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arterra    3,756
2 minutes ago, LawrensonPhoto said:

What happened to the other 1% :D

 

Hey, I have my weak moments too :lol:

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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Marb    19

I have loads of brick varied background images, some grungy and some painted etc but they are microstock. Any image can be used for any article. It just depends what they want. Someone wants a pic of an, rusty old boiler for instance ?

an-old-brick-cobbled-road-surface-G2AA1T

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arterra    3,756

Too illustrate WHAT??????

For any article? Such as?

 

I give up :( Have better things to do.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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Ok, maybe if you clearly captioned the image with location details, type of brick, historic significance, etc. but you haven't?

Anyway im off

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geogphotos    195
19 minutes ago, Marb said:

I have loads of brick varied background images, some grungy and some painted etc but they are microstock. Any image can be used for any article. It just depends what they want. Someone wants a pic of an, rusty old boiler for instance ?

an-old-brick-cobbled-road-surface-G2AA1T

 

Could illustrate:

plant succession - pioneer species such as mosses - soil formation - biotic weathering

physical/mechanical weathering from the weather - heating, cooling, freeze/thaw

bricklaying techniques

building materials in different localities

percolation of water through joints and bedding planes ( as if this was a sedimentary rock) - identify and explain the main channels of flow and dead-ends ( like a maze)

different colour bricks from different coloured clay

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arterra    3,756

Not an itsy-bitsy far-fetched? ;)

Anyway, doesn't look very representative for the uses you mentioned. Just my two cents.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

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Marb    19
54 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

 

Could illustrate:

plant succession - pioneer species such as mosses - soil formation - biotic weathering

physical/mechanical weathering from the weather - heating, cooling, freeze/thaw

bricklaying techniques

building materials in different localities

percolation of water through joints and bedding planes ( as if this was a sedimentary rock) - identify and explain the main channels of flow and dead-ends ( like a maze)

different colour bricks from different coloured clay

Thanks, at last someone who sees it from my perspective. Again, I do know about the concept of editorial. We just didn't have to deal with keywords when I was at college using medium format film cameras.

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Marb    19
4 hours ago, arterra said:

 

Marb, we're trying to help you and explaining WHY you don't sell but you're stone-deaf and utterly stubborn. Believe me, you don't have a clue what editorial pictures look like.

For 99% of my pictures I can tell you IMMEDIATELY which customers could buy my pictures and for what purpose (see my post of the mushroom above). And I can do the same for Paul's "damp brick wall" image:

  • DIY brochures
  • DIY magazines 
  • articles about how to control damp walls
  • websites for water damage specialists
  • brochures and websites for manufacturers of mould removing / preventing products
  • need I continue?

Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that :mellow:

 

Cheers and good luck,

Philippe

With all respect the reason you sell more images than myself is because you have a LOT more than I do. About 45 x more. Please don't patronise me as if you are the great oracle on Photography.  

 

"Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that"

 

Vintage steam engine articles

Articles on restoration

Articles on rust

Articles on abandoned industrial buildings

etc..etc..etc.... 

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spacecadet    1,386

Philippe is talking about RPI, not just volume, as you well know. Maybe not "the great", but certainly "an" oracle. It would help you to appreciate the difference between good advice, with examples, and patronisation.

Advice is given freely here, not least by Philippe. It's up to you if you take it, of course. But to have it apparently ignored is not encouraging to the giver .

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JeffGreenberg    358
 
> certainly "an" oracle.
 
or·a·cle
ˈôrək(ə)l/
noun
2. a response or message given...typically one that is ambiguous or obscure.
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GS-Images    1,183

Yet another time when I need the PM facility back.(and it would be a POSITIVE private message, by the way).

 

What I will say to Marb is that I don't agree with everything that's been posted by others. I may have been frustrated that you kept praising Microstock in the past and didn't seem to take much notice of many comments regarding being exclusive with Alamy, but I think you are listening now and are taking advice. What's more, you're polite about your point of view, which not everyone is.

 

As for what sells, what's editorial and what isn't, I'm never honestly sure. Without meaning any disrespect to anyone else, I have been here since 2010 and I do have some idea what I'm doing, yet I have seen so many varied sales. It is more about keywording and captioning than the photo.

