Marianne Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) duplicat Edited June 23, 2022 by Marianne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, CarloBo said: Yes. I mean that on Getty you have "Editorial All" and "Editorial News", so you have a way to single out News from All Editorial. On Alamy this isn't possibile as far as I can tell, they will always be in the same bin. Live News feed has their own search for 48 hours. Does Getty keep them separate for longer? Does that mean someone who has a news image, which also has long term editorial value need to upload twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) I'll just record this as a bug, a fairly trivial one, I'll try it again tomorrow just to make sure. Searched for 'Henley Royal Regatta' since it starts next week. Ultimate - 0 images Vital - 15 images Uncut - 3241 images Foundation - 0 images All images - 3259 images (total should be 3256 from the above figures but hey ho) Click on "See all Vital images for ‘henley royal regatta" to see which 15 images they are. Highlighted tab moves from 'All creative' to 'Vital' but instead I see all 3259 images. So it seems to be a simple misdirect. If I manually switch tabs at the top and back to Vital then just 15 images are shown. All achingly slow of course, which probably isn't easy to fix. I know Henley Regatta very well and I'm struggling to see what is Vital about the 15 images chosen. Edited June 23, 2022 by Harry Harrison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 hours ago, CarloBo said: Yes. I mean that on Getty you have "Editorial All" and "Editorial News", so you have a way to single out News from All Editorial. On Alamy this isn't possibile as far as I can tell, they will always be in the same bin. With Alamy editorial and news aren't always in the same bin. News is separate for 48 hours, although likely most news sales are made early in the first 24 hours. After 48 hours news images become stock and we have another bite at the apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamy Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Hi All, Alamy made some changes to the website this week, as many of you have already noticed. We've made these changes to appeal to our creative customer base and it has meant that there is a slightly different look and way to navigate the site, with an additional four ready-made collections. All of the images are still there and users can still search in 'all' as they used to, to get the results they need and we are monitoring site usage closely to ensure we don’t see a drop in any key metrics. Unfortunately we weren't able to update you on the Forum earlier than this as any advance notification to contributors would not have been appropriate as we needed to protect the marketing plan we have in place for customers. We have seen your comments and the feedback is immensely useful, and we raise all technical issues with our IT team, so please bear with us. Please remember you are also free to email our Contributor Relations team contributors@alamy.com where we will help with any questions you may have. Thanks, Alamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Confirming that "See all Vital images for ‘xxxxxx’ from the search results page instead takes you to All images for that search, but with the 'Vital' tab highlighted. It has to be 'reset' by moving between tabs, say Vital to Uncut for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Referring to an issue described above, it is unclear why it seems that often the number of images returned when searching All images is more than the sum of Creative & Editorial. The supposition is that perhaps archival or historical images do not come up in either All Creative or Editorial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) If you do a fresh search from the home page then the results returned depend upon your previous search, so if you were in Vital before you would see those, same for Ultimate, Foundation etc. This seems counter-intuitive to me, particularly as, depending upon the search terms of course, Vital will often have 0 results, same with Ultimate & Foundation. It is quite dispiriting to see that no images are returned for a particular search and it might not be immediately obvious why this is. Edited June 24, 2022 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shergar Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Alamy said: Hi All, Alamy made some changes to the website this week, as many of you have already noticed. We've made these changes to appeal to our creative customer base and it has meant that there is a slightly different look and way to navigate the site, with an additional four ready-made collections. All of the images are still there and users can still search in 'all' as they used to, to get the results they need and we are monitoring site usage closely to ensure we don’t see a drop in any key metrics. Unfortunately we weren't able to update you on the Forum earlier than this as any advance notification to contributors would not have been appropriate as we needed to protect the marketing plan we have in place for customers. We have seen your comments and the feedback is immensely useful, and we raise all technical issues with our IT team, so please bear with us. Please remember you are also free to email our Contributor Relations team contributors@alamy.com where we will help with any questions you may have. Thanks, Alamy What would you say to those of us that try to upload regularly and weekly when possible that have seen our views slashed . What would you say is the incentive that we should look at to keep uploading images. Shergar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I don't think I'm misrepresenting long-time contributors by saying that in the past the 'Sell for editorial use only' check-box in AIM has often just been used to emphasise that the contributor feels that, because of the the specific content, they don't want to risk it selling for any other application. The main bulk of their images might be eminently suitable for editorial but they haven't