Jump to content

Best Photo Editing Program Other Than Adobe?


Recommended Posts

8 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

No, my Adobe problems are in both LrC and PS and I can't put any of the Adobe apps on my new Air. 

 

That makes no sense. Two simple questions.

 

1. Can you log into your Adobe account?

 

2.  Can you install other applications?

Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said:

Right, so that suggests that Ed has downloaded the Express version and is using the same licence key on both, timely information.

 

That makes sense, I guess. Only Edo knows for sure.

 

I found that if you delete the free "Express" version, all you have to do is hit the "download now"  button on the CapOne website again and you'll receive a new licensing key. It seems to be an automated process.

Edited by John Mitchell
Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, MDM said:

 

That makes no sense. Two simple questions.

 

1. Can you log into your Adobe account?

 

2.  Can you install other applications?

 

1. No

 

2. Yes

Link to post
Share on other sites

Why can’t you log in to your Adobe account? Forgotten password? 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ed, probably what has happened is that you can autofill passwords on your old machine. But the new machine would have to have them all entered anew before being able to autofill them again.

So your trying to install Adobe on the new machine, and you probably don’t have the password written down somewhere, and it won’t autofill.  Maybe you lost your passwords from the fire.

Mine are written down in a small notebook, but mostly they autofill for me.

If this happens to be your problem, possibly calling Adobe on the phone would resolve it.

 

Try this. If you can still access LR & PS on your old MacBook, go to the Adobe site, find your account information, and change your password. Not real sure if you can do it without inputting the old...most sites ask for the old, but I’ve not been on Adobe for awhile so I’m unsure.
If you are able to change it, write down the new password. Then you should be able to use the new password on your new computer to access your account, and download the software.

If Adobe requires the old password to enable you to change it, and you don’t have it, then call Adobe and see if they can get you out of your pickle.

Added:

Shoot. Just tried it and they do require the old. 
But...maybe not!

https://helpx.adobe.com/manage-account/using/change-or-reset-password.html

Edited by Betty LaRue
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

I just got stopped when I tried to activate Cap One on my new Air. The message said I can't have it on two computers. I'll have to think about that. 

 

A question: Can I do all the basic stuff to get a snap ready for Alamy on ether Affinity or Cap Pro alone? 

 

It appears Capture One changed their activation rules in November 2020, just after I installed Capture One Express for Sony on my computer. I'm pretty sure at that time there was the option of installing it on two computers, but the current info indicates only one activation for the Express version which I just read here:

https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002734558-How-many-computers-can-I-install-Capture-One-on-

Sorry I didn't realise this before Ed.

 

You could do everything in Affinity, but the RAW processing from what I've read is not as good as Capture One. Having said that, it is not expensive, so you could give it a try and see if the RAW processing looks ok for you. You would be able to do all the basics in Capture One Pro.

 

While probably a simplification from someone who is a non-Adobe user, I think Affinity would be more like using Photoshop and Capture One like Lightroom. I am currently using them together in a way that I imagine is similar to people using the Lightroom/Photoshop combo. If I had the Pro rather than Express version of Capture One, I may not have purchased Affinity. But now I have Affinity, I quite like it. Affinity can also do stitched panoramas which Capture One Pro cannot.

 

Of course, if you could get Adobe up and running again it is what you are used to (and may be worth following up Betty's suggestion above if it can fix the problem), but the divorce may be finalised!

Edited by Sally R
Link to post
Share on other sites

I just typed out a long answer to most of your questions . . . and before I could post it, it disappeared. Am I paranoid? You bet I am.

 

I know my Adobe ID and password, Michael. They would not let me use it or change it on my new M1 Air.

 

Call them, Betty? Impossible! And I was online with them all day Friday, from after breakfast until late afternoon—got disconnected 3 times. At this point, to me, Adobe is like Lubbock, Texas—something in my rearview mirror.

