BobD Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I have just been doing a couple of searches and it seems like the diversification logarithm has gone to pot. Searches now seem to be showing images obviously from the same photographer / shoot all bunched together rather than spread throughout the results. I would have thought that this makes life a lot harder for the customer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Myford Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I may be completely wrong, but I have the feeling that the "re-rank" was Alamy dropping back to a previous version of software. There seems to have been several instances of different old behaviours since then, so perhaps there was an incident that forced them to revert the system. But that is just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, BobD said: I have just been doing a couple of searches and it seems like the diversification logarithm has gone to pot. Searches now seem to be showing images obviously from the same photographer / shoot all bunched together rather than spread throughout the results. I would have thought that this makes life a lot harder for the customer. I've noticed this happens at the end of the search results if the same photographer has A LOT of pictures in the specific search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Ognyan Yosifov said: I've noticed this happens at the end of the search results if the same photographer has A LOT of pictures in the specific search. Yes that was always the case but now it is happening throughout the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 13 hours ago, BobD said: Yes that was always the case but now it is happening throughout the results. My test search shows the same 19 image spacing between my images as usual. Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 hours ago, M.Chapman said: My test search shows the same 19 image spacing between my images as usual. Mark I never noticed that. I just checked and it is true for mine too... at least for a subject I have a lot of. Nice if I come up early because many images will be on the first page. Thanks for mentioning it. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) As an example a search for 'Tavira Portugal' the first 4 images are from 3 contributors. Then from image 5 to image 36 are all from the same photographer. After that the next 26 images are all from the same but different photographer. A search for 'Madrid Spain' shows similar results. Hardly a diverse and spaced out search. Edited June 2, 2022 by BobD updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 If fact a search for 'Madrid Spain' is totally ridiculous, the first 6 pages are taken up by mainly model shoots. 'Paris France' shows a first page of all tennis related images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, BobD said: If fact a search for 'Madrid Spain' is totally ridiculous, the first 6 pages are taken up by mainly model shoots. 'Paris France' shows a first page of all tennis related images. Bob, I think you have the 'New' filter selected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 OOPS!, I don't know how that happened, I don't select a filter.☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BobD said: OOPS!, I don't know how that happened, I don't select a filter.☺️ It's a sort of a tab. Just under where you have typed your search term are the words New Creative Relevant You can click on either. Next to those are the other filters, each with a menu: People Location Image Viewpoint Date taken Advanced search wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Ore Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, BobD said: If fact a search for 'Madrid Spain' is totally ridiculous, the first 6 pages are taken up by mainly model shoots. 'Paris France' shows a first page of all tennis related images. Madrid Spain for me (coming from a Nicaraguan IP address) shows architectural photos. Same for Paris France (no commas in the searches). No model released shots on the first page. IP sensitive? Country sensitive? Or some random rotations? Or filtering for new? (I didn't pick a filter, either). Edited June 2, 2022 by Rebecca Ore more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodvandigtid Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Odd looking today - all my views (288) have no zooms but there are no total zooms either. Anybody see any total zooms in their update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broad Norfolk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Nodvandigtid said: Odd looking today - all my views (288) have no zooms but there are no total zooms either. Anybody see any total zooms in their update? As an observation, I had my first zoom this morning since the middle of last week. This is quite unusual for me to go that long with a nil zoom return. I do have zooms in the total column but they appear very spasmodic being a mixture of zeros higher numbers. It seems to be quite inconsistent since the 're-rank'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodvandigtid Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 14/06/2022 at 12:16, Nodvandigtid said: Odd looking today - all my views (288) have no zooms but there are no total zooms either. Anybody see any total zooms in their update? Back to "normal" today - total zooms showing - it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broad Norfolk Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Today my main pseudo is all zeros in both zoom columns. This is now affecting my CTR and views are also dropping significantly. To me this is now more than an observation. Something is just not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeRay Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Broad Norfolk said: Today my main pseudo is all zeros in both zoom columns. This is now affecting my CTR and views are also dropping significantly. To me this is now more than an observation. Something is just not right. Same here bar one or two exceptions. Edited June 16, 2022 by ReeRay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 All zeros for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 06:41, BobD said: If fact a search for 'Madrid Spain' is totally ridiculous, the first 6 pages are taken up by mainly model shoots. 'Paris France' shows a first page of all tennis related images. i know this was resolved as having the "New" tab, and all the image being from Live News, but this shows how Alamy lets the News Agency do whatever they want in the LN upload, and in total impunity. Like the current Madrid Spain, starts with 39 image of the same model, in maybe 2/3 poses..... and on and on...... so much for Make a tight edit.a. Previsualise your shoot so you know the ultimate set of images you want to send.b. Make sure you have a nice variety of overall (wide shots that tell the story), action,reaction and details all in a combination of uprights and landscapes.c. Make sure each picture is unique. DONOT SEND DUPLICATE OR SIMILAR FRAMES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Ore Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: Like the current Madrid Spain, starts with 39 image of the same model, in maybe 2/3 poses..... and on and on...... And I just searched with defaults and got all architectural for Madrid Spain. Selecting "New" gets the results you got. Edited June 16, 2022 by Rebecca Ore more information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rebecca Ore said: And I just searched with defaults and got all architectural for Madrid Spain. Selecting "New" gets the results you got. how does that make the spamming OK, when Alamy's guidelines clearly states it isn't If i was a buyer and this is what i faced, i wouldn't start trying other tabs, i would go elsewhere..... Edited June 16, 2022 by meanderingemu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca Ore Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: how does that make the spamming OK, when Alamy's guidelines clearly states it isn't If i was a buyer and this is what i faced, i wouldn't start trying other tabs, i would go elsewhere..... I suspect agencies get different rules, but yeah, it's flooding results for searches for new photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Broad Norfolk said: Today my main pseudo is all zeros in both zoom columns. This is now affecting my CTR and views are also dropping significantly. To me this is now more than an observation. Something is just not right. Today I have 2 zooms and also rather less than normal views. The total number of searches resulting in any zooms is markedly down on the "norm". The last few days have also been intermittently reduced. I am certain Measures is not working properly again. Hopefully ALAMY can sort this out please? Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I don't know about Measures, but something behind the scenes has definitely changed for me. My sales numbers have fallen over 50% during the past two months after being consistent for several years. I'm hoping it's just a temporary blip, but... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, John Mitchell said: I don't know about Measures, but something behind the scenes has definitely changed for me. My sales numbers have fallen over 50% during the past two months after being consistent for several years. I'm hoping it's just a temporary blip, but... John - how did the recent change in ranking affect you? (Not that that would be expected to affect sales yet...) Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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