lisah2006 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Keywording is so time-consuming and I keep running out of ideas of what to tag photos as. I don't have a question. I'm just complaining. ha! Seriously....it's not that bad, but some days I zone out doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 This is absolutely true, but good keywording is just as important as being able to take and process a good picture. At least you are not making the mistake of trying to fill every one of the fifty available keyword slots and falling into the realms of irrelevancy in doing so. Perseverance and relevance will bring rewards in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 You need to get into the mindset that keywording is fun. I quite enjoy the research involved, and trying to get one over the competition by finding more relevant facts that may help flog the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchiquin Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I hate keywording too. But if I go out to shoot photographs, and take into account the time to get there and back, the time spent walking around, finding the right locations and angles, and the time to process them all afterwards and get them up on Alamy, then keywording is probably the least time-consuming part of the process, especially as many of the pics will share a good number of keywords. And then I can always go back and improve the keywording later, with minimal effort compared to re-shooting, even if that's possible. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out with a rusty screwdriver and fry them in a pound of lard than keyword images, but it's something which has to be done. Ugggggh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 15 hours ago, lisah2006 said: Keywording is so time-consuming and I keep running out of ideas of what to tag photos as. Hmmmm, if you don't know what to tag photos as, maybe there isn't a clear subject or concept in the photo, as all you need to do is keyword what's in the photos. Might I humbly suggest that you have some very similar images in your port, and if you were trying to distinguish between them by caption or keywords, you would indeed have problems. If you use a keyword suggestion tool, make sure you carefully go through the suggestions and delete those which are irrelevant to your image. Many people don't do that, so end up with lots of irrelevant keywords. NOT criticising David above, I haven't looked at his keywording. But in many cases when people have irrelevant keywords, they remonstrate, "Oh, but I used X keyword tool" (sadly, without engaging brain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsphinx Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Bryan said: You need to get into the mindset that keywording is fun. I quite enjoy the research involved, and trying to get one over the competition by finding more relevant facts that may help flog the photos. I find it far more interesting keywording things I don't know exactly what they are because I learn stuff and find out things I did not know before. Like I can now tell the difference between cow parsley and hemlock because of keywording - I never even knew they were similar until I was captioning and keywording photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Starsphinx said: I find it far more interesting keywording things I don't know exactly what they are because I learn stuff and find out things I did not know before. Totally agree with that, though I can get quite distracted following links. Now, if only I could remember what I'd learned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Quist Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 hours ago, Bryan said: You need to get into the mindset that keywording is fun. I quite enjoy the research involved, and trying to get one over the competition by finding more relevant facts that may help flog the photos. Me too. I actually enjoy writing more than the basic and finding synonyms or conceptual key words, if needed. Learned a great deal. Also a great way to keep up your foreign language skills. Worst scenario is to have a lot of images you want to be on sale the next day. Needs to be split up into necessary and supplementary work on more days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Starsphinx said: I find it far more interesting keywording things I don't know exactly what they are because I learn stuff and find out things I did not know before. Like I can now tell the difference between cow parsley and hemlock because of keywording - I never even knew they were similar until I was captioning and keywording photos. No kidding! I shot this rodeo image (RHP461) that had a painted tin container attached to the saddle. As the saying goes, this wasn't my first rodeo but I had no idea what that was. Google wasn't going to help as I had no starting reference point. So after pondering this over for about 15 minutes, it occurred to me that a lariat would fit nicely inside. I checked on the internet and found exactly one site that had something like it for sale. It turns out that it's a lariat carry case used by trick rodeo riders back in the 1920's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kuta Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Shooting is the fun part. Most everything else is work. OK, there is the occasional enjoyable "Aha" moment while researching for keywords. Unless it takes a long time, like trying to figure out exactly where I was while wandering around the Old City in Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normspics Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Colblimp said: I'd rather gouge my eyeballs out with a rusty screwdriver and fry them in a pound of lard than keyword images, but it's something which has to be done. Ugggggh. I'm vegetarian but find a strange affinity with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Colblimp said: gouge my eyeballs out with a rusty screwdriver and fry them in a pound of lard Eyeballs, screwdriver, lard, all well represented, but for the phrase tag- "Sorry, we can't find anything for your search term"- Alamy. Only 24 for "pound of lard" though. Seriously, OP, over time you can copy over a lot of tags for similar images in AIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Rico said: No kidding! I shot this rodeo image (RHP461) that had a painted tin container attached to the saddle. As the saying goes, this wasn't my first rodeo but I had no idea what that was. Google wasn't going to help as I had no starting reference point. So after pondering this over for about 15 minutes, it occurred to me that a lariat would fit nicely inside. I checked on the internet and found exactly one site that had something like it for sale. It turns out that it's a lariat carry case used by trick rodeo riders back in the 1920's. Funny, at first glance I thought it was a repurposed 1000 foot magazine for an Arriflex 35BL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, spacecadet said: Funny, at first glance I thought it was a repurposed 1000 foot magazine for an Arriflex 35BL. Thanks, you made me check Film canisters are a lot thinner Whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It's not much fun, but AT LEAST as important as taking great photos. You may have taken the best photo in the history of photography, but if nobody finds it, it's not going to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colblimp Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 6 hours ago, spacecadet said: Eyeballs, screwdriver, lard, all well represented, but for the phrase tag- "Sorry, we can't find anything for your search term"- Alamy. Only 24 for "pound of lard" though. Seriously, OP, over time you can copy over a lot of tags for similar images in AIM. PMSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Dwyer Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I agree with the comments on the importance of key wording and describing what's in the image but i also try to think about what a Google Searcher might type in. sometimes querky phrases like "show me the money" or IFRS-15 generate views that I wouldn't otherwise get. In short, my point is that key wording is your sales line to get people to look at your product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orest Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 9.2.2019 at 21:30, Joseph Clemson said: At least you are not making the mistake of trying to fill every one of the fifty available keyword slots and falling into the realms of irrelevancy in doing so. That was my mistake during the test-phase at Alamy. I have ~4000 pictures to upload and I thought 50 tags per image will drive me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.