Marb Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, kay said: Model releases aren't needed for editorial Yes I appreciate that. How do you find editorial sales in general Kay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 About a third of my licences have people in them, but they're usually incidental. Only about 10-15% are of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 That's encouraging somewhat. Thanks Kay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 People will often add a context. One of the most frequently used style of editorial images I've seen published is of a single person walking past a shop or business, when said shop or business is the subject of the piece. It's often a long exposure to make the person unidentifiable, or from the rear three quarters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southmind Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Thank you for sharing your sales contexts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Marb said: I don't understand the fallacy that people images sell because buyers are not always looking for people in their images. Thanks for pointing out the error of my ways... The 7,000 image sales I've made here (the vast majority of which do contain people) must obviously be a fluke or beginners luck. I certainly won't be making that mistake again km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedSnapper said: Thanks for pointing out the error of my ways... The 7,000 image sales I've made here (the vast majority of which do contain people) must obviously be a fluke or beginners luck. I certainly won't be making that mistake again km Sorry to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Avpics said: People will often add a context. One of the most frequently used style of editorial images I've seen published is of a single person walking past a shop or business, when said shop or business is the subject of the piece. It's often a long exposure to make the person unidentifiable, or from the rear three quarters indeed.... as in this one of mine:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jessica-investigates/call-halifax-scam/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, RedSnapper said: Thanks for pointing out the error of my ways... The 7,000 image sales I've made here (the vast majority of which do contain people) must obviously be a fluke or beginners luck. I certainly won't be making that mistake again km I once got a great big b*****ing from an agency because my pics didn't have any people in them. Press photography is all about people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 53 minutes ago, RedSnapper said: indeed.... as in this one of mine:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jessica-investigates/call-halifax-scam/ Great shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, RedSnapper said: indeed.... as in this one of mine:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jessica-investigates/call-halifax-scam/ I have one of those too but with no people. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/pubs-and-bars/the-board-inn-east-yorkshire-pub-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Well, a little magic showed up today with three low-priced sales. Still time for a couple more to slip under the door... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 8 hours ago, RedSnapper said: indeed.... as in this one of mine:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/jessica-investigates/call-halifax-scam/ Perfect example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarsierspectral Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I just had three drop in, one over $150 making this month the best of 2017 so far, both $$ wise and # wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I also thought that sales at Alamy (when they do happen) were meant to be good money. All mine have been around a tenner on average. Microstock would earn far more over time on any single image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Concentrate on micro stock then instead of spending all your time moaning and feeling hard done by. Life is too short But can you answer my question as to why Alamy have reduced their fees ? It’s only fair to point out the low figues for sales and to be fair, other people have mentioned it of late too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSnapper Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Marb said: I also thought that sales at Alamy (when they do happen) were meant to be good money. It doesn't take much effort to find some real world figures....every month there are reports of images numbers sold / total fees received Do some maths and work it out. Rule #1 of any business: do the market research, rather then just "thinking" things should be a certain way oh, and sales do happen, 32, in fact, just today..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Quote Thanks for the red arrow. I suppose that the truth hurts. I gave you the red arrow, nothing personal just that I don't think your statement was accurate. I'll explain why. Although microstock is a contributing factor to lower prices on Alamy (and globally), it's not the only factor. As you know, Alamy's collection is over 100million. We are also competing against each other on here and there's a finite number of buyers. Jury is still out on whether Alamy buyers search on microstock for duplicated images. Intuitively it makes sense but i want to see hard evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Brasilnut said: I gave you the red arrow, nothing personal Extraordinary. Are you aware that valued members of this forum have been driven to leave by misuse of the red arrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Quote Extraordinary. Are you aware that valued members of this forum have been driven to leave by misuse of the red arrows? I don't misuse the red arrow or hide behind it, I came forward and announced it after the fact. A bold move, I suppose. How is it my fault if someone chooses to react that way by leaving? Are we in kindergarten? What's the point of having this option if we cannot exercise it if and when we feel that someone has said something inaccurate. It's a bit like that Black Mirror episode, 'Nosedive' about social validation where people get a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Yates Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Brasilnut said: I gave you the red arrow, nothing personal just that I don't think your statement was accurate. I'll explain why. Although microstock is a contributing factor to lower prices on Alamy (and globally), it's not the only factor. As you know, Alamy's collection is over 100million. We are also competing against each other on here and there's a finite number of buyers. Jury is still out on whether Alamy buyers search on microstock for duplicated images. Intuitively it makes sense but i want to see hard evidence. A red arrow would certainly be deemed personal and immature, You could have just responded without using the red arrow in the first place. You and your micro cronies have brought a negative slant to the forum. You can give me a red if you want!!. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Brasilnut said: I don't misuse the red arrow or hide behind it, I came forward and announced it after the fact. A bold move, I suppose. How is it my fault if someone chooses to react that way by leaving? Are we in kindergarten? What's the point of having this option if we cannot exercise it if and when we feel that someone has said something inaccurate. It's a bit like that Black Mirror episode, 'Nosedive' about social validation where people get a score. If you think someone has said something inaccurate, say so, as I will do now in pointing out that I didn't say anything was your "fault". There's a good deal of reserve here about the arrow system which you as a newcomer obviously don't share. But you are now at least aware of it, if you weren't before. Speaking of reserve, formerly I would have sent a PM about this but they are no longer available so it has to be public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Quote There's a good deal of reserve here about the arrow system which you as a latecomer obviously don't share. But you are now at least aware of it, if you weren't before. Ok, I've removed it Honestly, if someone gave me red arrows I wouldn't care but each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brasilnut said: Honestly, if someone gave me red arrows I wouldn't care but each to their own. You get a green one from me for that. As far as I'm concerned the green arrows are the equivalent of Hear hear! Maybe we should now use the heart for that. Why should the reds bear so much more weight than the red ones? Btw what is the correct opposite of hear hear? What was it again what this thread was about? Ah slow month: Yes very slow month. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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