 

We have drifted off subject here. Please read my headline. You all have been asking about things that are in posts like Need a new iMac, and Good day, and Bad day. Sally Down Under and John on the Pacific Coast gave me the answer I was looking for. I have/had Capture One Express Sony. When I try to sign in, they give me the same code number. I’ve deleted the program on my older Pro, but I can’t sign in with or without it on the M1 Air.

 

I’m sitting here alone in Nomadland. There’s no one at my elbow to see if I do things right. Even the now-invisible Genius Bar people screwed up in handling my problem at Apple.

 

But I’ve taken a path and I will prevail.

 

Thanks, all.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I managed to install Capture One Pro Sony for a test month. I will buy it, but didn't want to mess with more details and decisions right now. Just poking around, I was able to edit a new RAW image and save it to my desktop as a jpeg. Later, after deleting Adobe, I will see if I can install it on my Pro.

 

So . . . so far so good.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Edo, This thread is very interesting and I hope you don't mind me butting in here as I would like to ask a question of those using the free Capture One Express for Sony software?     Thank you.

 

A word about my processing first. I use LRC subscription version, only because I bought a camera that my perpetuity licence LR could not handle, and am happy with it as it does all I want INCLUDING adding keywords etc to images all in the same place. BUT do not like paying the subscription.

 

I have the free Capture One Express for Sony software loaded on my machine but only have had a cursory look at it when I loaded it. This was recently updated to the latest version but still languishes on the computer unseen and unused.

 

My question is can titles and keywords be added to images in C1E for Sony and will the appropriate boxes on Alamy be populated with the keywording etc.

 

Sorry Edo.

 

Allan

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nobody has mention DxO Photolab which is what I would switch to if I was to ever stop using Adobe software. There is a trial version and you would find some familiarity as it uses the U-Point technology which you have mentioned in the past in relation to the Nik Collection (also now owned by DxO). I bought it cheap on a Black Friday offer a few years ago and it is very good as well as being cheaper than CaptureOne as far as I know. 

 

Sidebar your honour: As far as mentioning Adobe is concerned, well I am intrigued as to why you can't even log on to your account from the M1 Mac. For one thing you will need to do this from one of your Macs in order to cancel the subscription. It is especially intriguing as you were able to use it on your M1 Mac before the lockout occurred (another mystery). I have never heard of anything like this before (not being able to og on to the account unless it has been locked due to unauthorised access attempts) and I am genuinely curious as to why this should happen. I wonder if it is due to you having moved around so your Adobe ID is registered in a different country - Spain or the USA - as the charges for the subscription are different depending on where you purchase and I presume you have to keep Adobe updated. Why am I curious? Well that is just me and it would be really interesting to know what is going on for future reference (for example, if I ever move country).

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

 

I’m sitting here alone in Nomadland. There’s no one at my elbow to see if I do things right. Even the now-invisible Genius Bar people screwed up in handling my problem at Apple.

 

But I’ve taken a path and I will prevail.

 

Thanks, all.

 

I've found that people in the Apple store don't know photography most of the time. I was trying to be helpful in a small class on the iPhone camera when the "teacher" didn't know what the camera actually did when set at HDR. He was one of those guys who can't even hear women... let alone an old lady ...so no one was the wiser when I was ignored. That said, I am happy to say I"ve usually had good people and I feel lucky to live in walking distance from two Apple stores.

 

Paulette

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

No problem at all, Allan.

 

Michael, I've been dealing with my many problems. Poco a poco. I'll give some thought to your questions and get back to you. 

 

Paulette, I hear you. But my problem was with my week-old M1 Air, not photography, not adobe, and not any apps. The MacBook would not accept my sign-in with either touch or password. 

 

It's spring and sunny, and I was just out for a casual walkabout.  

Edited by Ed Rooney
Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

I know my Adobe ID and password, Michael. They would not let me use it or change it on my new M1 Air.

