Raz_Mc Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Hi I'm a light contributor. Just slightly baffled by my last sale, which was $0.36 for a passport photo. Details of sale are: Country: Worldwide Usage: Editorial, Use in syndicated editorial news features, single context only. Novel Use Media: Newspaper - national 34 MB 3000 x 4000 pixels 1 MB compressed Print run: Unlimited Placement: National Image Size: Any size Start: 17 May 2024 Duration: Unlimited Question is, how is it possible for the buyer to receive such use of a photo for so little? worldwide, unlimited, national newspaper, unlimited run ? up to now, the lowest sale i've had is just over a dollar. Thanks Raz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Are you in novel use? Alamy also offer discounted image packs, similar to microstock. No, it's not great. Yes, seems there is nothing the original stock agencies can do to stop things moving in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raz_Mc Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Thanks Steve. Yes, appears I am in Novel Use. Can't undo that til next April. A sale is a sale, I guess. I sold my first +$100 image a month ago, so I think its the stark contrast of this that baffles me. But unlimited newspapers worldwide.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Congrats on your first $100 license. Low prices, get used to it. Trend seems to be ever downwards. You may find license numbers improve as prices drop, but scant consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 This appears to be one of appalling PA Media 'deals' that I had hoped Alamy had scrapped. You will quite likley find your image used in dozens and dozens of UK local and regional newspapers illustrating an article written by a PA journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 22 minutes ago, geogphotos said: You will...find your image used in dozens and dozens of UK local and regional newspapers... the good news... you are on the way to getting hundreds & hundreds of tearsheets which will get you dozens & dozens of privileges includes press passes to The Olympics, Manchester United home games, worldwide brunches hosted by varied prime ministers... (look for business class round trip tickets attached to emails) 🤑__ 🤑__ 🤑 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 What baffles me is why sales like this qualify as "Novel Use"? Aren't they just editorial use licenses with "novel" (i.e. super low) prices? This is why I opted out of NU years ago... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said: the good news... you are on the way to getting hundreds & hundreds of tearsheets which will get you dozens & dozens of privileges includes press passes to The Olympics, Manchester United home games, worldwide brunches hosted by varied prime ministers... (look for business class round trip tickets attached to emails) 🤑__ 🤑__ 🤑 The only 'good news' comes from finding, then monetising, the copyright infringments that result from such widespread distribution. Sad but true that I make more from infringements than from Alamy licenses. Edited May 20 by geogphotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony ALS Posted Monday at 15:32 Share Posted Monday at 15:32 Just had the identical use as the OP for an image with my net working out to be $0.15! So this continues and heading towards the dire prices the first agency I uploaded images to before Alamy beginning with S that I'm not supposed to name. Do Alamy still reckon $35 is the average gross? 8 images with an average gross of $9.46 to date this month. Far better than the micros admittedly but for how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted Monday at 15:54 Share Posted Monday at 15:54 21 minutes ago, Tony ALS said: $35 is the average gross? Does anyone in the UK get anywhere near this? I don't. Maybe in America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin L Posted Monday at 16:45 Share Posted Monday at 16:45 47 minutes ago, Steve F said: Does anyone in the UK get anywhere near this? I don't. Maybe in America This year my average gross is $31, close but probably no cigar (which is good as I couldn't afford one). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hogg Posted Monday at 17:23 Share Posted Monday at 17:23 Definitely not and never will but my own fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted Monday at 19:06 Share Posted Monday at 19:06 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steve F said: Does anyone in the UK get anywhere near this? I don't. Maybe in America $20 is my average gross so far this year. I'm opted out Novel use and distribution in some territories (opted out of China, Hong Kong, India, Belarus & Russian Federation) Mark Edited Monday at 19:09 by M.Chapman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted Monday at 19:10 Share Posted Monday at 19:10 I'm lower but pulled down by Web news which sometimes makes novel use look generous. Oh boy... 🦔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin L Posted Monday at 19:33 Share Posted Monday at 19:33 Just to clarify I don't do Live News, out of Novel Use and only in a couple of countries for distribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VbFolly Posted Monday at 19:50 Share Posted Monday at 19:50 My average gross this year is about $23. I'm not in novel use, but in distribution in most countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted Monday at 20:41 Share Posted Monday at 20:41 My gross average this year so far is $26. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted Monday at 20:51 Share Posted Monday at 20:51 (edited) I'm at $28.91 for a gross average per sale, so far for 2024. Not in Novel Use. Edited Tuesday at 10:33 by Michael Ventura 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Hatton Posted Monday at 21:30 Share Posted Monday at 21:30 $23 for me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted Monday at 21:32 Share Posted Monday at 21:32 I'm $13.4 average this year (the .4 is important) 😭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubens Alarcon Posted Monday at 21:43 Share Posted Monday at 21:43 Last year's average for all contributors that reported sales in the forum was $22.90. This year, so far, it is $23.55. An improvement, but not by much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecile Marion Posted Monday at 21:53 Share Posted Monday at 21:53 $29.50 avg/gross for this year so far for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted Monday at 22:09 Share Posted Monday at 22:09 2024 so far $ 24.88 avg/gross - not opted out of anything. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubens Alarcon Posted Monday at 22:25 Share Posted Monday at 22:25 (edited) 2024 for me = $38.26 avg/gross I was out of Novel use, but I opted in this month so I can track if there is any negative or positive impact in my numbers during the second half of the year. I'll report back once the year is over. Edited Tuesday at 01:25 by Rubens Alarcon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg Posted Tuesday at 01:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:26 $32.27 gross 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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