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5 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

 

I spoke to my rental agent today. I hope to get a new place and move in in June. We'll see. 

I hope that happens. You’re due for something positive to happen.

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23 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Afraid I can't give you a definitive answer on that, Allan, as I prefer to do my keywording using another program (Photo Mechanic). I'll experiment with an image and let you know. Mind you, these days it is taking me ages to get anything uploaded, so don't hold your breath. I generally use PTLens, which I believe you're familiar with, for correcting verticals when necessary. It's so simple to use that even I can figure it out. Otherwise, C1 Express 4 So-knee has just about everything else I need for RAW conversion.

 

Hi John, Yes I am familiar with PTLens but have not used it for some time now. I remember telling someone on the Alamy forums that when it is used to correct an image it produces a border which needs to be cropped off all sides or it will probably fail QC when loading to Alamy.

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16 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

 

I wasn't trying to knee-dle you. Honest. 😉

 

John, didn't we have each other's email? I can't find your's. 

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17 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

Hi John, Yes I am familiar with PTLens but have not used it for some time now. I remember telling someone on the Alamy forums that when it is used to correct an image it produces a border which needs to be cropped off all sides or it will probably fail QC when loading to Alamy.

 

Yes, PTLens can produce an annoying border if you do a lot of heavy CA corrections. I don't use it for that any longer. It's fine for correcting verticals, though -- i.e. no borders.

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15 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

 

John, didn't we have each other's email? I can't find your's. 

 

Yes, I believe that I still have yours. I'll send you an e-mail.

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3 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Yes, PTLens can produce an annoying border if you do a lot of heavy CA corrections. I don't use it for that any longer. It's fine for correcting verticals, though -- i.e. no borders.

 

I remember the details now thanks.

 

Allan

 

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4 minutes ago, Allan Bell said:

 

I remember the details now thanks.

 

Allan

 

 

I used to use PTLens for CA correction before I had a RAW processor that did it automatically. It was easy enough to crop off the skinny borders but also easy to miss them.

 

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46 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

 

Yes, I believe that I still have yours. I'll send you an e-mail.

 

Thank you

 

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On 26/04/2021 at 20:53, Allan Bell said:

Thanks Sally. As they say in Australia. "No worries".  At least that is what we hear on the TV ads over here.🙃

 

Allan

 

OH! I see you did say that at the beginning of your post.🤪

 

ITMA

 

Hi Allan, just letting you know I just uploaded some images and I put the keywords and a title on one of them in Capture One beforehand. While they are in QC I can't click on that photo to see if the caption and keywords are populated in AIM. But they usually take about 24 hours to pass, so will let you know after that. Will probably be Friday morning Perth, Australia time now as they'll probably pass while I'm asleep Thursday night. Will let you know probably on what will be Thursday evening your time (I think!).

 

Yes, people do say "no worries" here all the time, including myself. It's kind of like a relaxed way of saying everything is good and fine, and often people say it instead of "you're welcome" when someone thanks them for something.

 

I love hearing the different words people use in different parts of the world, including the ones that pop up here on the Alamy forum.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Sally R said:

 

Hi Allan, just letting you know I just uploaded some images and I put the keywords and a title on one of them in Capture One beforehand. While they are in QC I can't click on that photo to see if the caption and keywords are populated in AIM. But they usually take about 24 hours to pass, so will let you know after that. Will probably be Friday morning Perth, Australia time now as they'll probably pass while I'm asleep Thursday night. Will let you know probably on what will be Thursday evening your time (I think!).

 

Yes, people do say "no worries" here all the time, including myself. It's kind of like a relaxed way of saying everything is good and fine, and often people say it instead of "you're welcome" when someone thanks them for something.

 

I love hearing the different words people use in different parts of the world, including the ones that pop up here on the Alamy forum.

 

 

 

Many thanks for the update Sally.  Yes the world is rich in the spoken word, even when you, or I, cannot understand what is being said.

 

Allan

 

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Many thanks for the update Sally.  Yes the world is rich in the spoken word, even when you, or I, cannot understand what is being said.

