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5 hours ago, GS-Images said:

It's even more disheartening when many of my news photos that I put online before anyone else that day are not used, but others that appear hours later that are blurred and clearly taken with a phone are used! I don't blame Alamy for that of course, that's the editors who don't have a clue what a decent photo is.

 

Geoff.

 

I guess there are probably certain times of day when it's better to upload certain news images than other times... certainly for images like weather related images. Your pictures will always get pushed further down the Live News Feed as newer images are uploaded and I'm afraid 'least path of resistance' is just human nature so people will look at and pick from the top images first. So Ideally, I guess you want to time submission of images to coincide with when picture editors are about to start looking for images for a lunchtime edition, an article uploaded online midday and an evening edition of their publications.

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Well I have been patiently uploading exclusive images here for some time and have to say zero sales from any of them. The only sales I have ironically are ones available on other sites.

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2 hours ago, GS-Images said:

 

No offence, but haven't we been around in circles about this several times now? You have, if I remember correctly, only just started uploading exclusively to Alamy, and used to use Microstock too for the same images. You need to wait MONTHS.

 

Anyway, as for myself - I still have ZERO sales for June. I am aware of news sales but they are not showing up yet, and that's expected and not a problem, but in nearly a whole month it is unheard of for me to get zero these days. All my extra work lately doing Alamy 24/7 and still ending up with lower view numbers that I had before the new search engine messed everything up, is making me feel quite demotivated again. I just hope that this is the expected dip due to the search engine issues, and that usages have been happening in the last 2 months that will soon start to show up on my account.

 

Geoff.

 

Well Geoff your images are very marketable so not sure why they are not selling. 

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Well, i had zero sales in June but it's my fault actually.

I noticed many times an image being viewed on alamy and bought on Getty for cents in the same day :)

need to be smarter on which images where

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1 sale on the first so I got excited it was going to be a good month, but no sales since then.

 

Historically, August is my 5th best month in terms of sales. So i'm expecting about 12 to 15 sales this month.

 

John.

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Just now, arterra said:

 

What do you expect if you keep uploading typical microstock stuff to an editorial agency. You've been given advice, why not following it instead of keep moaning.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

I think you will find the new uploading has been exclusive to Alamy, and not the usual microstock stuff I upload to other sites.

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1 hour ago, arterra said:

 

You mean those?

 

A children's handmade paper balloon. - Stock Image   Handmade paper globe showing Africa. - Stock Image   Abandoned Barn - Stock Image

Detail of illuminated arrow on a amusement ride. - Stock Image   An old back yard garden with stone steps. - Stock Image   Servant's bells in a large old house. - Stock Image

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

1 hour ago, arterra said:

 

You mean those?

 

A children's handmade paper balloon. - Stock Image   Handmade paper globe showing Africa. - Stock Image   Abandoned Barn - Stock Image

Detail of illuminated arrow on a amusement ride. - Stock Image   An old back yard garden with stone steps. - Stock Image   Servant's bells in a large old house. - Stock Image

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

1 hour ago, arterra said:

 

What do you expect if you keep uploading typical microstock stuff to an editorial agency. You've been given advice, why not following it instead of keep moaning.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

I think you will find the new uploading has been exclusive to Alamy, and not the usual microstock stuff I upload to other sites.

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3 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

 

Maybe if your picture had included the child making the paper balloon.?????

 

 

Craig

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26 minutes ago, JeffGreenberg said:

Here's an inspirational suggestion!!!

Rather than personally attack others' work,

why not find examples in their work that stand out as... :wub: :wub: :wub: 

ESPECIALLY SALABLE???!!!!! 

I agree Jeff. 30 years ago I was a HND photo student and covered editorial, particularly environmental portraiture  so I do understand editorial and if you look around you will find that. From the examples of mine he has pulled out (the lesser examples of editorial) I was just pointing out that his images of eg,, a plate fungus, a common sparrow, rock texture, a morehen etc etc are no more editorial and more suited to microstock. It's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. I have taken on board the advice regarding editorial images and have since only uploaded those type.

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36 minutes ago, arterra said:

 

Marb, with all respect, but I have the feeling you haven't got the slightest idea what "editorial" means :mellow:

  • determination guide book about mushrooms
  • article about edible mushrooms
  • whatever article about walking in the woods in autumn
  • children magazines / websites about autumn / forests / trees
  • garden magazines
  • brochures / information panels in nature reserves
  • school books
  • need I continue?

Anyway Marb, don't want to be rude, but my kind of pictures sell daily. Yours don't. So, no need to teach me a lesson.

 

Cheers,

Philippe

 

 

Well yes, you will be selling more images here with 45K +

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2 hours ago, LawrensonPhoto said:

I think he needs more of these:

ashford-kent-uk-22nd-june-2017-uk-weathe

and less of these:

an-old-abandoned-steam-boiler-in-timber-

Why would the B/W image not be saleable ? 

 

Industrial

Vintage

Historic

 

I could say the same for an image as generic as this for instance

 

English brickwork in a poor state of disrepair crack algae lichen damp uk Stock Photo

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I feel I am being baited a little here and unfairly treated (as well as negatives left against my profile and posts) as clearly contributors are using examples of my work to illustrate what apparently isn't editorial,when they are as guilty of the same offence. I have already said that I have taken on board (and very grateful for the advice too) the fact that this site is mainly editorial. 

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I have loads of brick varied background images, some grungy and some painted etc but they are microstock. Any image can be used for any article. It just depends what they want. Someone wants a pic of an, rusty old boiler for instance ?

an-old-brick-cobbled-road-surface-G2AA1T

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54 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

 

Could illustrate:

plant succession - pioneer species such as mosses - soil formation - biotic weathering

physical/mechanical weathering from the weather - heating, cooling, freeze/thaw

bricklaying techniques

building materials in different localities

percolation of water through joints and bedding planes ( as if this was a sedimentary rock) - identify and explain the main channels of flow and dead-ends ( like a maze)

different colour bricks from different coloured clay

Thanks, at last someone who sees it from my perspective. Again, I do know about the concept of editorial. We just didn't have to deal with keywords when I was at college using medium format film cameras.

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4 hours ago, arterra said:

 

Marb, we're trying to help you and explaining WHY you don't sell but you're stone-deaf and utterly stubborn. Believe me, you don't have a clue what editorial pictures look like.

For 99% of my pictures I can tell you IMMEDIATELY which customers could buy my pictures and for what purpose (see my post of the mushroom above). And I can do the same for Paul's "damp brick wall" image:

  • DIY brochures
  • DIY magazines 
  • articles about how to control damp walls
  • websites for water damage specialists
  • brochures and websites for manufacturers of mould removing / preventing products
  • need I continue?

Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that :mellow:

 

Cheers and good luck,

Philippe

With all respect the reason you sell more images than myself is because you have a LOT more than I do. About 45 x more. Please don't patronise me as if you are the great oracle on Photography.  

 

"Now why don't you try to do the same with the typical microstock examples I showed you? And "vintage", "historical" "industrial" aren't exactly what I would call "clients". You have to come up with better answers than that"

 

Vintage steam engine articles

Articles on restoration

Articles on rust

Articles on abandoned industrial buildings

etc..etc..etc.... 

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Philippe is talking about RPI, not just volume, as you well know. Maybe not "the great", but certainly "an" oracle. It would help you to appreciate the difference between good advice, with examples, and patronisation.

Advice is given freely here, not least by Philippe. It's up to you if you take it, of course. But to have it apparently ignored is not encouraging to the giver .

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