 

One point about the number of images - Until the search engine changes, the monthly "how was your month" threads showed that I used to license a higher quantity on images per number of images than all but about one other. That went on for many months. That's without really being sure what type of image is best for editorial. It is with good keywording though and keeping up to date on what's topical.

 

Geoff.

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Marb    19
1 hour ago, GS-Images said:

Yet another time when I need the PM facility back.(and it would be a POSITIVE private message, by the way).

 

What I will say to Marb is that I don't agree with everything that's been posted by others. I may have been frustrated that you kept praising Microstock in the past and didn't seem to take much notice of many comments regarding being exclusive with Alamy, but I think you are listening now and are taking advice. What's more, you're polite about your point of view, which not everyone is.

 

As for what sells, what's editorial and what isn't, I'm never honestly sure. Without meaning any disrespect to anyone else, I have been here since 2010 and I do have some idea what I'm doing, yet I have seen so many varied sales. It is more about keywording and captioning than the photo.

 

One point about the number of images - Until the search engine changes, the monthly "how was your month" threads showed that I used to license a higher quantity on images per number of images than all but about one other. That went on for many months. That's without really being sure what type of image is best for editorial. It is with good keywording though and keeping up to date on what's topical.

 

Geoff.

Thanks Geoff, I was starting to doubt myself but sadly all too often  forums or  "communities" tend to have cliques of people who seem to offer "help" or "advice" delivered with a sardonic, facetious and sometimes downright rude tone applauded by each other.

 

Anyway, I now fully understand the way Alamy works so thanks to all for clarifying that. Like you said Geoff, I think captioning and keywording (with good images of course) are the key.

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spacecadet    1,386
5 minutes ago, Marb said:

 all too often  forums or  "communities" tend to have cliques of people who seem to offer "help" or "advice" delivered with a sardonic, facetious and sometimes downright rude tone applauded by each other.

 

 

This is not one of those, as a more diffident approach would have confirmed.

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M.Chapman    519

Hi Marb,

 

Just my two cents worth....

 

an-old-abandoned-steam-boiler-in-timber-

If someone wanted an image for the following (your suggestions) 

 

Vintage steam engine articles

Articles on restoration

Articles on rust

Articles on abandoned industrial buildings

etc..etc..etc..

 

Why would they want a black and white image "HDR styled" image? Wouldn't they be looking for a more "factual" image that illustrated any of those more effectively? It could however perhaps sell for an article in a photo magazine about black and white or HDR processing? Suggest deleting keywords like rivet, rivets, wheel, dial, dials, brick, pump from this image to reduce false hits which will damage your ranking. I like the image, but it's more "arty" than editorial. That's not to say it won't sell on Alamy, it's just that the chances are much, much lower. I've got quite a few "arty" images on Alamy myself, but in general they are a waste of time (I'm still learning). So I'm now trying to sell those elsewhere.

 

This on the other hand has recently sold on Alamy, to illustrate rust and corrosion in an educational book.

 

large-ruddy-brown-rusty-cast-iron-corrod

 

Mark

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Marb    19
13 hours ago, M.Chapman said:

Hi Marb,

 

Just my two cents worth....

 

an-old-abandoned-steam-boiler-in-timber-

If someone wanted an image for the following (your suggestions) 

 

Vintage steam engine articles

Articles on restoration

Articles on rust

Articles on abandoned industrial buildings

etc..etc..etc..

 

Why would they want a black and white image "HDR styled" image? Wouldn't they be looking for a more "factual" image that illustrated any of those more effectively? It could however perhaps sell for an article in a photo magazine about black and white or HDR processing? Suggest deleting keywords like rivet, rivets, wheel, dial, dials, brick, pump from this image to reduce false hits which will damage your ranking. I like the image, but it's more "arty" than editorial. That's not to say it won't sell on Alamy, it's just that the chances are much, much lower. I've got quite a few "arty" images on Alamy myself, but in general they are a waste of time (I'm still learning). So I'm now trying to sell those elsewhere.

 

This on the other hand has recently sold on Alamy, to illustrate rust and corrosion in an educational book.

 

large-ruddy-brown-rusty-cast-iron-corrod

 

Mark

Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. I can see I accidently copied those inappropriate keywords from another similar image so I will address that now. Cheers.

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