Just a whacky thought. Was your previous Mac sourced in a different country and now you have a new MacBook Air with a UK language keyboard? Also does your Adobe password contain some special characters e.g. $. If so, worth double checking when you enter your Adobe login that it looks correct by clicking the reveal password button (eyeball symbol).

Apologies if you've already done this, or I have the wrong end of the stick.

 

You have my sympathies. It does seem that you've had a major "butterfly effect" where something potentially quite small goes wrong and then causes a whole pile of disruption as the ripples spread.

 

Mark

Edited by M.Chapman
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, MDM said:

Nobody has mention DxO Photolab

I will now - I usually do when this kind of topic comes up. I use it as my main RAW converter, it is excellent and does have basic tools for cloning dust spots. I don't have the latest version - I generally skip a version when upgrading unless there is something major. DxO have sales regularly that give 30-40% off the price.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Let me take a minute and dispel the foreign-births theory. I bought and unboxed the M1 MacBook Air on 14 April 2021, less then 2 weeks ago. I opened it, got it working, and uploaded the apps I use -- including Adobe CC, and PhotoShop, Lightroom Classic, and Bridge. There were no problems. Everything was working fine. A week later the Air refused to allow me to sign on. It would not accept my Touch ID or take a password. Understand? I have been signing in and using Adobe CC since CC began. I've done that in NYC, Mexico, Spain, Ireland, and here. Since the CC apps sit on your computer, only sending pics to Alamy requires the Internet. 

 

I used to make use of the Nik Collection. If I can get DxO with Nik, I will probably do so. But I'm not in a rush. I have 2 new programs to learn.

 

In case you are wondering about my casual attitude to spending, let me (partly) explain. In Liverpool, I can live on my small income, half of the normal US Social Security and a half pension from Time Warner. I sold my rent stabilised lease on Mulberry Street for good money. And I've gotten 3 corvid payments from the US Government. But ultimately, I will not be spending any of that on my computer or stock photo needs.

 

On my wrist sits what has become a very valuable collector's watch, the original Rolex GMT Master. I plan to sell it and use the money for kit and travel to produce stock for as long as I'm able to do so. 

 

 

 

Edited by Ed Rooney
Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Allan Bell said:

Edo, This thread is very interesting and I hope you don't mind me butting in here as I would like to ask a question of those using the free Capture One Express for Sony software?     Thank you.

 

A word about my processing first. I use LRC subscription version, only because I bought a camera that my perpetuity licence LR could not handle, and am happy with it as it does all I want INCLUDING adding keywords etc to images all in the same place. BUT do not like paying the subscription.

 

I have the free Capture One Express for Sony software loaded on my machine but only have had a cursory look at it when I loaded it. This was recently updated to the latest version but still languishes on the computer unseen and unused.

 

My question is can titles and keywords be added to images in C1E for Sony and will the appropriate boxes on Alamy be populated with the keywording etc.

 

Sorry Edo.

 

Allan

 

Hi Allan. You can add keywords and a title in the metadata panel in Capture One Express. This panel is under the "i" info button. I am probably an oddball in that I have been doing all my keywording and captioning in Alamy Image Manager, I think because I'm just contributing to the one stock library and it hasn't seemed really necessary to keyword beforehand. But actually, it probably makes sense to do so and saves time later.

 

It's almost midnight here so I won't try it now, but I will add a title and keywords in Capture One with my next upload and can confirm for you that they populate the appropriate boxes in AIM. I am 99.9% sure they would.

 

You may find the lack of perspective correction and selective editing tools a bit frustrating in Capture One Express after using Lightroom, but for images where those things don't matter you could certainly start using CO Express to see if you find it intuitive and like it. I'm managing to complete any additional tasks not possible in CO Express in Affinity Photo. You could do the same by exporting a TIFF and opening it in Photoshop. When I eventually get a new computer I may get Capture One Pro, which will be able to do these additional tasks (though some problems are reported with CO's perspective correction tool, so may keep using Affinity for that, and will also need Affinity for panorama stitching which I'm yet to experiment with).

