Bryan Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The Italian Amalfi coast town of Positano is asking for a Eu1000 permit before allowing commercial photography. A video licence will cost Eu2000. Educational, journalistic or private use will be exempt. Will existing photos be exempt? Thin end of the wedge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Are you not a journalist? It covers a lot! Just leave the tripod behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Quote The Italian Amalfi coast town of Positano is asking for a Eu1000 permit before allowing commercial photography. I was recently at the Uffizi gallery in Florence and saw a sign at the entrance that said no high definition or commercial was allowed. Must be tough to enforce this nonsense. I also recall they (tried to) ban selfie sticks in major Italian touristic sites. I still see them around everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imageplotter Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Oops. I have quite a few from Positano on sale, but I was definitely a journalist senza tripod. Definitely. Good to know though - I was thinking of going back to shoot some more stuff along the coast and in Capri as well in early December, so my lovely Positano landlord (fab hilltop flat with huge terrace overlooking the sea and Positano/coast, and its own lemon tree!) will miss out and I'll go elsewhere instead. Maybe France. Positano shooting itself in the piede, me ffinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Technically speaking, editorial photography isn't commercial photography. Can't all images taken in places like Positano just be marked as "editorial only"? Sounds like the proverbial tax grab to me. Don't see how policies like this can be enforced with general, walk-around photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi2ap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Perhaps this permit is aimed at the wedding photography market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I was at the Valley of the Kings at Luxor a few weeks ago. There are signs everywhere stating that absolutely no photos are allowed, and that fines will be imposed or the camera confiscated. So I left my camera in our minibus. Only to get really annoyed by many of the other tourists blatantly taking photos with their phones, or small cameras, even using selfie sticks. There were police armed with guns, but they ignored the behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Quote I was thinking of going back to shoot some more stuff along the coast and in Capri Cinque Terre is amazing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, digi2ap said: Perhaps this permit is aimed at the wedding photography market? Also, fashion shoots? 33 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: Technically speaking, editorial photography isn't commercial photography. Can't all images taken in places like Positano just be marked as "editorial only"? Sounds like the proverbial tax grab to me. Don't see how policies like this can be enforced with general, walk-around photography. As "journalistic" use is ok, surely John's comment "editorial only" should get round the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Sally said: I was at the Valley of the Kings at Luxor a few weeks ago. There are signs everywhere stating that absolutely no photos are allowed, and that fines will be imposed or the camera confiscated. So I left my camera in our minibus. Only to get really annoyed by many of the other tourists blatantly taking photos with their phones, or small cameras, even using selfie sticks. There were police armed with guns, but they ignored the behaviour. This is why a Sony RX100 is on my wish list. Best to look like a happy snapper in a lot of places these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, imageplotter said: ....so my lovely Positano landlord (fab hilltop flat with huge terrace overlooking the sea and Positano/coast, and its own lemon tree!) will miss out and I'll go elsewhere instead. Sounds far too good to miss out on - couple of bottles of chianti and the stupid regulations will be a distant memory anyhow ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reimar Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Robert M Estall said: Are you not a journalist? It covers a lot! Just leave the tripod behind I get the sentiment. But I am not a journalist. I'd like to think I'm a photographer. I also love my tripod (monopod in a pinch). Even if I was a photographer/journalist, that doesn't mean I can't use a tripod. I'm not going to sneak around hoping nobody will notice my soul sucking SLR camera. I would bring and use the tripod. If asked by police to stop I would (but I doubt that would ever happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, John Mitchell said: Technically speaking, editorial photography isn't commercial photography. Can't all images taken in places like Positano just be marked as "editorial only"? Sounds like the proverbial tax grab to me. Don't see how policies like this can be enforced with general, walk-around photography. I think to most non-photographers, commercial means 'professional' - for money, not as a hobby. And if translated from Italian, it almost certainly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imageplotter Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, digi2ap said: Perhaps this permit is aimed at the wedding photography market? That is a valid point, there are quite a few togs shooting bride and groom pics on the beach in Positano. Although