Doc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hi all, Our monthly competition is for up to 3 images per member to be submitted for the selection of the eventual winner. We state that the images have to be on sale on Alamy, but some of you may have read the discussion in the November competition about whether those Alamy images can be re-edited and then submitted for the competition if the photographer is in some way unhappy with the original image on sale. What do we all think? Thanks for your opinion! Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Hi all, Our monthly competition is for up to 3 images per member to be submitted for the selection of the eventual winner. We state that the images have to be on sale on Alamy, but some of you may have read the discussion in the November competition about whether those Alamy images can be re-edited and then submitted for the competition if the photographer is in some way unhappy with the original image on sale. What do we all think? Thanks for your opinion! Kumar I think that the idea behind these "contests" is to have some fun. Why does it have to be discussed and get complicated? It is what it is, right? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I think they should be as they are if a buyer downloads the image. If the horizon bothers Jeff then he should re-work the photo and re-upload it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If the picture submitted to the selector is availed for sale I don't have a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Surely it is easy to re-edit and then submit to Alamy before putting it in the challenge. I say, 'Let's have fun'. Ok with me for a new edit to be entered. I hadn't understood Jeff's question because I didn't know that version was not available on Alamy. Because I like to use the challenge as a showcase for my work I would be making sure it was for sale before submitting it. I tend to balk at laws. Freedom for all, I say. Paulette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I agree that the monthly challenges are strictly for fun. I'm not really interested in "competing" with anyone (life's too short). It's always great to see other people's work. I didn't follow the conversation, but the requirement that submitted images should currently be available on Alamy sounds reasonable to me. We could make a rule that once an image is submitted, it can't be replaced, just withdrawn from the challenge. That would be OK with me, but perhaps it's a bit draconian for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I've deleted, I agree if rules state "as is" in collection; impending trip no time to resubmit now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) In my opinion, providing an image is on Alamy, it should be alright to alter our choice of entries submitted, re-edited or not. I have 3 800+ images for the water theme. If I was inclined, which I'm not, I could search deeper in my portfolio and perhaps find a preferred pic. Sometimes memory kicks in and I wish I had chosen a different one. I'm all in favour of keeping rules simple, as others have said, it's all a bit of fun. In a group on social media, I have been critized for participating in the competition for the monthly banner. 'It's not fair, she does it for a living' some said. A living!! I would be starving. As a result, admin kicked out some members. Such shenanigans for what is supposed to be a bit of fun. For a banner... So trivial... Let's stick to the fun! Edited November 15, 2023 by gvallee Shenanigans has only one n... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Edited 33 minutes ago by gvallee Shenanigans has only one n... well then I've finally bloody gone troppo and mad as a cut snake 3 is what I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 In the early days it wasn't even a requirement that the images should be on Alamy. The original idea was that it was an informal competition for contributors to submit their best pictures. IIRC after a few months one competition-setter decided on the "on Alamy" rule and everyone followed suit thereafter. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Image needs to be on sale with Alamy, no problem with someone editing and re-uploading, it's just for fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 This discussion reminds me why I don't really get involved in fun competitions😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Having been going through the process of searching through old drives to find new and/or improve images to make available for licencing I'd reached 2017 when the bike challenge popped up. Purely by coincidence the image that was chosen for voting was one such image that I'd plucked out for improving of the editing, so it made sense to offer the better image. I don't know whether that has anything to do with any comments but thought it worth a mention. I'd say that anything uploaded by the closing date is good to go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 The image should be the best uploaded to Alamy and not need improvement. Simples. If the uploaded image was not the best why was it uploaded in the first place. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: The image should be the best uploaded to Alamy and not need improvement. Skills and software improve over time, plus increased knowledge of subjects and awareness of the need for copy space etc. It's been a very steep learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, geogphotos said: This discussion reminds me why I don't really get involved in fun competitions😀 Fun ain't what it used to be. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Our monthly challenge is a fun and friendly competition and like any competition, there has to be a baseline of some rules. I don’t think we have too many, just enough to have some rails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) By restricting entries to only those available on Alamy it gives all contributors an opportunity to enter without the need to have their own separate website or other means of uploading images. There are plenty of alternative opportunities for folk to enter photo competitions, let's keep this one simple and readily accessible. Edited November 16, 2023 by Bryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 hours ago, Avpics said: Skills and software improve over time, plus increased knowledge of subjects and awareness of the need for copy space etc. It's been a very steep learning curve. OK! I will rephrase my comment above. Original :- If the uploaded image was not the best why was it uploaded in the first place. New :- If the image was not the best that existing conditions would allow at the time of upload why was it uploaded. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) . Edited November 16, 2023 by Mr Standfast Talking rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: OK! I will rephrase my comment above. Original :- If the uploaded image was not the best why was it uploaded in the first place. New :- If the image was not the best that existing conditions would allow at the time of upload why was it uploaded. Allan Oh, Allan. When I look into my past at all the decisions I have made there are some I would change. Wisdom comes with age (or possibly never). Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NYCat said: Oh, Allan. When I look into my past at all the decisions I have made there are some I would change. Wisdom comes with age (or possibly never). Paulette Hi Paulette, I am not saying we should not make changes to images uploaded in the past. I have done that myself. What I am saying is that we really should not be changing images specifically for the members competition. Oh this is getting out of hand. I'm ending my input on this subject now. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: Hi Paulette, I am not saying we should not make changes to images uploaded in the past. I have done that myself. What I am saying is that we really should not be changing images specifically for the members competition. Oh this is getting out of hand. I'm ending my input on this subject now. Allan This is how I see it too. I have gone back and re-worked older images with new software and then uploaded those and then request deletion of the older version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 Hi all, Thank you all for your contributions to the discussion! From your suggestions, I think the status quo is the favoured option. Obviously anyone can re-work an Alamy image that could be improved, and re-upload/submit it, but for the purpose of simplicity for the competition perhaps we should stick with the rule that an image has to be on sale as is, to be entered into the competition. Best Kumar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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