Link to post
Share on other sites

I do my keywords and captions in the Alamy Image Manager too, Sally. I like to have a separation between left-brain work and right-brain work. I just uploaded Capture One Pro.

Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

Let me take a minute and dispel the foreign-births theory. I bought and unboxed the M1 MacBook Air on 14 April 2021, less then 2 weeks ago. I opened it, got it working, and uploaded the apps I use -- including Adobe CC, and PhotoShop, Lightroom Classic, and Bridge. There were no problems. Everything was working fine. A week later the Air refused to allow me to sign on. It would not accept my Touch ID or take a password. Understand? I have been signing in and using Adobe CC since CC began. I've done that in NYC, Mexico, Spain, Ireland, and here. Since the CC apps sit on your computer, only sending pics to Alamy requires the Internet. 

 

I used to make use of the Nik Collection. If I can get DxO with Nik, I will probably do so. But I'm not in a rush. I have 2 new programs to learn.

 

In case you are wondering about my casual attitude to spending, let me (partly) explain. In Liverpool, I can live on my small income, half of the normal US Social Security and a half pension from Time Warner. I sold my rent stabilised lease on Mulberry Street for good money. And I've gotten 3 corvid payments from the US Government. But ultimately, I will not be spending any of that on my computer or stock photo needs.

 

On my wrist sits what has become a very valuable collector's watch, the original Rolex GMT Master. I plan to sell it and use the money for kit and travel to produce stock for as long as I'm able to do so. 

 

 

 

I’m hoping you aren’t wearing that gold mine of a watch when you are out and about. Or if you are, it’s covered by your sleeve. You’re shivering my timbers.

Link to post
Share on other sites
54 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

 It would not accept my Touch ID or take a password. Understand?

 

 

 

 

Actually I understand it happened but I don't understand why and that is the important thing so as you know what to do if it happens again. It makes no sense at all. Nor does not being able to sign in to your Adobe account. It makes absolutely no sense to me which is why I offered the foreign birth explanation. But I will leave you alone to your devices from here on Ed. I have only been trying to help you get to the bottom of it out of goodwill but enough is enough for me. Good luck.

 

Edited by MDM
  • Upvote 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't understand it either. And I fear it's a defect in the computer. It's working now. But it worked fine for a week, until it didn't. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Was it just the Apple account that wouldn't accept your touch ID / Password, or was it the MacBook so you couldn't even get the MacBook to do anything at all?

 

Mark

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said:

I’m hoping you aren’t wearing that gold mine of a watch when you are out and about. Or if you are, it’s covered by your sleeve. You’re shivering my timbers.

In Liverpool, the criminals would assume it was a knock off, not a genuine one.

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, MDM said:

Sidebar your honour: As far as mentioning Adobe is concerned, well I am intrigued as to why you can't even log on to your account from the M1 Mac. For one thing you will need to do this from one of your Macs in order to cancel the subscription. It is especially intriguing as you were able to use it on your M1 Mac before the lockout occurred (another mystery). I have never heard of anything like this before (not being able to og on to the account unless it has been locked due to unauthorised access attempts) and I am genuinely curious as to why this should happen. I wonder if it is due to you having moved around so your Adobe ID is registered in a different country - Spain or the USA - as the charges for the subscription are different depending on where you purchase and I presume you have to keep Adobe updated. Why am I curious? Well that is just me and it would be really interesting to know what is going on for future reference (for example, if I ever move country).

 

 

I've moved country, but still have my US Adobe products and use a US address, and a US credit card to pay for them.   Suggest that Edo log into his Adobe account on the website.  If he can't do that, then I dunno.  But if he can, he should check for accounts that predate the current two machines.   Or see if he's cancelled the account of the Spanish machine that the Apple Store in the UK took in trade. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.