this would hit local businesses, these are local Italian photographers - can't think this is what the local authorities would want. Anyway, it's Italy, so this year's tax will be next year's old news and it will probably never be enforced anyway. If in doubt, it can all be discussed over a glass of the above mentioned Chianti with the local police representative. Who is likely to be the landlord's second cousin and anyhoo... salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, Phil Robinson said: I think to most non-photographers, commercial means 'professional' - for money, not as a hobby. And if translated from Italian, it almost certainly does. Yes, that's true. Most people don't understand the difference between editorial and commercial, and most institutions (museums, galleries, gardens, etc.) don't seem to differentiate between the two. I've even given up trying to explain "stock photography" to people that I meet. Actually, I'm not sure what "stock" is myself any longer. Never really liked the term much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Brasilnut said: Cinque Terre is amazing as well. Very nice image. It does look like a remarkable place, a colourful human anthill of sorts. Not sure I'd want to be there during an earthquake, though. I wonder how much tax the artist had to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Brasilnut said: Cinque Terre is amazing as well. I've just been watching Boxtrolls (in French - stuck in a hotel in Paris, not much else on) and I think it was filmed there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasilnut Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Quote I've just been watching Boxtrolls (in French - stuck in a hotel in Paris, not much else on) and I think it was filmed there! There's 5 different cities along about 15-20km of coastline, hence Cinque Terre (meaning 5 lands). The one above is Manarola. http://www.cinqueterre.eu.com/en/the-five-towns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Douglas Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I consider it in two parts: 1. Taking the photo 2. Selling the photo The first is getting increasingly difficult to enforce, unless there is a blanket ban on any photography whatsoever. Have you seen all those smart phones at concerts where photography is prohibited? Just don't turn up with a 'professional' camera and draw attention (unless you are good at blagging) On the second, in my view it comes down to whether there is some law in place (Royal Parks, Trafalgar Square etc) or whether you have entered into a contract on entry to the venue (National Trust, most sporting venues, most concerts). I think, as photographers, we need to be prepared to defend our rights to take and sell photos, and ask the question "what specifically allows you to prevent me from doing that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Madonna mia! They should be paying people for braving the Amalfi Drive! Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi2ap Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Keith Douglas said: I consider it in two parts: 1. Taking the photo 2. Selling the photo The first is getting increasingly difficult to enforce, unless there is a blanket ban on any photography whatsoever. Have you seen all those smart phones at concerts where photography is prohibited? Just don't turn up with a 'professional' camera and draw attention (unless you are good at blagging) On the second, in my view it comes down to whether there is some law in place (Royal Parks, Trafalgar Square etc) or whether you have entered into a contract on entry to the venue (National Trust, most sporting venues, most concerts). I think, as photographers, we need to be prepared to defend our rights to take and sell photos, and ask the question "what specifically allows you to prevent me from doing that?" Slightly off topic but related - I see there are many images on Alamy of the Royal Parks. Did all these photographers of stock images really have permits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KODAKovic Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 22 hours ago, TeeCee said: Sounds far too good to miss out on - couple of bottles of chianti and the stupid regulations will be a distant memory anyhow ... mmm...you never been there right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KODAKovic Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 For all the people here mentioning Chianti, that's a Tuscany wine not Amalfi coast wine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KODAKovic Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 21 hours ago, imageplotter said: That is a valid point, there are quite a few togs shooting bride and groom pics on the beach in Positano. Although this would hit local businesses, these are local Italian photographers - can't think this is what the local authorities would want. Anyway, it's Italy, so this year's tax will be next year's old news and it will probably never be enforced anyway. If in doubt, it can all be discussed over a glass of the above mentioned Chianti with the local police representative. Who is likely to be the landlord's second cousin and anyhoo... salute! Sounds a bit offensive isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeCee Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 49 minutes ago, KODAKovic said: mmm...you never been there right? Couple of bottles of chianti and my own name is a distant memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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