Tony Collins Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Two RF sales today for 2 cents each. My share a big fat zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Just had 2 more sales for $0 This is an absolute insult to our hard work. There should be a law passed to stop this blatant slave labour. So depressing! Edited September 21, 2022 by Marb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yackers1 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I've had three of these this morning with zero to me as well. Many photographers whinge about the low fees the micro sites pay but at least they are not giving away photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 the final insult should be that Alamy again will take no responsibility for the actions of the Distributors They Specifically chose to partner with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultanpepa Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Dear Alamy, You can't possibly expect us to give away our images for no recompense. When will you sort out this complete insult to your contributors? Fair pay for a fair days work and all that? Tell China to shape up or ship out. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixhome Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I very rarely complain to Alamy (which I have just done) and this is my first time on the thread so it's not all bad news - great to meet you all! I sold 18 pictures over night for $0.48 in total, averaging $0.026 each before distributor commission, alamy commission, exchange rate adjustment and tax. Is there any way to avoid being insulted like this? My only hope is that this is a relatively rare but regular event (it seems to happen every six months or so?). A real dampener on my day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultanpepa Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, nixhome said: I very rarely complain to Alamy (which I have just done) and this is my first time on the thread so it's not all bad news - great to meet you all! I sold 18 pictures over night for $0.48 in total, averaging $0.026 each before distributor commission, alamy commission, exchange rate adjustment and tax. Is there any way to avoid being insulted like this? My only hope is that this is a relatively rare but regular event (it seems to happen every six months or so?). A real dampener on my day. Will Alamy just bury its proverbial head deeper into the sand? Or will they eventually listen to complaints and rectify a wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinBrandon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I had 7 "sales" yesterday, with gross amount from .06 to .02. Leaving me with .02 to .00 per sale. How can they think this is a good idea. And if they are using a distributor to help them sale the images, then let them pay the distributor commission! They shouldn't sale any images at that price... but it they do, it should be a lot lower resolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tadman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Surely our contributor contract with Alamy is for them to use their best endeavours to Sell our images to the maximum benefit of both parties. if they are in effect ( with our without distributors) giving them away from the contributors perspective, or taking 100% of the proceeds they are surely in breach of contract? Where in the agreement are they permitted to do that? Common sense and equity should dictate that this is unacceptable by any reasonable assessment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGoodwin Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The same happened to me - two sales to China for 2 cents each, where Alamy took one cent and the distributor one leaving me with a big, fat zero! These were supposedly for editorial use in China, although they were not at all editorial-type images. This cannot continue! I have been an Alamy contributor since 2009 and the amounts for sales have declined dramatically over the years but to get nothing from a sale is beyond insulting. I wrote to Alamy asking them to restrict sales to China and eliminate anything where the contributor gets nothing or they will lose people fast. Alamy needs to do two things: 1) Allow contributors to opt out of sales to particular countries - China and Russia are first on my list; and 2) Eliminate all sales less than a dollar - it just isn't worth it for contributors for these low-value sales. Spending time making, keywording and uploading images so that someone else can make money while contributors get nothing is not sustainable. If anyone knows how to deactivate these sales in their Alamy accounts please let me know. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognyan Yosifov Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Measures still not updated today (minor insult) ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ognyan Yosifov said: Measures still not updated today (minor insult) ... Yep, I've noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Sultanpepa said: Will Alamy just bury its proverbial head deeper into the sand? Or will they eventually listen to complaints and rectify a wrong? They'll send out a tick box survey to find out how happy you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodvandigtid Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 In terms of business deals, ethics and simple morals how can any business justify this (or similar kinds of) deal. And in the contract, it states; 7.2. Alamy agrees to use its reasonable commercial endeavours to obtain reasonable Licence Fees. Let's be hearing from you Emily Shelley, James A or someone from PA/Alamy. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, geogphotos said: They'll send out a tick box survey to find out how happy you are. i guess the temperature today is Ice Cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerpower Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 10 sales to China for $0 income... Is that a joke ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkE Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Also had two of those today. I know I am on the fringe as far as Alamy are concerned as mainly editorial, but as this is less than micro stock rates, might as well go non-exclusive and try there for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribeiroantonio Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Nodvandigtid said: Let's be hearing from you Emily Shelley, James A or someone from PA/Alamy. Are you comfortably seated? The waiting time will be very long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avpics Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 13 hours ago, Ognyan Yosifov said: Measures still not updated today (minor insult) ... My uploads since Sunday have gone into QC and are still waiting. Are Alamy having an extended period of mourning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokie Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Avpics said: My uploads since Sunday have gone into QC and are still waiting. Are Alamy having an extended period of mourning? From the sounds of it, we the contributors are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) I no longer use my SLR with good lenses for stock. The phone comes out more these days. If they sell or give away my images, they are not worthy of me lugging heavy gear about. And when are we going to get a keep signed-in facility on these forums ? So frustrating. Edited September 22, 2022 by Marb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MDM Posted September 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) I don't normally join in these conversations as they are basically futile and terribly depressing if one is in that frame of mind. However I can feel the Alamy boat scraping the bottom (as in the title of the thread) and am wondering if it is now time to jump ship. I've hit my personal rock bottom so far with a sale (if you can call it that) for $1.33 of a rights managed image licensed for an unlimited duration "For editorial use on the customers Ireland based websites and social media". Well it dwarfs the Chinese sales which so far I've avoided but it is an incredible insult to me and my photography. The picture in question is special in terms of its aesthetic and technical quality and it took a lot of effort to take in the first place, not that that matters to anyone. I would prefer to give it away for a credit than be insulted in this manner. I really feel betrayed by Alamy. If they would only allow us to set a minimum price on our images that could help to resolve things -- fat chance it seems. The only option if one wants to avoid this treatment appears to be up and go, but that would be cutting one's nose to spite one's face, given the amount of work it takes to prepare and tag images. Any feeling of loyalty towards Alamy, which at one time was a big part of the whole scene here on the forum, is well and truly destroyed for me. Does that matter to Alamy? Almost certainly not it would seem. What a shame! Edited September 22, 2022 by MDM 2 1 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 My guess is that Alamy staff members are also appalled by some of the things that go on in the company. We should be clear that we are complaining about decisions, policies, and cock-ups* made by the company not by individuals simply doing their job who have no say in these matters. * Oxford comma used intentionally 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodvandigtid Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 hours ago, ribeiroantonio said: Are you comfortably seated? The waiting time will be very long. 🙊 No need to shout you might waken someone up. As Satchmo sang, "We have all the time in the world...." 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinBrandon Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I emailed Alamy, contributors@alamy.com, this is the reply We're aware that the sales you have seen through distribution have been quite lower than normal – this is because of a deal we have made with the distributor in China to secure business away from competitors in that specific market area. This was for images in accounts that were signed up for both Distribution in China and Novel use. We realise that once the commission has been taken into account, it has meant that the amount owed to you is very small. Therefore, we’re giving you the option to opt out of distribution in China and/or novel use early to avoid any future low sales. If you wish to opt-out of distribution in China, and novel use now (before April) please let us know. Thanks, 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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