Allan Bell Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Hi despite a search taking at least an hour on the internet and books I cannot find what the big winged insect is in this image. Can ayone tell me PLEASE. Allan Edited July 8, 2021 by Allan Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nigel Kirby Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Hi Allan it comes out as a Mosquito on Google Lens Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jerome Wilson Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Looks a lot like this Robber Fly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogmites_neoternatus https://bugguide.net/node/view/23918 I found it by snapping a shot of your picture with the Seek app. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Thank you Jerome for looking for me. The seek app sounds interesting. I do not have it. Looking at your links I am not convinced that it that bug colouring is different and they do not seem to have the long proboscis like the one above. You have given me another lead to follow so thanks for that. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nigel Kirby said: Hi Allan it comes out as a Mosquito on Google Lens Nigel Thanks Nigel. I will have a look at that line too. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Yes it is a Mosquito. Now to find it. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Martin L Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Don't think its a Mosquito, the antennae are much too small and it has quite a distinctive striped thorax, also a bit too big. For me its a Dagger Fly, family Empididae. Good luck on the species however, maybe Empis livida https://www.naturespot.org.uk/family/empididae Edited July 8, 2021 by Martin L removed my pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ed Rooney Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 That's a bug, Allan. So the Latin would be bugus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ed Rooney Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Martin is right, I think. Looks like the Balloon fly (Hilara maura). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Michael Ventura Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 No insect expert but that flying bug seems way too big to be a mosquito...tho I know they can get big in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Betty LaRue Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) That’s a Texas mosquito. Everything is bigger in Texas. When we lived there for a year, I had to tie my wrists and ankles to the bed to sleep, otherwise I’d have gotten carried off. It must’ve hopped a ride across the pond in someone’s luggage. Edited July 9, 2021 by Betty LaRue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Stokie Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 08/07/2021 at 18:54, Ed Rooney said: That's a bug, Allan. So the Latin would be bugus. ........or bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stokie said: ........or bugger. Yes! It is a B----r. Why do these flying insects all look so alike? I have to capitulate and agree that it does look more like a "Dagger fly" than a mossy. Sorry Nigel. Allan I now see that there are over 3000 species of empididae. Oh well here goes another sleepless night while I search for the correct one - if it's listed. You never know it might be a new species.😔 ITMA Edited July 9, 2021 by Allan Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Johnnie5 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Could be a type of Assassin Bug which seems to come in a wide variety of configurations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 hsessions Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I'll have a go. Empis nigricans? One on the top right. Looks a lot like your bug, a female: https://www.commanster.eu/Commanster/Insects/Flies/SpFlies/Empis.nigricans.html No bug, plant, bird or anything nature expert here, so, you know... Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cbimages Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) With that humpy back, my first thought was that it is a Robber Fly - at least that's the common name for them in Australia. Seems you do get them in UK. Carniverous eaters, and I sense it's eyeing off the green bug for dinner.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asilidae Edited July 10, 2021 by cbimages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 8 hours ago, hsessions said: I'll have a go. Empis nigricans? One on the top right. Looks a lot like your bug, a female: https://www.commanster.eu/Commanster/Insects/Flies/SpFlies/Empis.nigricans.html No bug, plant, bird or anything nature expert here, so, you know... Helen The closest yet. Thank you H. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Allan Bell Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Thank you everyone for your help with finding this little monsters type and name. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 spacecadet Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Johnnie5 said: Could be a type of Assassin Bug which seems to come in a wide variety of configurations. I think true bugs have wing-cases. Edited July 10, 2021 by spacecadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gvallee Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Allan, my advice to you: unless it's a super obvious one, you don't stand a chance to identify correctly an insect yourself, let alone on this forum. Not even at family level. I love doing macro of insects, I have over 1,800 on Alamy. I spent many hours with books, museums, experts trying to identify them. It's no easy job, you have to find the right people. I know you mentioned you're not on Facebook. Shame because there are expert groups for these subjects I'm sure. I am on it with top experts for spiders, frogs, snakes and birds. Also, in my experience, insects just don't sell on Alamy. Out of 1,800+, I only had 140 sales. So why do I do it? I love the challenge of finding them, photographing and actually identifying them. So my advice would be not to spend too long on this, nor to tag from the replies you've got so far, I would just try and license your shot as a generic image of a pretty flower with insects. Just my 2 cents. Gen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Martin L Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, gvallee said: Allan, my advice to you: unless it's a super obvious one, you don't stand a chance to identify correctly an insect yourself, let alone on this forum. Not even at family level. I love doing macro of insects, I have over 1,800 on Alamy. I spent many hours with books, museums, experts trying to identify them. It's no easy job, you have to find the right people. I know you mentioned you're not on Facebook. Shame because there are expert groups for these subjects I'm sure. I am on it with top experts for spiders, frogs, snakes and birds. Also, in my experience, insects just don't sell on Alamy. Out of 1,800+, I only had 140 sales. So why do I do it? I love the challenge of finding them, photographing and actually identifying them. So my advice would be not to spend too long on this, nor to tag from the replies you've got so far, I would just try and license your shot as a generic image of a pretty flower with insects. Just my 2 cents. Gen Sorry but I find this a bit patronising. Sure insects are difficult but you have no idea of anybody's expertise on this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gvallee Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Martin L said: Sorry but I find this a bit patronising. Sure insects are difficult but you have no idea of anybody's expertise on this forum. Certainly not meant to be. Was trying to be helpful, having years of experience of shooting insects and spent umpteenth hours on IDs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Martin L Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, gvallee said: having years of experience of shooting insects and spent umpteenth hours on IDs Fair enough, but you may not be alone in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gvallee Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Martin L said: Fair enough, but you may not be alone in this Sure, but to my mind, there is no difference with people coming to this forum for legal advice. People here are friendly, and will try and help. They might be right or they might be wrong. In the light of the new contract, it's particularly important to get IDs right. I see that you have wildlife and indeed some insects in your portfolio, so you will appreciate what I am saying. Allan got a variety of responses. How would he know who's an expert? He'll know I meant well anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 spacecadet Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, gvallee said: trying to be helpful Well you really just told him not to bother or rely on the forum! I've had a few identified here, my own efforts confirmed by John Richmond. Perhaps the variety of insects in the UK is different to what you're used to- maybe easier to identify? Anyway the dagger-fly identification looked pretty solid to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MDM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, gvallee said: In the light of the new contract, it's particularly important to get IDs right. The clause relating to accuracy of metadata has been there forever. It has undergone several modifications over the years but the key point is that this not new. You signed up to this years ago. I doubt that a misidentification of an animal or plant would lead to any problems for any contributor but it is certainly best not to guess if there are doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hi despite a search taking at least an hour on the internet and books I cannot find what the big winged insect is in this image.
Can ayone tell me PLEASE.
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