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Just now, Michael Photo said:

 

I suspect people are waiting for Alamy to come back to us, as they said they would a few days ago.

Why do you find that so offensive?

I'm starting to believe you are nothing but a troll.

 

 

Offensive?

 

Pointless is a better word.

 

You seem unable to face reality. Move on. 

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Because the more red arrows you give me the more chance the magic fairy will come back and change the contract.

 

Sheesh.

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Hey guys, keep going with the red arrows and I feel sure you will get Alamy to change the contract.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Michael Photo said:

 

I suspect people are waiting for Alamy to come back to us, as they said they would a few days ago.

Why do you find that so offensive?

I'm starting to believe you are nothing but a troll.

 

From somebody who has managed 12 posts since 2006?

 

Such has been your concern.

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16 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

Hey guys, keep going with the red arrows and I feel sure you will get Alamy to change the contract.

 

 

 

Alamy have already said they are reviewing the contract.

 

Until they come back it's pointless going down the road of arguing with each other via red arrows and acrimony.

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Maybe a few hundred more red arrows will really get them to change the contract. 

 

Don't hold back

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3 minutes ago, AlbertSnapper said:

Yes.

Brentford beat Swansea 2-0.

 

 

 

Curious, as on outsider, would you rather cheer for a team  contender in Championship, or a team in the relegation zone of the Premiership nowadays? 

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4 minutes ago, meanderingemu said:

 

 

Curious, as on outsider, would you rather cheer for a team  contender in Championship, or a team in the relegation zone of the Premiership nowadays? 

I don't actually like, or follow, football. Or sport in general.

But if I have to, I would rather cheer for the underdog.

 

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2 minutes ago, AlbertSnapper said:

I don't actually like, or follow, football. Or sport in general.

But if I have to, I would rather cheer for the underdog.

 

 

thanks.  i guess i would have more fun following second or third tier leagues nowadays- i know in North American baseball in enjoy the minor leagues much more....  but i understand cheering for underdogs. 

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4 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Sheesh...people......just make your minds up and get on with it. 

 

Do what you got to do. End of.

 

People can make up their minds to wait for contract revisions, but if those aren't forthcoming before July 1, everyone who didn't resign will be under the new contract terms.  

 

Contract revisions show up before July 1, or they don't.  The clock either restarts when they present the revised contract, or it doesn't.  

 

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1 hour ago, geogphotos said:

Maybe a few hundred more red arrows will really get them to change the contract. 

 

Don't hold back

hmmm stay away from the red wine mate...

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12 hours ago, Keith Douglas said:

I have equipment and third party liability insurance to cover Stock Photography. There is other cover available (but I don't currently have it) for Professional Indemnity. I asked my insurer whether my existing policy, or the addition of the Professional Indemnity Policy would cover clause 5.1. The answer was no, as it looks like a 'hold harmless' agreement.

 

I really do think that if Alamy want cover for what is in the new 5.1, they should be taking out insurance or shouldering the risk themselves. It would then be in their interests to make sure that all parties complied with their obligations.

 

I am finding this post very helpful. Thank you.

 

Paulette

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10 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Hey guys, keep going with the red arrows and I feel sure you will get Alamy to change the contract.

 

 

 

You know that you're not forced to keep revisiting this forum thread, right?

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11 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Why don't the rest of you make your decision?

 

Don't care for 'bullying', you say?

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10 hours ago, meanderingemu said:

 

 

Curious, as on outsider, would you rather cheer for a team  contender in Championship, or a team in the relegation zone of the Premiership nowadays? 

 

It would depend on where I was sitting in the stadium.

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The commission for most of us is being cut by 10 % points ( 20% drop in income)

 

Others are having they commission cut to a paltry 20%.

 

We will continue to bare all the costs of producing images, editing them, preparing them for sale.

 

Alamy will, however it is worded, pass more responsibility for indemnifying themselves to us, thereby putting us at some level of increased financial risk.

 

Alamy will be increasing their share by 10% points ( 20% increase in income) for doing no more work and taking less responsibility.

 

In addition they will muscle in to a new area and prevent those with exclusive images from chasing their OWN copyright infringements.

 

Russell asks if I realise that posting is not compulsory. I do realise that as long as I stay within the rules I am free to post or not post as I wish. Come and go as I wish. Go 'off' one day, come back another. Nobody's business but mine.

 

I am free to post whatever opinion I have and if that is unpopular then that is fine with me. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

( NB John Morrison - didn't you get banned for breaking the rules about bullying?)

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5 minutes ago, geogphotos said:

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Russell asks if I realise that posting is not compulsory. I do realise that as long as I stay within the rules I am free to post or not post as I wish.

 

I am free to post whatever opinion I have and if that is unpopular then that is fine with me. 

 

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It's not that I'm objecting to your posts, it's that you seem inordinately wound up by the thread.

 

When I see a thread that pisses me off, I just stop visiting (and re-visiting) it. Life's too short.

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9 minutes ago, Russell Watkins said:

 

It's not that I'm objecting to your posts, it's that you seem inordinately wound up by the thread.

 

When I see a thread that pisses me off, I just stop visiting (and re-visiting) it. Life's too short.

 

 

I'm not particularly 'wound up' just puzzled/perplexed that people feel that they don't have enough information and that them writing about what Alamy 'should do ' or 'could do' is a lot less purposeful than discussing what Alamy actually are doing to us.

 

Alamy know precisely what they are doing and at whose expense.  This contract hasn't come from thin air. It is a grab. 

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5 minutes ago, Russell Watkins said:

 

OK, but many of us aren't as experienced as you and don't see all of the ramifications. Some of us are finding the discussion useful in crystallising our ideas even 80 pages in. Especially surrounding the legal shenanigans.

 

In fact, the commission cut doesn't feature in any decision I'm going to make. The legal stuff does.

 

I am sure I'm not alone.

 

 

Not bothered about a 20% pay cut?

 

I certainly am damn well bothered!

 

We have been told that the clause about idemnity is going to be clarified. It may be that Alamy are searching the forum for guidance on how to word it but I somehow doubt it. 

 

My guess would be that it is all part of an expectation management plan in the lead up to July 1st.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Russell Watkins said:

 

OK, but many of us aren't as experienced as you and don't see all of the ramifications. Some of us are finding the discussion useful in crystallising our ideas even 80 pages in. Especially surrounding the legal shenanigans.

 

In fact, the commission cut doesn't feature in any decision I'm going to make. The legal stuff does.

 

I am sure I'm not alone.

 

EDIT - and I'm not sure that Alamy "know precisely what they are doing". As I've said before, I suspect there's as much cock-up as conspiracy in the contract wording.

 

I already decided to take the cut last time they revised the commission structure, so the reduction this time doesn't affect me. 

But like you I am waiting for the revision, and unless there is a complete revision on clause 5 in particular I will be resigning by the 30th as I am not prepared to accept the new contract.

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