Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I seem to be avoiding and then embracing the problem of too many similars. When I capture something, I upload just one to three images. But . . . with the lockdown and my efforts to avoid catching or spreading COVID-19, I have been in the rather small area of Liverpool City Centre for the past eight plus months. On my walks, I'm constantly revisiting the same places and so recapturing the same subjects. Below is the Liverpool statue of the Homeless Christ. Timothy Schmalz's original sculpture is in Toronto. I seem to pass this one every week when walking through the little church park where it lays. The character of the light changes and the season, but basically if I snap it I'm creating another similar, or a near-similar. This is just one of about thirty subjects I've been recapturing again and again. My shooting trips to Chester and Leeds won't be happening before spring, if then. Am I just bitching here? I am. I'm frustrated as Liverpool is about to have another major lockdown. But surely I'm not the only one feeling these frustrations. I'll continue shooting but I'm going to try to be slower and my thoughtful about what I upload. How goes things with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemson Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Ed, Liverpool is an intensely rich and varied place, both visually and in personalities. If you carry on as you suggest I doubt similars are going to be a massive problem for you. When I worked there, I used to walk its streets with my camera on a daily basis and never failed to see something new or a new angle on something familiar. Sadly, this was before I joined Alamy and so I never made full use of the freedom of subject matter Alamy provides. I woudl love to have my time there again. If there was one place I could choose to be locked down in at the moment, it would be Liverpool, because all eyes are on it as the centre of the increasing infection rates of Covid-19. Even if you don't shoot live news there is still scope for illustrative editorial, especially that which focusses on people and places affected by the imminent lockdown. I guess you are like me and like to melt into the background and don't want to be pushing your lens in people's faces. The beauty of Liverpool is that, especially in the city centre, people with cameras are two-a-penny and your are not likely to draw unwanted attention. Keep safe, but make the most of a unique opportunity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Being able to drive and cycle we are getting out and about locally at present, but that may stop if the lockdown tightens. We normally make a lot of use of public transport, but have decided to put that on hold for the time being, and have taken to having groceries delivered or use click and collect. I am seeing this as a percentages thing, some activities are relatively safe - cycling to and working on the allotment, maybe having a cup of something in an almost empty cafe etc, while others are not, e.g. travelling on a crowded bus with the windows shut, or mingling with hordes in a shopping centre. The older you are the less risk you can afford to take with this bug. When the number of cases fell over the summer we were more adventurous. We live in a semi rural location and there isn't much locally that I haven't already covered, that will appeal to customers. As Joseph says, Liverpool, or any large city, provides many more opportunities. Our sons live in Leeds and Manchester, but whenever we visit other things take priority - looking after grandbairns, helping with house restoration etc. Maybe in the future I'll be able to exploit those resources. The gloomy weather isn't helping, I walked some distance around Durham city yesterday and took one photo, which I have decided not to process, the weather was just too overcast and dull, while today, and possibly tomorrow, wall to wall rain is predicted. We hope to get out on Wednesday. But, back to similars. Yes it's a problem when you are confined to base. I have taken some shots not remembering that I already have that scene covered, and not bothered to upload. In the past I have replaced images with a better version, asking Alamy to delete if the two are very similar, or going through the long haul deletion process if not. Some customers shop by date, so I guess having a mix of recent and older photos is perhaps a good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Life in the northern counties is getting more difficult, for sure, with no obvious end in sight. Businesses which were just 'clinging on' are now facing ruin. I feel for everyone who won't be able to pay their rent or mortgage... and publicans who don't know whether to order more beer or just pour it away. 9 minutes ago, Joseph Clemson said: Keep safe, but make the most of a unique opportunity. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bryan said: Some customers shop by date, so I guess having a mix of recent and older photos is perhaps a good idea. Now that's a positive thought. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Joesph, I have almost 1,400 pics of Liverpool and I've covered everything I see about the lockdown. I've been here more than a year. I like our mayor. He seems to be a good and sensible guy. Bryan, for pics, do you like Manchester or Leeds best? Edited October 12, 2020 by Ed Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Ed, it sucks, I haven't done much travelling at all apart from flitting between Basingstoke and Austria. Yes, I've also been revisiting the same subjects in different light and weather conditions. But consider yourself lucky, you live in a historic city with lots of culture and tourist sights. I've taken loads of pictures of Basingstoke and they hardly ever sell! Steve Edited October 12, 2020 by Steve F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I have no problem with revisiting good selling subjects. I only think of similars as photos taken on the same day, time, lighting etc.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 One plan I haven't acted on yet is to look at what I have on my hard drive but have never uploaded. In the time of travel for me I concentrated on those images but I know I also took some images around the city that should be uploaded. But I am very lazy about the whole process so don't upload a lot. Paulette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: Joesph, I have almost 1,400 pics of Liverpool and I've covered everything I see about the lockdown. I've been here more than a year. I like our mayor. He seems to be a good and sensible guy. Bryan, for pics, do you like Manchester or Leeds best? Edo I've had more opportunity to shoot in Leeds and there are plenty of opportunities for stock, whether it be in the city centre or in, for example, in Roundhay Park. You can take the free water taxi from the station to the Armouries museum, while the city centre arcades, the old covered market and the corn exchange are all worth visiting. In normal times Manchester is a city with a buzz about it, it feels lively with lots of young people