kimba Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I just had eight images sell on Alamy for a pithy $1.25 each for use as web editorial. I am beyond pi$$ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, kimba said: I just had eight images sell on Alamy for a pithy $1.25 each for use as web editorial. I am beyond pi$$ed. Were they Novel Use sales? If so, that isn't unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrach Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Short answer? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mayall Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 you and many others Kimba, unfortunately the industry is where it is now and we can be sure it won't change. The question is if one should accept receiving small rewards for our efforts or give up on supplying images and do something else, the contributors who just like taking photos and feel they are doing something with them and not worried about a substantial reward for their images should find Alamy and other distributors ideal, it is what it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pietrach said: Short answer? Yes. Then opt out in April..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Thyrsis said: Then opt out in April..... Of Alamy? These aren't NU sales, but normal editorial licences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Preston Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Avpics said: Of Alamy? These aren't NU sales, but normal editorial licences I don't know about the OP, but I had exactly the same price sale today and mine was NU. There were others reporting the same as me in another thread today too. I'm opting out of NU in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Also 8 at 1.25. NU. To a commercial site with 20 million visitors a month. Opt out in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imageplotter Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It says they're NU, but I'm not buying that for a minute. Getting even more cheesed off with alamy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njene Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Phil Robinson said: Also 8 at 1.25. NU. To a commercial site with 20 million visitors a month. Opt out in April. Really? Gawd, that is just deplorable! Tell me this license doesn’t get abused left, right and center. Just scrap this license option altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 For the questions: is Alamy becoming a Microstock site: No, the sales are far lower, even if the rpd is still higher. (I'm not pretending that everything is coming up roses in micro-land) As for NU: the three sales I've had under $1 net were not NU; though I agree that it is clear from reports on the forum and elsewhere that the NU scheme is being abused, with Alamy's complicity. Unless they're using it as an 'introductory offer'. Whatever, if you opt out of NU, you may well still get low sales by other means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Cryptoprocta said: For the questions: is Alamy becoming a Microstock site: No, the sales are far lower, even if the rpd is still higher. (I'm not pretending that everything is coming up roses in micro-land) As for NU: the three sales I've had under $1 net were not NU; though I agree that it is clear from reports on the forum and elsewhere that the NU scheme is being abused, with Alamy's complicity. Unless they're using it as an 'introductory offer'. Whatever, if you opt out of NU, you may well still get low sales by other means. +1 Microstock sales are generally worth pennies, not £ (or $!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Steve F said: +1 Microstock sales are generally worth pennies, not £ (or $!) The average is likely into the dollars, certainly it is for me (though falling), but there can be far more sales, making the total higher. Of course, you can take the stance that you're not going to suport micro prices, which is why I didn't submit there for so long, but overall I've lost a lot of money via that strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Ok, ready to be shot down here, and not naming any names of agencies....! At the largest most popular microstock agency you'll be hard pressed to get more than $0.25 per picture. The new boy on the block pays better, up to ~ $3.30 and as low as $0.20 per picture, with the average around $0.99. I'll stick with Alamy thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Steve F said: Ok, ready to be shot down here, and not naming any names of agencies....! At the largest most popular microstock agency you'll be hard pressed to get more than $0.25 per picture. The new boy on the block pays better, up to ~ $3.30 and as low as $0.20 per picture, with the average around $0.99. I'll stick with Alamy thanks! That's what I said, rpd on the micros is lower, but total earnings is likely to be higher or much higher, for most people, except maybe those who mainly sell Live News successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cryptoprocta said: That's what I said, rpd on the micros is lower, but total earnings is likely to be higher or much higher, for most people, except maybe those who mainly sell Live News successfully. Ok, understood, think we're differentiating between very small amounts on very small amounts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cryptoprocta said: At the largest most popular microstock agency you'll be hard pressed to get more than $0.25 per picture. Hard pressed?? It's quite easy to get more per sale (without doing anything special), although I do concede it's not much more :-) Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Phil Robinson said: Also 8 at 1.25. NU. To a commercial site with 20 million visitors a month. Opt out in April. https://theculturetrip.com/about-us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfly Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Robinson said: https://theculturetrip.com/about-us/ A quick look around and it's text content seems to be generated by AI, ie 10 best bars in (insert name here, then let the robots find the content) They also use a lot of Flickr CC images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, David Pimborough said: Mind blowing corporate speak going on there Hypered-up speech for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, David Pimborough said: 25 cents upto the first $500 the maximum is 38 cents for subs. But there are also "on demand" and "other" sales which attract $1.88 (or more) each. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I'm unversed in the ways of microstock, but I'm wondering why a startup website like this with probably a very small budget for photography wouldn't go shopping at a micro agency rather than Alamy. What might be the attraction(s) here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: I'm unversed in the ways of microstock, but I'm wondering why a startup website like this with probably a very small budget for photography wouldn't go shopping at a micro agency rather than Alamy. What might be the attraction(s) here? Alamy curating a search for them, as apparently they do (other thread). Though how it can be worth it at these prices beats me, unless they charge a premium for the custom search. (I'm not saying they do, I have no idea.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Cryptoprocta said: Alamy curating a search for them, as apparently they do (other thread). Though how it can be worth it at these prices beats me, unless they charge a premium for the custom search. (I'm not saying they do, I have no idea.) I guess they can license a lot of images on Alamy without buying a subscription, but that doesn't seem like a huge motivation. I would like to see Alamy attract more microstock customers, but at better prices. It seems NU has become a window to micro-like pricing. I opted out a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Reichner Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 12:24, Steve F said: Ok, ready to be shot down here, and not naming any names of agencies....! At the largest most popular microstock agency you'll be hard pressed to get more than $0.25 per picture. The new boy on the block pays better, up to ~ $3.30 and as low as $0.20 per picture, with the average around $0.99. I'll stick with Alamy thanks! I have sold at that agency for the last 7 years, and have consistently averaged right around $1.00 USD commission per sale. Every month there are several commissions of $25 to $35, sometimes even significantly more, which keeps the average well above the $0.38 minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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