checked the box. In the new website this means that those images, suitable for editorial but without the 'Sell for editorial use only' box checked, will not be included under the new prominent Editorial section. This seems like a pretty major change in emphasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I imagine that you are aware of this but selecting to search just in 'Photographs' results in a lengthy wait and then a '504 Gateway Time-Out'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) I imagine that many people will gravitate towards searching 'All creative' so that they can see how many images are in Ultimate, Vital, Uncut & Foundation. Since there are often no images for a search in Ultimate then without scrolling down they will see a mainly blank screen with: There are no search results for the search term 'xxxx' in the Ultimate Collection. Please broaden your search or visit the other available collections. Promoting a collection as 'Ultimate' when there are often no images in it, and if there are it is difficult to see what might be 'Ultimate' about them might be counter-productive. Edited June 24, 2022 by Harry Harrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: This seems like a pretty major change in emphasis. Possibly/probably accidental??? Shame more testing wasn't done before this went live. Mark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: Promoting a collection as 'Ultimate' when there are often no images in it, and if there are it is difficult to see what might be 'Ultimate' about them might be counter-productive. That's a generous understatement.... Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) I feel sorry for those contributors who might now just miss out on the $250 sales required to keep their Gold status due to the recent changes Alamy made to their rank and the latest Alamy search page changes. It hardly seems fair to cut their commission rate in half as a result of things over which they have little control. Mark Edited June 24, 2022 by M.Chapman 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chexy Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: I imagine that many people will gravitate towards searching 'All creative' so that they can see how many images are in Ultimate, Vital, Uncut & Foundation. Since there are often no images for a search in Ultimate then without scrolling down they will see a mainly blank screen with: There are no search results for the search term 'xxxx' in the Ultimate Collection. Please broaden your search or visit the other available collections. Promoting a collection as 'Ultimate' when there are often no images in it, and if there are it is difficult to see what might be 'Ultimate' about them might be counter-productive. Alamy are unfortunately "owning the blank page" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Chexy said: Alamy are unfortunately "owning the blank page" No blank page anymore - Alamy have lost the plot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Was there a really an Alamy announcement at the end of business on a Friday evening. Classy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 hours ago, geogphotos said: Was there a really an Alamy announcement at the end of business on a Friday evening. Classy. Also, the "we couldn't advise before release". I have been in plenty of business where this is true, we still had the Announcement to our Partners ready for distribution AT TIME of release, with most times Q/A ready for the fronting staff to communicate the impact to PARTNERS..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb photos Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Harry Harrison said: I imagine that you are aware of this but selecting to search just in 'Photographs' results in a lengthy wait and then a '504 Gateway Time-Out'. Early today from the Alamy home page I selected All Images, then Photographs, and the search term Margaret Thatcher statue Grantham. This brought up 2 pages, with 3 of my 4 images near the top of page 1, and another lower down on page 1. I tried again minutes ago as earlier today. The search pulled up 1 page only with none of mine showing. I checked, they were still showing in my port. Searches I successfully made on Thursday for other known uploads now find nothing at all. Something very screwy is going on. I wonder how customers find anything they search for without throwing their computer out of the window. My wife undertook the same statue search on her phone just now and found one of my images 14 from the top. What is going on? A least Live news appears to be functioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just typed in the word GOLF into the search page... it found 49 photos ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Ace said: Just typed in the word GOLF into the search page... it found 49 photos ????? OK. My mistake, had it set on Creative... now I've got 342,000 ! Needs to be set on Editorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ace said: OK. My mistake, had it set on Creative... now I've got 342,000 ! Needs to be set on Editorial. I get 639,136 so Editorial is no good either. The problem is that as a client it is very hard or impossible to see where you are, how you got there and why you are getting so few and such weird results. wim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Alamy said: Unfortunately we weren't able to update you on the Forum earlier than this as any advance notification to contributors would not have been appropriate as we needed to protect the marketing plan we have in place for customers. All the more reason why the forum should not be viewable unless you are a logged-in contributor! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeRay Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 What intrigues me is that if you search from your dashboard using "all" you will get an entirely different set of images using the same criteria from the Alamy homepage ! Clearly still a work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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