What Sells and Why?

[geogphotos]

1 hour ago, IKuzmin said:

How exactly are you doing this? I was able to find only a few, and even if they initially were invoiced by Alamy after my reporting, a good part of them later was refunded. As the result, if it increased the total, it was <10%.

 

My search string in Google looks like this:

"my name" "alamy" -site:pixels.com -site:alamy.com -site:alamy.es -site:alamy.it -site:alamy.de -site:alamyimages.fr -site:fotos.latinstock.com.mx

 

Would appreciate suggestions.

Ivan

 

 

Specialist companies such as Pixsy and others.

[Mr Standfast]

Not me with them red arrows. Not me with grammar either!🦔

[Dave Nelson]

5 hours ago, Michael Ventura said:

 

I honestly don't see the value of the red arrow, it doesn't accomplish much other than making the one who gives them feel something...whatever that is and I guess the recipient made to feel badly.  I am here to learn and have fun banter with my peers, if a post bothers me, I scroll on.  Not worth the emotional energy, too many other things going on in my life.

 

And yes, I do miss the smiley emoji too....sadly it got weaponized.

 

I think the red arrows are really childish.  They add no value to this forum.

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

16 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Are you chasing copyright infringements?

General Geo 💂🏻    💂🏻    💂🏻   

 

Yes, in past.  No, lately.
Regardless, I consider myself way
ahead wrt Infringement Game

 

~2018 out of court settlements

with multiple textbook publishers

for infringements previous years
~$230K net to me;

downside: some of them are
probably blackballing me, but...

Various one-off infringements pursued
by agencies, e.g. World of Stock
~$3.5K, others...

 

~2020 "Biden for Resident" infringement;

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-biden-resident-meme/
hundreds of infringements, only (1) commercial pursued

$239 net to me via Pixsy

 

& ever since monthly reports from Pixsy,
I forwarded lists to Pixsy employee
who always told me none were pursuable
then employee stopped responding, I have
history of dozens of agencies, now 2 primary,
so figuring out who's infringing complicated
& am not motivated to personally investigate
Pixsy listings as, frankly, thanks to Wall Street,

I am comfortable; after decades of being frugal,

need to learn how to spend rather than save...

maybe cruising...  Cheers, mate.

Edited April 3, 2023 by Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg

[Nodvandigtid]

5 hours ago, Dave Nelson said:

 

I think the red arrows are really childish.  They add no value to this forum.

Disagree Dave and we are both entitled to our opinions and just for the record I haven't posted any red arrows on this thread.

(But I think I understand why someone did). 

If there are things that someone doesn't like that person is freely entitled to put up a red arrow as much as people are free to put up a green one or other available emoji.  

[geogphotos]

5 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

General Geo 💂🏻    💂🏻    💂🏻   

 

Yes, in past.  No, lately.
Regardless, I consider myself way
ahead wrt Infringement Game

 

~2018 out of court settlements

with multiple textbook publishers

for infringements previous years
~$230K net to me;

downside: some of them are
probably blackballing me, but...

Various one-off infringements pursued
by agencies, e.g. World of Stock
~$3.5K, others...

 

~2020 "Biden for Resident" infringement;

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-biden-resident-meme/
hundreds of infringements, only (1) commercial pursued

$239 net to me via Pixsy

 

& ever since monthly reports from Pixsy,
I forwarded lists to Pixsy employee
who always told me none were pursuable
then employee stopped responding, I have
history of dozens of agencies, now 2 primary,
so figuring out who's infringing complicated
& am not motivated to personally investigate
Pixsy listings as, frankly, thanks to Wall Street,

I am comfortable; after decades of being frugal,

need to learn how to spend rather than save...

maybe cruising...  Cheers, mate.

 

 

Maybe the 'Life at Sea' 3 year cruise would suit you. Staring in Istanbul this November with a pick up in Miami. 135 countries will be visited and 7 of the world's 'Great Wonders'. At under $30k a year and only excursions to pay for it sounds an attractive price. 

 

Perhaps we could have a whip round?😃

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

1 hour ago, geogphotos said:

Maybe the 'Life at Sea'...under $30k a year

ah interesting, $30K / 365 = ~$83 / day = quite cheap = stock results net$$ easily covers it !!

but... STARTING at $30K = ??bottom floor over engine room rumble & tiny room??

& wifey won't go for it, she needs more like $200 / day 20-day itinerary + jet lag 2 nights before...

maybe (4) itineraries / year...stock net$$ results per trip takes ~5 years to cover trip..? Ta!

 

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

12 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

$200 / day 20-day itinerary + jet lag 2 nights before...
...stock net$$ results per trip takes ~5 years to cover trip..?

Correction: 2 of us, therefore ~10 years for an itinerary's

keepers to cover that itinerary's overhead...

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

20 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

...only (1) commercial pursued

$239 net to me via Pixsy

correction: $320US

[Marianne]

On 01/04/2023 at 15:22, geogphotos said:

 

Would you Adam and Eve it?

