SRJUK Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 So days after the China scandal which is meant to be resolved, I’m now instead getting several worldwide sales at sub $1. Coincidence??? Rights managed too. anyone else. We should be able to set a minimum sales price that well accept. Country: Worldwide Usage: Editorial Media: Editorial website Industry sector: Media, design & publishing Image Size: Any size Start: 13 October 2022 Single use in online platforms, social channels and Editorial use in owned DOOH when used in an editorial context and in owned media. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yup, had one of those as well. discouraging! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yeah, had one of those this morning ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Yes. Having successfully avoided the China sales, I had 5 of these yesterday 😡 Kumar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I had one today. Posted on "Images sold in October". Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ramsay Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 for me yesterday too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Curious, Distributors again? so it looks from some of the sales report that it isn't, most are coming as DOOH. With the sheer numbers being reported, I am really curious over what period this was allowed to accumulate. Alamy is still letting buyers do whatever they feel like Edited October 14, 2022 by meanderingemu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, meanderingemu said: Curious, Distributors again? Mine wasn't a distributor .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansos Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I'm having a bit of a DOOH Dah day, 6 so far. Not sure if I should be happy or sad. At $0.96 gross each it is nothing to write home about. Couple of songs come to mind to help ease the pain: and Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah (Original) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Not getting any DOOH, just the $1.20 news. is DOOH a Novel Feature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Hatton Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 My last 3 sale have been $1, this cant go on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Crean Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, meanderingemu said: Not getting any DOOH, just the $1.20 news. is DOOH a Novel Feature. Should be renamed...POOH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 These are not Novel Use sales (At least, I have had them and I have opted out of NU for a long time); nor are they distributor sales as we are getting 40% of 96 cents.... Kumar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 If the buyer is in China, they may have bought directly as opposed to through a distributor to get around photographers exclusions. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRJUK Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 It’s the first time I’ve had any of these DOOH sales, and the images really wouldn’t be of any use on a billboard. Is clearly the same company using a new route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, meanderingemu said: Not getting any DOOH, just the $1.20 news. is DOOH a Novel Feature. https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/15274-whats-a-dooh from which: https://resources.broadsign.com/blog/what-is-dooh-media-3 but no Alamy input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbiganski Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I came into the forum today to learn about 'Choose another rights-managed license' but this thread caught my eye. Oddly though, I'm not seeing any combination of a 'rights-managed license' that produces a $1.00 or $1.20 sale. My images are Rights-Managed and selecting 'Choose another rights-managed license' always produces a price that's relative to an image's regular pricing. Interesting read about DOOH-DOOH too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch White Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 A quote below from one of the links that Cryptoprocta kindly posted above from 'Broadsign' article: "Why marketers are so excited about DOOH media One of the key reasons why DOOH is such a valuable marketing asset is its impressive visibility. Digital displays are often in high-traffic areas, ensuring their content is seen by many people. Further, unlike at-home or online advertising, there is no way for the audience to skip the ad, use an ad-blocker, or change the contents of the screen. This means that when content goes up, it’s going to get its full playthrough and is likely to be noticed." So, it begs the question why on earth do Alamy sales team think it is a good idea to give our images away for a pathetic fee? Yes, I realise that they will be licensing thousands of images but that does not help the image producers, slippery slope becoming steeper and steeper! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, frankbiganski said: I came into the forum today to learn about 'Choose another rights-managed license' but this thread caught my eye. Oddly though, I'm not seeing any combination of a 'rights-managed license' that produces a $1.00 or $1.20 sale. My images are Rights-Managed and selecting 'Choose another rights-managed license' always produces a price that's relative to an image's regular pricing. Interesting read about DOOH-DOOH too. The prices listed bear very little relationship to what usually happens. I'm afraid you will be very disappointed at what Alamy will get for your images. Paulette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbiganski Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, NYCat said: The prices listed bear very little relationship to what usually happens. I'm afraid you will be very disappointed at what Alamy will get for your images. Paulette I know. I sold on Shutterstock for a few years and that experience simply reminds me that I cannot quit my day job. 🤣 Still, curious how some of these Alamy contributors are receiving a $1.00 sale. The lowest price I see (in UK) is £9.99 per image, so how are they just receiving a buck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, frankbiganski said: I know. I sold on Shutterstock for a few years and that experience simply reminds me that I cannot quit my day job. 🤣 Still, curious how some of these Alamy contributors are receiving a $1.00 sale. The lowest price I see (in UK) is £9.99 per image, so how are they just receiving a buck? Because of the deal cut by the buyers, e.g. bulk discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Cryptoprocta said: Because of the deal cut by the buyers, e.g. bulk discount. buy 1 get 12 free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarloBo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Considering that DOOH is mostly popular in modern cities with flashing neon signs and contemporary architecture..there aren't many countries where these kind of sales can happen 🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkopix Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 15:04, Nick Hatton said: My last 3 sale have been $1, this cant go on. This is now a lower return than from microstock .. a very worrying trend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbiganski Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 It was great whilst it lasted. I learned a lot on perfecting my images from this forum in short amount of time, and I thank everyone who offered their experience, suggestions and support. But I cannot continue to work with a company that is this deceitful. I contacted Alamy regarding these $1.00 sales and "Chantelle" replied stating: "If you are referring to image pack deals, that we offer for some of our customers, unfortunately contributors are unable to opt out of this. Even if your images are marked as RM or RF". Alamy makes no reference to "image pack deals" on our contributor contract page (https://www.alamy.com/terms/contributor.aspx), other than under paragraph 6.4, where it states: "Alamy has full authority to negotiate all terms of commissions, licences and reproduction rights of the Content including the fee, duration and scope of any Licence at its absolute discretion". That statement alone was concerning to me, but I opted to move forward since contributors were able to set their images for sale as either RM or RF -- which is an implied contract. I will go the time-consuming route of creating digital buckets with Amazon services and sell my images on my own before I give away my images for a buck. Truly ludicrous and sad, and I expected more from a company that set such a high-level of standards from its contributors. Watch out... here comes another bus! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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