Bryan Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Betty LaRue said: Bryan, we once owned 10 acres out of town where we kept our horses. There was a tin horse barn and rural water and electricity. We made a large garden near the barn and water. Tilled in aged horse manure and straw. Corn, tomatoes, melons, green beans, carrots, and I can’t remember what else. We put up an electric fence to keep the horses out. The rabbits got the tomatoes and beans. The turtles got the melons, tunneling in from below. It would look like the cantaloupe were ripe until you picked them and found the hole, and that they were hollow. The corn was so tempting, the horses broke in and ate it. We didn’t get one stinkin’ mouthful of anything for all the work we did...mostly my work. That was my last garden. Only planted tomatoes since. Fewer tears if one crop fails. Oh dear that is dreadful, our woes are negligible in comparison! Fascinated by the concept of turtles burrowing under the melons. I once encountered parsnips hollowed out from below, never did find what did that, rats, voles or whatever, but no turtles in these parts - that I am aware of. Edited April 30, 2020 by Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Bryan said: I once encountered parsnips hollowed out from below, never did find what did that, rats, voles or whatever, but no turtles in these parts - that I am aware of. Have failed to grow a decent parsnip.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Thyrsis said: Have failed to grow a decent parsnip.... You wouldn't be able to sell such veg to a supermarket (even for their misshape range😉 ) but I bet it would eat just fine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 15 hours ago, Betty LaRue said: There was a tin horse barn Why would you want to keep tin horses in a barn? Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William B Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 To keep them from rusting in the rain would be my guess 😃. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Martin P Wilson said: You wouldn't be able to sell such veg to a supermarket (even for their misshape range😉 ) but I bet it would eat just fine! One for the soup pot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, William B said: To keep them from rusting in the rain would be my guess 😃. William, you hit the nail on the head! I always hated rusty horses. Ruined my britches when I rode them. Allan....🤨......😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Some of the critters that chapped me the most were squirrels. We had a peach tree that grew the largest, sweetest fruit. Bite into one and juice dripped off your elbow. Literally. I made wonderful peach cobblers with them. The squirrels would take one or two bites from a peach to check ripeness as they grew and ruin it. Then, when the ones that were left began to ripen, I’d see squirrels running down the fence or overhead electric line with a peach as big as their heads gripped in their teeth. That meant war. I’ll not discuss my war strategy other than it involved some yelling, missiles and....🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Our garden backs onto a wild couple of acres of rough ground but has a high brick wall with close boarded gate which seems to keep the critters out. There was a young badger tunneled in but he didn't reckon on the dog. It didn't come to blows but he was not made welcome. Also we have a big cat who does for rabbits, rats and the occasional squirrel. Both the Dalmatian & Labradoodle eat all the low-hanging fruit from the apple & pear trees, but seem to leave the garden alone except for the odd runner bean. I lose a few raspberries to the blackbirds, but not enough to worry about. Only thing I have to net is the gooseberry bush. The woods pong of fox sometimes but I've only seen him in the garden once in 30 years. The wooden fence has enough gaps for hedgehogs to come and go but they seem the only regular visitors. More wood pigeons than I'm happy about, but they don't do a lot of harm and I find their calling very calming. They are the most inept nest builders ever, I don't know how they survive as a species. Our barn swallows didn't make the return trip from Africa last year and would be here by now if any of their offspring were coming. The swifts should be here in a few weeks. Their shrieking as they chase insects up and down the street is the sound of summer. Edited April 30, 2020 by Robert M Estall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I used to get Grey Squirrels ruining my bird feeders when i lived in England, then discovered chilli powder, the birds can't taste it (or they love it) but the Squirrels wouldn't touch anything that was dusted with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, aphperspective said: I used to get Grey Squirrels ruining my bird feeders when i lived in England, then discovered chilli powder, the birds can't taste it (or they love it) but the Squirrels wouldn't touch anything that was dusted with it. That’s amazing. Wish I’d known that before I moved. I fed sunflower seeds to attract the most photographic and desirable birds, but the squirrels raided my feeders constantly. I had two hanging on a shepherds pole, and greased up the pole with lard. It was quite amusing to watch the squirrels try to climb, then slide down. They probably spent the rest of the day cleaning the fur on their bellies. Chili powder wouldn’t have been as nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said: That’s amazing. Wish I’d known that before I moved. I fed sunflower seeds to attract the most photographic and desirable birds, but the squirrels raided my feeders constantly. I had two hanging on a shepherds pole, and greased up the pole with lard. It was quite amusing to watch the squirrels try to climb, then slide down. They probably spent the rest of the day cleaning the fur on their bellies. Chili powder wouldn’t have been as nasty. I once hung a bird feeder on a long greased wire. Didn't have my camera to hand the day a squirrel slid down the wire and bounced off the feeder as my ancient terrier sat beneath and watched. There was a momentary pause when the squirrel hit the ground, looked at terrier and vice versa, before a Tom and Jerry type chase ensued around the garden. Truth to tell, Denzil (old terrier) was a bit of a wimp and wasn't trying too hard to catch the squirrel, but it gave me a load of laughs watching. Ha! Still does give me a laugh, ten years on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) A little grease goes a long way! 