Jansos Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Has anyone done any research, when signed in/out, on words related to LGBTQ community? I'm wondering if PAlamy have introduced censorship in this area? Also, what about UK / USA politics and politicians. I'm assuming they are fearful of lawsuits if certain words are used indiscriminately? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jansos said: Has anyone done any research, when signed in/out, on words related to LGBTQ community? I'm wondering if PAlamy have introduced censorship in this area? Also, what about UK / USA politics and politicians. I'm assuming they are fearful of lawsuits if certain words are used indiscriminately? Whatever this system is I don't see any evidence that it has anything to do with censorship. Rather it seems to be a heavy-handed and poorly implemented 'Parental lock' affair. Anyway it is easy for you to test yourself if you have any concerns, just search for certain keywords when logged in and then when logged out. Note that if you see a difference it might not be down to the keyword that you have chosen, instead it might be that the search results contain another associated keyword which is banned. Edit: Actually I'll correct that, if when logged out you get some images returned but less than when you're logged in then it will always be down to an associated keyword that is common in the images that you are searching for. Only a direct hit by searching for actual banned keyword will give 0 results. So searching for 'glamour' gives 0 results if not logged in but searching for 'glamor' gives 63,994 results, these will be images where the English spelling hasn't been added as a keyword. When logged in 'glamor' returns 282,497 images and 'glamour' 2,440,799, for me at least. Edited June 27, 2023 by Harry Harrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I was thinking glamor is just WRONG but I did find this..."While glamor appears sometimes in American English and rarely in British English, both communities prefer glamour." I have always used glamour so because of my English blood, I guess. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I've not followed this thread in any detail since my post suggesting that the word cum might be the culprit in Harry's example which now seems to be the case. I wonder if it there is a different search engine used when not logged in. I do wonder if it's using a general google or other search engine with some sort of safe search applied automatically when not logged in (unlikely to be a browser issue if all browsers return the same results). So maybe it's not Alamy doing the censoring. Why indeed would they do so - it would make no business sense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, MDM said: (unlikely to be a browser issue if all browsers return the same results). Anything's possible I guess, I'd like to believe it isn't Alamy. It was reported that this didn't happen with Microsoft's Edge but I haven't checked. It's not happening with some of the other competitor's websites that I've checked either. Sticking with Brightwell-xxx-Sotwell, Google doesn't stop me from finding images of the village, it would be ridiculous if it did, and a search for 'Brightwell-cum-Sotwell Alamy' brings up mine and some by Mr. Steve Bell of this parish as well. I can't imagine any generic search engine that would simply prevent you from seeing any photo with the word 'minor' in the keywords either, I can certainly find photos of Morris Minors on Google, no shortage there. You were absolutely on the right track though, it seemed pretty far-fetched at the time. I can't understand it at all but it's definitely the reason why people have been reporting images of theirs that couldn't be found on Alamy, we hadn't realised that we weren't logged in, or that it might matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Anything's possible I guess, I'd like to believe it isn't Alamy. It was reported that this didn't happen with Microsoft's Edge but I haven't checked. It's not happening with some of the other competitor's websites that I've checked either. Sticking with Brightwell-xxx-Sotwell, Google doesn't stop me from finding images of the village, it would be ridiculous if it did, and a search for 'Brightwell-cum-Sotwell Alamy' brings up mine and some by Mr. Steve Bell of this parish as well. I can't imagine any generic search engine that would simply prevent you from seeing any photo with the word 'minor' in the keywords either, I can certainly find photos of Morris Minors on Google, no shortage there. You are correct, I have a few images from there, and further to upload, and likely further visits planned. When leaving I usually refuel at the Tesco garage near Didcot, it's the cheapest I have seen for some time. Others from there long ago were shot with a Sony DSC-R1, an excellent camera but it wasn't Alamy approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, sb photos said: You are correct, I have a few images from there, and further to upload, and likely further visits planned. When leaving I usually refuel at the Tesco garage near Didcot, it's the cheapest I have seen for some time. Others from there long ago were shot with a Sony DSC-R1, an excellent camera but it wasn't Alamy approved. I don't usually get out to Didcot, but Wittenham Clumps is a favourite place. I knew about that street party but it's such a small village I thought I would have been a bit too conspicuous, and I would have been but not in the way that I had imagined. I think I've said that I've already stopped one unsuspecting photographer at Henley Regatta thinking it was you, I probably wouldn't have risked it a second time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Yes. Except for Lesbian, which is forbidden, the rest of the Alphabet Soup is in the clear. Why so many images are being blocked is that there is one or more other forbidden word in the keywords, Like lesbian. This was confusing