 

https://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/

 

 

Ian, I was completely confused by the reference, assuming you meant that he'd travel with his wife, and became even more confused when I clicked on the link, trying to figure out how in the world apples & pears rhymed (the first of the Cockney Rhymes listed).  Then, I clicked on a couple of the highlighted "rhymes" and I am no longer lost in translation ... you could say I'm a believer  (or a 🐵🐒🙉 uncle)

[Marianne]

On 02/04/2023 at 06:37, NYCat said:

I am curious why on earth that post got a red arrow. Maybe disliking submissions of ai content. I guess that is something I don't like but it's better to say so rather than giving a mysterious red arrow. I hate those things.

 

Paulette

 

 

 

On 02/04/2023 at 06:25, Aul Zitzke said:

Since the beginning in 2018 I sold a lot of font designs, especially gold and silver letters. In both agencies Adobe Stock and Alamy these were my best selling images. I never thought there would be such a great demand and so I went on making more and more font effects over the years. I have one silver alphabet which has been sold 743 times on Adobe Stock, there were daily downloads for a long time, sometimes twice a day and it is still selling nowadays. I also have a huge collection of single alphabet letters, on lucky days customers buy complete alphabet sets, which means I sell 26 licences for every 26 letters of the alphabet. 😊

 

I am rebuilding my portfolio on Alamy at the moment, many photos and illustrations haven´t been uploaded, yet and I´m curious about AI generated content, whether it sells or not.

 

Me too. He's answering the question asked by the OP and posing another completely legitimate one:

 

We can't put the genie back in the bottle with respect to AI. Since @Aul Zitzke  mentions he's on Adobe Stock, he may well be familiar with Adobe Firefly as many of us are in the beta test, and one of the things it does is generate interesting fonts. It's also much better with faces, at least in illustrations, than midjourney and DALL-E in my (albit limited) experience. 

 

As someone who has loved photography since childhood precisely because it could get me closer to my vision than a paintbrush could, being able to use AI as a starting point for illustrations can be fun. My digital drawing skills (and regular drawing skills) have improved, but my best illustrations often start out as photos. In that vein, I was using Adobe Firefly this week to make some fantasy characters for my grandson and they were much cuter and needed far less tweaking that those I've made with other AI engines. You are specifically prohibited from commercial use while it is in beta, but that may change once it's officially released.

 

Which leads back to the question posed by the OP: "What sells?" - I too am interested in whether AI generated work is selling here. Apparently there is a market for it.  And there are numerous files on Alamy, although looking at another thread where recent AI images were rejected, I'm wondering if Alamy is changing their minds or if they weren't uploaded as illustrations.

 

Don't get me wrong, AI scares me, since it's trying to write and make images, the creative skills I've honed over decades and two of the pursuits I enjoy most as a human being. It still takes work to make more than a novelty image at this point, both by perfecting your prompts and post-processing the image, but it keeps improving. We can't just ignore the next technological elephant in the room. A red arrow won't make it disappear. 

[Aul Zitzke]

On 06/04/2023 at 06:44, Marianne said:

 

 

 

 

Me too. He's answering the question asked by the OP and posing another completely legitimate one:

 

We can't put the genie back in the bottle with respect to AI. Since @Aul Zitzke  mentions he's on Adobe Stock, he may well be familiar with Adobe Firefly as many of us are in the beta test, and one of the things it does is generate interesting fonts. It's also much better with faces, at least in illustrations, than midjourney and DALL-E in my (albit limited) experience. 

 

As someone who has loved photography since childhood precisely because it could get me closer to my vision than a paintbrush could, being able to use AI as a starting point for illustrations can be fun. My digital drawing skills (and regular drawing skills) have improved, but my best illustrations often start out as photos. In that vein, I was using Adobe Firefly this week to make some fantasy characters for my grandson and they were much cuter and needed far less tweaking that those I've made with other AI engines. You are specifically prohibited from commercial use while it is in beta, but that may change once it's officially released.

 

Which leads back to the question posed by the OP: "What sells?" - I too am interested in whether AI generated work is selling here. Apparently there is a market for it.  And there are numerous files on Alamy, although looking at another thread where recent AI images were rejected, I'm wondering if Alamy is changing their minds or if they weren't uploaded as illustrations.

 

Don't get me wrong, AI scares me, since it's trying to write and make images, the creative skills I've honed over decades and two of the pursuits I enjoy most as a human being. It still takes work to make more than a novelty image at this point, both by perfecting your prompts and post-processing the image, but it keeps improving. We can't just ignore the next technological elephant in the room. A red arrow won't make it disappear. 

 

 

Hi Marianne,

 

no, I´m not using Adobe Firefly, yet. I did the font designs on my own, they are not made with generative AI. Greetings.

[Hazel]

This is very helpful.  Even if I'm not in Liverpool!  More flowers, spring bushes and trees, candid and still life shots.

