Refund day?

[John Mitchell]

I've been lucky when it comes to refunds. I get very few. However, today four refunds -- all in the low $$ category -- popped up, which is a new single-day record for me. They are apparently all to the same client (travel guide use) and were licensed in June 2020. Has anyone else experienced this today? 

[Vincent Lowe]

Yes, just the one though, also from June.  Looks like the job got cancelled.

 

I had another refund a few days ago but that was a PU.

[John Mitchell]

1 minute ago, Vincent Lowe said:

Yes, just the one though, also from June.  Looks like the job got cancelled.

 

I had another refund a few days ago but that was a PU.

 

Not good news, but that makes me feel a little better. You're probably correct about the project being cancelled. But who knows for sure.

 

At least they weren't for larger amounts.

[Michael Ventura]

Me too. Just one from that same travel guide back in June. 😔

[John Mitchell]

My four sales -- three Vancouver images and one Cancun shot -- were interesting choices IMO, so it's a bit disappointing.

 

I'm now almost back to square one for December with four new sales and four refunds. 😐

[MariaJ]

5 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

I've been lucky when it comes to refunds. I get very few. However, today four refunds -- all in the low $$ category -- popped up, which is a new single-day record for me. They are apparently all to the same client (travel guide use) and were licensed in June 2020. Has anyone else experienced this today? 

 

I came here to ask the same question.  I had 2 refunds for UK travel guide images licensed in June.  Both were of Victoria, BC.

[John Mitchell]

2 hours ago, MariaJ said:

 

I came here to ask the same question.  I had 2 refunds for UK travel guide images licensed in June.  Both were of Victoria, BC.

 

Quite possibly the same publisher. Looks like they licensed a lot of images.

[Chuck Nacke]

8 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

I've been lucky when it comes to refunds. I get very few. However, today four refunds -- all in the low $$ category -- popped up, which is a new single-day record for me. They are apparently all to the same client (travel guide use) and were licensed in June 2020. Has anyone else experienced this today? 

John,

 

I feel your pain, or should I say Irritation?  I am always "Pissed Off" by refunds, but they are a fact of our life in the

digital photography licensing age.

 

Sorry my friend,

 

Chuck 

[geebee]

Two refunds of Greek Islands images for travel guide sold in june, plus a PU sale refunded on Tuesday. Great start to the month!!!!!

[Doc]

Two here - Denmark and Mallorca

 

🥵

[Bryan]

Never good news, sorry to hear John, but worse things happen at sea.

 

Not had one in a while - but I've had plenty of practice in dealing with the pain of refunds.  🤞

[Mike Brooks]

Hi John, 

 

notified of three yesterday. 2x Poland, 1x England. All originally licensed June 2020.

 

Fortunately this doesn't occur too often....

[Cal]

16 hours ago, Vincent Lowe said:

Yes, just the one though, also from June.  Looks like the job got cancelled.

 

I had another refund a few days ago but that was a PU.

 

PU shouldn't have refunds as an option!

[spacecadet]

11 minutes ago, Cal said:

 

PU shouldn't have refunds as an option!

Take a look at the Consumer Rights Act. You're entitled to a refund on online transactions if you change your mind.

This may not strictly apply to image downloads, but Alamy has a contractual refund policy anyway.

[John Mitchell]

12 hours ago, Chuck Nacke said:

John,

 

I feel your pain, or should I say Irritation?  I am always "Pissed Off" by refunds, but they are a fact of our life in the

digital photography licensing age.

 

Sorry my friend,

 

Chuck 

 

That's right, easy payment means easy refund as well in the brave new digital world. It would be nice to know the reasons for refunds, though.

[Phil Robinson]

Also one from June - Berlin. Look's like a travel publisher has gone bust.....

[Phil Robinson]

8 hours ago, spacecadet said:

Take a look at the Consumer Rights Act. You're entitled to a refund on online transactions if you change your mind.

This may not strictly apply to image downloads, but Alamy has a contractual refund policy anyway.

Can you download music and then get a refund because it 'wasn't the song I was thinking of' I wonder?

[John Mitchell]

21 minutes ago, Phil Robinson said:

Also one from June - Berlin. Look's like a travel publisher has gone bust.....

 

A casualty of the pandemic perhaps.

[spacecadet]

11 hours ago, Phil Robinson said:

Can you download music and then get a refund because it 'wasn't the song I was thinking of' I wonder?

You can't download it unless you waive your cooling-off rights.

I did say the CRA may not "strictly" apply. I also said that Alamy have a refund policy, which here seems to be more generous than the law.

My point was that the poster's suggestion of a blanket refusal may have fallen foul of consumer law.

[Abiyoyo]

The same to me to this one sold 1st June

 

Country: Worldwide
Usage: Editorial
Media: Travel guides -print and/or e-book
Print run: up to 3 million
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/2 page
Start: 01 June 2020
End: 01 June 2023
Online PDF Rights Included ; Duration: 7 years;

[Phil Robinson]

2 hours ago, spacecadet said:

You can't download it unless you waive your cooling-off rights.

 

That's interesting. I'm sure Alamy could find a way to make it very clear to PU buyers that they can't get a refund for their digital download - as well as pointing out that that they are paying $9.99 for use of an image of a Ferrari, not an actual high performance sportscar. 

[Alex Ramsay]

3 refunds here (2 of them from June), one then resold for roughly 2/3 the original fee

 

Alex

[Stokie]

Yes, I had a refund too.

 

Victoria, Vancouver Island.

 

Country: Worldwide
Usage: Editorial
Media: Travel guides -print and/or e-book
Print run: up to 3 million
Placement: Inside
Image Size: 1/2 page
Start: 29 June 2020
End: 29 June 2023
Online PDF Rights Included ; Duration: 7 year

[dunstun365]

Are you given the reason for refunds? Not sold anything on here yet but how do refunds work if the customer has already downloaded the image?

Edited December 18, 2020 by dunstun365

[John Mitchell]

23 minutes ago, dunstun365 said:

Are you given the reason for refunds? Not sold anything on here yet but how do refunds work if the customer has already downloaded the image?

 

Nope. No reasons ever given here.

 

You can't really return a digital file, so I guess the money must be refunded to the client, the license cancelled, and that's it. The buyer obviously will still have the image, though.