 

Allan

 

When I was in Bhutan we went to a small festival at a remote village. I was sitting next to an elderly man who could not speak English and I could not speak any of the languages spoken in Bhutan. Nonetheless, we had the best conversation talking to each other in our own languages while laughing because we knew we couldn't understand each other's words but we understood the gestures and good will. He was so warm and friendly and it was so entertaining we were rollicking in semi-hysterics. The younger people in Bhutan speak in English, but the older ones in the more remote areas not necessarily. I met the most beautiful people there. Would love to go back there one day if it is ever possible.

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Sony still offers its own free RAW development software, now called Imaging Edge.

 

I used the original version of this converter when I bought my first Sony DSLR in 2007. It was called Sony Image Data Converter back then and, while basic, it wasn't bad at all. I have lots of images on Alamy that were processed with it. However, I haven't tried the latest incarnation, which looks a lot fancier than the old one.

 

 

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I got the Adobe CC apps up and working on my M1 MacBook Air. Don't ask! I have a dozen pressing issues at the moment and all must be dealt with in the next few days. I'm very stressed. I got 3 of them done today, so only 9 left. Tomorrow I hope to solve 3 more. They are not all computer related problems.

 

I will not be buying Capture One Pro, as good as I think it is. I did buy Affinity Photo, but I have not had time to deal with it yet. AP was on sale and not expensive. CapOne is on the free month. It's too expensive. When I have time, I want to see about getting Nik Collection again. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

 

I got the Adobe CC apps up and working on my M1 MacBook Air. Don't ask!

 

 

 

Adding 2+2 from the cryptic post about keywords (which is what confused me) in the other thread, I'm guessing it was a password problem although you did say you knew your Adobe login details so maybe not. If that is the case, you definitely shoulda asked Ed. I could have saved you a lot of messing about. Best of luck with the other problems and do see that tip I left in the other thread about Mac login password recovery. 

 

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On 28/04/2021 at 23:42, Allan Bell said:

Many thanks for the update Sally.  Yes the world is rich in the spoken word, even when you, or I, cannot understand what is being said.

 

Allan

 

Hi Allan. I can report back that the keywords I added in Capture One populated in AIM.

 

What did not populate, however, was the title/caption. I think this is because I have used the wrong field in the metadata tab in Capture One. I put it in "Title" under IPTC -Status. Possibly it was meant to be in "Headline" under IPTC - Content.

 

To make things more confusing there is also an IPTC - Getty Images category, suggesting some type of integration with that??? Not sure if this would integrate with other stock agencies or how it is meant to work. However, there are no field options showing to fill in for that, at least not in my Express version of CO.

 

So I can say keywords go across no problem into AIM, but will have to wait until my next upload to find out if the "Headline" option works for the caption.

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4 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

I got the Adobe CC apps up and working on my M1 MacBook Air. Don't ask! I have a dozen pressing issues at the moment and all must be dealt with in the next few days. I'm very stressed. I got 3 of them done today, so only 9 left. Tomorrow I hope to solve 3 more. They are not all computer related problems.

 

I will not be buying Capture One Pro, as good as I think it is. I did buy Affinity Photo, but I have not had time to deal with it yet. AP was on sale and not expensive. CapOne is on the free month. It's too expensive. When I have time, I want to see about getting Nik Collection again.

 

Glad it is up and running for you again Ed 👍  You probably won't have a need for Affinity now you have Photoshop back. Hope things keep improving, not just with computers, but with fire alarms and living arrangements!

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4 hours ago, Sally R said:

What did not populate, however, was the title/caption. I think this is because I have used the wrong field in the metadata tab in Capture One. I put it in "Title" under IPTC -Status. Possibly it was meant to be in "Headline" under IPTC - Content.

Hi Sally, from what I've seen Capture One seems to have very comprehensive coverage of both standard and extended IPTC fields together with EXIF fields (display only) but it doesn't seem to be backed up by very good help pages to describe how to use them (or perhaps I haven't found them). You actually need to use the IPTC 'Description' field for your Alamy caption and then it will come in fine. 