🤣😁 We humans are always trying to outfox the squirrels and we usually lose! They are smarter than us, some of the time. I had a pellet gun. I would pump it up and shoot my wooden fence near the squirrels. The loud sound of the pellet hitting the fence would send them running like crazy, and they’d stay gone for awhile. Truly, the squirrels, cute as they are, drove me bonkers. In spite of making a pet of one of the young ones. I hand fed him pecan halves, so he left my bird feeders alone. And by then, my dear husband had killed the peach tree by dehorning it too aggressively, so there were no peaches to ruin or steal. The dead tree did make a nice thing for my trumpet vine to climb, though. Would rather have had the peaches. Betty Edited April 30, 2020 by Betty LaRue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphperspective Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I was told by a zoo guy that birds are unable to feel the effects of capsaicin, that's the chemical in chilli that burns to us. If you think about it makes sense, in the wild Chilli plants and Peppers rely on birds to spread their seeds in droppings. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) Birds and gardens, yet more misery... Once upon a time people bred pigeons and the like to eat, now we grow cabbages to feed the pigeons Edited May 1, 2020 by Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 In the '20s, Hemingway sometimes capture pigeons for dinner in Paris. Do you wonder if pigeons give themselves a headache shaking their heads when the walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin P Wilson Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, TeeCee said: I once hung a bird feeder on a long greased wire. Didn't have my camera to hand the day a squirrel slid down the wire and bounced off the feeder as my ancient terrier sat beneath and watched. There was a momentary pause when the squirrel hit the ground, looked at terrier and vice versa, before a Tom and Jerry type chase ensued around the garden. Truth to tell, Denzil (old terrier) was a bit of a wimp and wasn't trying too hard to catch the squirrel, but it gave me a load of laughs watching. Ha! Still does give me a laugh, ten years on... 😃 I remember our (scaredy) cat chasing a squirrel up the trunk of a tree. A few feet up the squirrel stopped and turned round to face downwards, and swiped the cat acrosss the nose, the cat took its bleeding nose under the shed, it never chased a squirrel again, or Mistle Thrushes, but that is another story that ended under the shed! Edited May 1, 2020 by Martin P Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Cat flaps give cats a lot of freedom and take a lot of angst out of home owning but there is a downside. Those cats given to hunting will bring their triumphs indoors. Once the big handsome grey one dragged a partridge through his private entrance but it was still well and alive. Somehow it backed itself into the wine rack with the pecking bit poking out which worried the cat. I caught the cat and put him behind doors and extracted the partridge. It seemed OK though probably traumatised so I took it out past the wall and turned it loose. Never knew how that turned out. We used to have ducks waddle up from the river and hang out in the garden but the cat was getting bigger so the day came when they decided to find a safer gaff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 When she was a lot younger our cat arrived by the back door with a live chicken, unharmed even though it turned out it was from four gardens away on the street parallel to ours. Obviously I didn't know who it belonged to but I walked around the block and tried to imagine from the look of the houses and cars etc. who might own chickens, "Who lives in a house like this?" I was right first time. Any underlying resentment that they might have had about the incident was tempered by the fact that their chicken was unharmed. They were relatively new to chickens and were just letting them wander about in their garden. They promised to be more careful, I reminded them that there are foxes around as well. The next day she did it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 That's funny, Harry. Cats have an interesting bag of tricks. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Having had many cats and a few mice in my NYC apartment I can attest that some cats are good hunters and others just enjoy the entertainment of watching the mouse run around. I don't know which is worse. Hearing the crunching of bones in the middle of the night is not fun. Nor is seeing a mouse run unmolested under the refrigerator. Even worse when it dies there. They become fragrant. Now you don't miss NYC so much, Edo. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Like most New Yorkers, I've had both mice and roaches. But I didn't have either for my last 5 years at Mulberry Street. The building's management sent a guy around to put down poison once a month. You couldn't have him do that if you had a pet though. Cats who are hunters are very good hunters. But owls are the best hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I've started turning some of my old photographs into Coronavirus jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 On 30/04/2020 at 13:56, Thyrsis said: One for the soup pot! Reference strangely shaped parsnip. I love roasted parsnips, already looking forward to that treat much later in the year, however, and I don't know why this should be, I can't take them in soup. Growing parsnips, I always start them off in bog roll tubes under glass and then just plant the tube with the seedling, the tube rots away. You need to watch carefully as the tap root grows much faster than the leaf, and you should plant before it emerges from the bottom of the tube - otherwise you do risk a deformed root. If you have excellent soil and, crucially, fresh seed, they will germinate sown direct, but the bog roll method is very reliable. My allotment neigbour used to grow them for show and he used old oil drums containing a specially formulated compost, preparing each sowing station by digging down into the soil with a metal bar and back filling with his special brew. So endeth the (parsnip) lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bryan said: Reference strangely shaped parsnip. I love roasted parsnips, already looking forward to that treat much later in the year, however, and I don't know why this should be, I can't take them in soup. Growing parsnips, I always start them off in bog roll tubes under glass and then just plant the tube with the seedling, the tube rots away. You need to watch carefully as the tap root grows much faster than the leaf, and you should plant before it emerges from the bottom of the tube - otherwise you do risk a deformed root. If you have excellent soil and, crucially, fresh seed, they will germinate sown direct, but the bog roll method is very reliable. My allotment neigbour used to grow them for show and he used old oil drums containing a specially formulated compost, preparing each sowing station by digging down into the soil with a metal bar and back filling with his special brew. So endeth the (parsnip) lesson. Exactly what we have done this year but only two have germinated so far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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