upload to Alamy was in 2014... There are much greener pastures out there... GI 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andremichel Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 7 hours ago, giphotostock said: There are much greener pastures out there... GI My new year's resolution is to diversify away from Alamy. Currently 68% of my net income from stock comes from Alamy, as calculated from my 2018 earnings That's way too much. I need to find these greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 12/26/2018 at 20:37, giphotostock said: I feel sympathy for everybody, exclusive and non-exclusive.. Unfortunately, it does not matter to this contributor. 50% or 40% of a very small (and declining in time) amount does not make much difference. Last image shot specifically for Alamy was in 2010-2011.. Last outtake available for upload to Alamy was in 2014... There are much greener pastures out there... GI "There are much greener pastures out there..." ..... "I need to find these greener pastures. " We all do. Let us know what you find. Perhaps you mean "other than stock photography"? I've been looking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giphotostock Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ollie said: "There are much greener pastures out there..." ..... "I need to find these greener pastures. " We all do. Let us know what you find. Perhaps you mean "other than stock photography"? I've been looking.... Not a secret. Specialize. Shoot for the market. Research. An example given 10-15 years ago on the old AlamyPro forum by Geoff Kidd (if I remember correctly): "If you are shooting in a garden, do not shoot flowers, shoot garden pests." Something like that. GI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regen Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 16 hours ago, giphotostock said: Not a secret. Specialize. Shoot for the market. Research. An example given 10-15 years ago on the old AlamyPro forum by Geoff Kidd (if I remember correctly): "If you are shooting in a garden, do not shoot flowers, shoot garden pests." Something like that. GI That was then when gardening pics made 50 dollars plus now Alamy give 5year licences,any size ,anywhere to the UK gardening press for about 8 dollars.-complete waste of time! Regen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 13 hours ago, regen said: That was then when gardening pics made 50 dollars plus now Alamy give 5year licences,any size ,anywhere to the UK gardening press for about 8 dollars.-complete waste of time! Regen I totally agree - and don't get me started on the National Newspapers selling millions of copies. I reckon that these "greener pastures" are myth. Besides, many of us have spent several years and hundreds of hours building our portfolios on Alamy. So that, combined with all the extra time and work it would take IF we could find another library to post to leaves us with few, if any options. Alamy know this and are taking advantage. So here we are today. The "exclusive" gang are all smiles, but what about the rest of us? We haven't yet reached a happy solution! Seems like many of you have lost the plot....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I'm "exclusive" but not all smiles and I bet a lot of us feel the same. I am relieved that I may be able to keep 50% but not at all happy that the most "professional" people are going to be hurt. That can't be good for Alamy and if it's not good for Alamy is it really good for us "hobbyists"? This is a pretty unhappy situation for us all I think. Paulette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/18/2018 at 11:14, amycicconi said: I was wondering the same. James mentioned being able to sell your own prints, but I'd like specific information regarding that. For example, is selling prints via a print on demand site such as Fine**ta****** allowed or not? I would like clarification on this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Paul J said: I made £4 from a photo in The Times, I typically get £90 for a live news image of the same size syndicated direct, but it was a stock image. Exclusive or not, 50% or 40%, it doesn't mean much when your getting penny sales. They need to restructure the pricing more than anything else. Yes they should start hiring photographers paying a serious salary; health insurance (does not apply to the UK yet); a good pension; paid holidays; maternity leave; in short a career. Somehow that boat has sailed. Maybe that internet thingy has something to do with it. Or the fall of the Berlin Wall? Who knows. It all happened so quickly while I looked away only briefly. Probably just checking my phone. In short: They won. We lost. It's not coming back. Let's get over it. The alternative: Photographers of the world unite and strike. Holland is going to do it on January 25: the news photographers will go on strike. That'll teach them. wim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Holland is going to do it on January 25: the news photographers will go on strike. That'll teach them. A lot of good that will do. I don't think. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hang on, who would cover the story? 'No pictures or it didn't happen!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, JeffGreenberg said: If this movement gains gravitas, I'd consider blocking my Jan 25 licensing in support. How to do? Batch change on Jan 24 to turn off on Jan 25 system refresh. Then batch change again Jan 25 to turn on with Jan 26 refresh. But Jan 25 = Friday, may have to support on Jan 24 to avoid entire weekend turn-off...? You’ve lost me again Jeff! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brooks Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/23/2018 at 20:39, KevinS said: Exclusivity is losing it's meaning if over 80 agencies have the image. I hope there is a clear definition in the new contract as to the Alamy meaning of "exclusive to Alamy", or "only available at Alamy". What kind of exclusivity are we granting? For instance if I copy a well known, out of copyright historic painting, and upload the digital file to Alamy, can my particular upload be exclusive to Alamy when other legitimate copies by other photographers are at other stock photo agencies? How about taking identical peak action images with a crowd of photographers all uploading to different agencies? I have been in photographer crowds when shutters sounded like machine gun fire. This shot for instance from a crowd of about 60 professional photographers there to photograph a called off surfing competition because of too high waves. The conversation between machine gunning waves was all round which stock agencies were the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Avpics said: Hang on, who would cover the story? 'No pictures or it didn't happen!' Maybe the video people don't strike. Or the phone people. Now if those would strike.. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotosiong Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Anyone knows do we enjoy better ranking for images for going exclusive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 hours ago, fotosiong said: Anyone knows do we enjoy better ranking for images for going exclusive? The terms of the exclusivity haven’t been released yet. We should all be getting an email about this in due course. No one here knows better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 02/01/2019 at 18:32, Avpics said: Hang on, who would cover the story? 'No pictures or it didn't happen!' Maybe it doesn't include selfies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 We've made some changes The Alamy contract has been updated and we're writing to give you notice of these changes. The new contract is here and the key changes are listed here. The changes will come into place on 21st February 2019. We don't need anything from you but we recommend you keep a copy of the contract for your records once you've read it through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Thanks for this. I did it much more awkwardly in the thread Commission Change announced in email. Perhaps we should all try to stay on this thread. I did email Alamy about Fine Art America and will let you know what they said. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHP Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, NYCat said: Thanks for this. I did it much more awkwardly in the thread Commission Change announced in email. Perhaps we should all try to stay on this thread. I did email Alamy about Fine Art America and will let you know what they said. Paulette The way I read it, the definition of "exclusive" excludes images on the contributors own website or prints sales. Images on FAA for print sales but not licensing should be OK. Clarence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, CHP said: The way I read it, the definition of "exclusive" excludes images on the contributors own website or prints sales. Images on FAA for print sales but not licensing should be OK. Clarence I agree but I emailed them just to be absolutely certain. Paulette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydingo Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, CHP said: The way I read it, the definition of "exclusive" excludes images on the contributors own website or prints sales. Images on FAA for print sales but not licensing should be OK. Clarence I agree. that's certainly how I interpret it . . . well, that's what it says after all . . . although I have asked Alamy to verify that interpretation, just in case EDIT: oops, I should have added NYCat's post above to my response . . . sorry Paulette DD Edited January 7, 2019 by dustydingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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