[Dave Richards]

On 04/04/2023 at 00:07, Nodvandigtid said:

Disagree Dave and we are both entitled to our opinions and just for the record I haven't posted any red arrows on this thread.

(But I think I understand why someone did). 

If there are things that someone doesn't like that person is freely entitled to put up a red arrow as much as people are free to put up a green one or other available emoji.  

+1.

I’ve never used the red arrow before, but found a good reason to use one this morning (not in this thread).

Edited April 9, 2023 by Dave Richards
Corrected text

[NYCat]

I still think it's better to speak up. I sometimes don't have a clue. Sometimes I think the joking around isn't taken well but sometimes I truly don't know what the point is of the red arrow. But i have an odd sense of humor.

 

Paulette

[Allan Bell]

5 hours ago, NYCat said:

I still think it's better to speak up. I sometimes don't have a clue. Sometimes I think the joking around isn't taken well but sometimes I truly don't know what the point is of the red arrow. But i have an odd sense of humor.

 

Paulette

 

YES! If a red arrow is delivered it should be backed up with a statement explaining why it was given.

 

It should not be too difficult to make it compulsory.  ie If red arrow is ticked then box appears to fill in with reason and if not filled in red arrow is cancelled before it shows. Also the name of the perpetuator is auto filled in the box.

 

Allan

 

Edited April 9, 2023 by Allan Bell

[NYCat]

23 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

YES! If a red arrow is delivered it should be backed up with a statement explaining why it was given.

 

It should not be too difficult to make it compulsory.  ie If red arrow is ticked then box appears to fill in with reason and if not filled in red arrow is cancelled before it shows. Also the name of the perpetuator is auto filled in the box.

 

Allan

 

 

I fought the red arrows years and years ago when I thought they were driving people away. I spoke to James about it in person when Alamy was here in NYC and he wanted to continue them as an option. We did lose some valuable members at that time. People haven't gotten too carried away with them lately. Apparently the entertainment value of Jeff's posts is lost on some people. I don't think I agree that people can't be anonymous. When I am tempted to object to somebody I wouldn't want that person to retaliate. Not that I have ever given a red arrow. How could I after objecting so furiously? But it makes a big difference to have information about what is being objected to. It seems Jeff was addressing something to Edo when  someone else took offense. It's easy for that to happen when we are not communicating in person. Alamy can see who is giving the arrows and I think they occasionally ask someone to knock it off.

 

Paulette

 

Edited April 9, 2023 by NYCat

[giphotostock]

13 hours ago, NYCat said:

Apparently the entertainment value of Jeff's posts is lost on some people.

Paulette

May we all sell as many images as Jeff did over 30 years...

[Dave Richards]

On 09/04/2023 at 08:55, Dave Richards said:

+1.

I’ve never used the red arrow before, but found a good reason to use one this morning (not in this thread).

Just to be clear, the red arrow I dispensed was not done anonymously and it was in response to a post that I considered offensive and aimed at a much respected member of this forum. In this regard I consider red arrows serve a good purpose.

I would not use a red arrow simply because I had a difference of opinion with someone.

[NYCat]

57 minutes ago, Dave Richards said:

Just to be clear, the red arrow I dispensed was not done anonymously and it was in response to a post that I considered offensive and aimed at a much respected member of this forum. In this regard I consider red arrows serve a good purpose.

I would not use a red arrow simply because I had a difference of opinion with someone.

 

I would prefer to hear exactly what the offense was. I'm still not sure so I don't know if your arrow has had the effect intended. Not saying you should do that now but the red arrows seldom enlighten me. I take a guess and don't know if I'm right.

 

Paulette

[ColPer]

On 28/03/2023 at 17:46, JaniMarkus Hasa said:

I went through all my sales, categorized them and here goes:

 

1) Significant buildings (Parliament House, cathedrals, etc.)

2) People doing stuff (mostly candid)

3) Business estates

4) Signs

5) Plants and flowers

5) Cityscapes

When you say ‘people doing stuff,’ do you mark as editorial only? 

[NYCat]

I do, though it's not necessary.

 

Paulette

[JaniMarkus Hasa]

11 hours ago, ColPer said:

When you say ‘people doing stuff,’ do you mark as editorial only? 

 

Always. 

[Rebecca Ore]

12 hours ago, ColPer said:

When you say ‘people doing stuff,’ do you mark as editorial only? 

 

If you don't have releases.   People who sign releases and do stuff are often used in advertising.   See Tony and Chelsea Northrup's stock photography video on their channel for how amusing that can get. 

[Phillip]

On 09/04/2023 at 20:26, NYCat said:

I still think it's better to speak up. I sometimes don't have a clue. Sometimes I think the joking around isn't taken well but sometimes I truly don't know what the point is of the red arrow. But i have an odd sense of humor.

 

Paulette

Same here, then people look at me blankly