initially, like why would an image of the official Miffy Shop or the Miffy Museum be blocked. It turned out it was the name of the shop and museum that contained the name of the author: Dick Bruna. And the word Dick is verboten. No exception for all those who are (nick)named Dick like Cheney or Fosbury or have the surname Dick, like Philip K. Index of censored keywords so far: (with the number of images I'm seeing over here when logged in) forbidden: bare - 572,131 bdsm - 25,202 breast - 444,404 breasts - 81,641 dick - 85,284 lesbian - 264,292 minor - 201,721 naked - 578,667 nude - 453,854 nudes - 17,689 penis - 30,822 piss - 6,499 pissing - 2,800 seductive - 388,940 sex - 526,424 sexy - 2,937,026 shit - 19,151 shitting - 649 torso - 254,541 total so far 6,496,298 allowed: dicks lesbians penises seduce seductiveness sexes wim Interesting results. I was at the original opening of the Virgi** Museum in Camden. I was beaten by the big boys getting their images up first, they obtained very prolific sales. Later I only had zooms. Had multiple attempts selecting agreeable vocabulary for a popular Ukraine Sweatshirt that showed a Russian battleship.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, wiskerke said: Index of censored keywords so far: Good to have a list, but there's one missing, straight in at number 2, "glamour" - 2,440,799 from the UK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Decio Molaro Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 hours ago, NYCat said: I was thinking glamor is just WRONG but I did find this..."While glamor appears sometimes in American English and rarely in British English, both communities prefer glamour." I have always used glamour so because of my English blood, I guess. Paulette In my case, using Google Chrome Translator always appears glamorous. For Google translator there is no Glamor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Decio Molaro Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 hours ago, NYCat said: Eu estava pensando que glamour é ERRADO, mas achei isso..."Embora o glamour apareça às vezes no inglês americano e raramente no inglês britânico, ambas as comunidades preferem o glamour." Eu sempre usei glamour por causa do meu sangue inglês, eu acho. Paulette Correcting: Google Chrome Translator always appears glamorous. For Google translator there is no Glamor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Glamour vs Glamor? Before making my remark I had read these two: Sapling American Heritage Glamor does appear in US English, but hardly in UK English. Hence my conclusion that the list originates in the UK. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansos Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 19 hours ago, wiskerke said: Yes. Except for Lesbian, which is forbidden, the rest of the Alphabet Soup is in the clear. Why so many images are being blocked is that there is one or more other forbidden word in the keywords, Like lesbian. This was confusing initially, like why would an image of the official Miffy Shop or the Miffy Museum be blocked. It turned out it was the name of the shop and museum that contained the name of the author: Dick Bruna. And the word Dick is verboten. No exception for all those who are (nick)named Dick like Cheney or Fosbury or have the surname Dick, like Philip K. Index of censored keywords so far: (with the number of images I'm seeing over here when logged in) forbidden: bare - 572,131 bdsm - 25,202 breast - 444,404 breasts - 81,641 dick - 85,284 lesbian - 264,292 minor - 201,721 naked - 578,667 nude - 453,854 nudes - 17,689 penis - 30,822 piss - 6,499 pissing - 2,800 seductive - 388,940 sex - 526,424 sexy - 2,937,026 shit - 19,151 shitting - 649 torso - 254,541 total so far 6,496,298 allowed: dicks lesbians penises seduce seductiveness sexes wim Many thanks! Good to know what is 'in' and what is 'verboten' - reminds me of an old song by that name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansos Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 21 hours ago, MDM said: I've not followed this thread in any detail since my post suggesting that the word cum might be the culprit in Harry's example which now seems to be the case. I wonder if it there is a different search engine used when not logged in. I do wonder if it's using a general google or other search engine with some sort of safe search applied automatically when not logged in (unlikely to be a browser issue if all browsers return the same results). So maybe it's not Alamy doing the censoring. Why indeed would they do so - it would make no business sense? Perhaps they are just playing safe to avoid any legal shenanigans from people who object to being called X, Y & Z? A photographer on Alamy told me that he ended up being sued by an offended woman because he had labelled/keyworded her in one of his pics as obese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 hours ago, wiskerke said: Index of censored keywords so far:... When I use Tineye to search for possible uses of my zoomed images it'll usually return just the one image, that being the one on Alamy. Sometimes it'll find none, and those are usually for subjects such as the naked bike ride, LGBT+ events, Phillip Schofield etc, which I assume is due to that filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I obviously lead a very boring life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamy Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Our current list of certain blocked words protect non-logged in searchers from seeing something they might not want to see - it also deters users looking for pornography from coming to the website to search for it. The list isn't published as it is subject to change. We will remove some of the content from these posts given that it's not ideal to be indexed for these types of searches. Thanks Alamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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