about and loads going on. However I've not had the chance to take many photos there, something I hope to rectify in the future. So take your pick! One thing, you can travel on the buses with an aged persons pass in either city, but you have to pay to use the Manchester tram network and it's not cheap. It cost almost as much for the relatively short tram ride from the city centre to my son's house as I paid for the discounted rail ticket from Leeds to Manchester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Perhaps it helps to have some structure in these times. Use a list of all the hotels, or churches, or health centres and hospitals, or public buildings etc Lots of Listed Buildings in Liverpool https://historic-liverpool.co.uk/interactive-maps/listed-buildings-liverpool/#13/53.4150/-2.9800 Edited October 12, 2020 by geogphotos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 In terms of photographing in a relatively small area (as many of us are now doing), I feel it’s possible to drill down deeper into particular subjects… even when we think we’ve already photographed everything worth photographing. Liverpool, right now, is both typical of northern towns (post-industrial issues, low wages, urban renewal, etc) and exceptional (rise in covid cases). I’d be concentrating on the changes we choose, and the changes that are forced upon us… and find new ways to illustrate them. Traffic, housing, social services, work, leisure, or something more niche. OK… not as exciting, perhaps, as booking a flight to some sun-kissed resort, but I rather enjoy the challenge of finding new and saleable images even in places I think I know quite well. The biggest problem, I’m finding, isn’t photographic… It’s trying to stay optimistic - and maintaining mental equilibrium - when the world is going to hell in a handcart… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Ian, your list of Listed Buildings . . . most are not on my list. It looks like the work of three lifetimes. I could use a few more pub pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Ian, your list of Listed Buildings . . . most are not on my list. It looks like the work of three lifetimes. I could use a few more pub pics. I didn't mean to do all of them Edo...just for some inspiration. Maybe all the Grade One Listed buildings within walking distance? Pubs are closing in Liverpool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, geogphotos said: Pubs are closing in Liverpool. .........so you could have a record of those that don't reopen🙁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 If only they were pretty girls, Ian. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, spacecadet said: .........so you could have a record of those that don't reopen🙁 There are tragedies afoot. A lot of hardworking people will lose their jobs. My problems are small by comparison. I hope Sir Paul is paying attention to what's happen in Beatlesburg. Edited October 12, 2020 by Ed Rooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, John Morrison said: In terms of photographing in a relatively small area (as many of us are now doing), I feel it’s possible to drill down deeper into particular subjects… even when we think we’ve already photographed everything worth photographing. Liverpool, right now, is both typical of northern towns (post-industrial issues, low wages, urban renewal, etc) and exceptional (rise in covid cases). I’d be concentrating on the changes we choose, and the changes that are forced upon us… and find new ways to illustrate them. Traffic, housing, social services, work, leisure, or something more niche. OK… not as exciting, perhaps, as booking a flight to some sun-kissed resort, but I rather enjoy the challenge of finding new and saleable images even in places I think I know quite well. The biggest problem, I’m finding, isn’t photographic… It’s trying to stay optimistic - and maintaining mental equilibrium - when the world is going to hell in a handcart… Agree. I read an interesting article in the newspaper this morning about people waiting for their lives to get back to normal. Reality is, it’s a changed world, and it is doubtful the world will ever be like it was a year ago. Now, that’s a hard pill to swallow. Life no longer flows from one time to the next as it has always done. I do have a non-depressive personality, so I’m handling it pretty well. The hardest for me was probably March. Once I got past not being able to see my family when I pleased, I eventually got used to the solitude. Life isn’t as strict as it initially was, so I welcome seeing family. Not often, but sometimes. I miss going to a restaurant, which I absolutely don’t do. I will get pickup meals, though, but rarely. I would think the people who are used to hopping on public transportation and traveling widely feel the change the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. I must not take any more pictures of Lacock Bakery. Sorry chaps, I've got nothing sensible today...but I do have 41 pictures of Lacock bakery. Stay safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Standfast said: Sorry chaps, I've got nothing sensible today...but I do have 41 pictures of Lacock bakery. Only 10 for me. Must try harder😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I've got 15 pictures of Eleanor Rigby and they all look alike. She refuses to change her outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I think I'll have to do something about this 41 is silly, I 'll just delete the ones that have'nt sold... It's not as though it's a really good bakery, just tourist snacks! Edo, is there a Father McKenzie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Father McKenzie - that reminds me. Many moons ago I visited the Roman Catholic cathedral in Liverpool, a striking, relatively modern building. I asked if I could take photos inside to be told, sure, why not! Not what I expected and possibly not the case today? Early days and non good enough for Alamy sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Looks like Liverpool is in the highest category of lockdown again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Same here @Ed Rooney, and went from new country/area every few weeks to now place rented until next April. Getting bored by marginal absolutely zero chance of licensing protest- though i still like my Cameroon friends (the High Commission is 10 minutes walk from my place). I actually do them, because i need the adrenaline of the live news requirements. did get a couple less marginal one that could have more appeal in last couple weeks, but as we are now under tighter Covid rules, i assume this will die. I was planning to go on long bike ride to go see the colours in Gatineau this week-end, but that got nixed when they went into Red Lockdown, and going to see leaves is not essential.... thankfully i still have my heron friend making appearances in the park next to where i am. couple decent reflections to process. last week swallowing a fish Edited October 13, 2020 by meanderingemu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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