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13 hours ago, MDM said:

 

Adding 2+2 from the cryptic post about keywords (which is what confused me) in the other thread, I'm guessing it was a password problem although you did say you knew your Adobe login details so maybe not. If that is the case, you definitely shoulda asked Ed. I could have saved you a lot of messing about. Best of luck with the other problems and do see that tip I left in the other thread about Mac login password recovery. 

 

 

Strangely, the Adobe password found on both my MacBooks is the same one that didn't work a week ago. ??? But having a way to check my IDs and passwords is a revelation, and I thank you for that. There were other problems as well. It would be impossible for me to say what I did step by step—'poke around' is how I think of it. Last night, I tried to set up Apple on the Air to get an app from the Apple Store. It wouldn't take the Apple password I have on my Pro. ???

 

Anyway, I have no time for exotic computer problems today. 

 

And Sally: What I find strange about Affinity is the terms for things they use; it's a language I don't understand. CapOne is better that way. 

 

Edo

 

PS: I managed to change my Apple password. It was not 'easy.' They must have waltzed me around with 20 questions, back and forth on my Air. and my iPhone. There was a time when these apps served us; now we served them. When this stuff works, it's great. When it doesn't, it's a nightmare. 

 

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8 hours ago, Sally R said:

 

Hi Allan. I can report back that the keywords I added in Capture One populated in AIM.

 

What did not populate, however, was the title/caption. I think this is because I have used the wrong field in the metadata tab in Capture One. I put it in "Title" under IPTC -Status. Possibly it was meant to be in "Headline" under IPTC - Content.

 

To make things more confusing there is also an IPTC - Getty Images category, suggesting some type of integration with that??? Not sure if this would integrate with other stock agencies or how it is meant to work. However, there are no field options showing to fill in for that, at least not in my Express version of CO.

 

So I can say keywords go across no problem into AIM, but will have to wait until my next upload to find out if the "Headline" option works for the caption.

 

Thank you for taking the time to check this out Sally.

 

It would appear that Harry has the answer by putting the caption in the "Description field".

 

Allan

 

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2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

 

Strangely, the Adobe password found on both my MacBooks is the same one that didn't work a week ago. ??? But having a way to check my IDs and passwords is a revelation, and I thank you for that. There were other problems as well. It would be impossible for me to say what I did step by step—'poke around' is how I think of it. Last night, I tried to set up Apple on the Air to get an app from the Apple Store. It wouldn't take the Apple password I have on my Pro. ???

 

Anyway, I have no time for exotic computer problems today. 

 

And Sally: What I find strange about Affinity is the terms for things they use; it's a language I don't understand. CapOne is better that way. 

 

Edo

 

PS: I managed to change my Apple password. It was not 'easy.' They must have waltzed me around with 20 questions, back and forth on my Air. and my iPhone. There was a time when these apps served us; now we served them. When this stuff works, it's great. When it doesn't, it's a nightmare. 

 

 

Ok good you seem to have it sorted. The checks are to prevent security breaches which are a real problem in out digital world so, while annoying, are generally a good thing. Make sure it is working on all your devices and then, when time allows, follow my advice in the other thread about using Apple ID to reset your login password if you can if it is not already set up. Also make sure your system software stays up to date. 

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7 hours ago, Harry Harrison said:

Hi Sally, from what I've seen Capture One seems to have very comprehensive coverage of both standard and extended IPTC fields together with EXIF fields (display only) but it doesn't seem to be backed up by very good help pages to describe how to use them (or perhaps I haven't found them). You actually need to use the IPTC 'Description' field for your Alamy caption and then it will come in fine. 

 

Thanks very much Harry!

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5 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

And Sally: What I find strange about Affinity is the terms for things they use; it's a language I don't understand. CapOne is better that way.

Yes I understand what you mean Edo. You have to delve deeper with Affinty to figure out what the terms mean and how they relate to different functions.

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On 25/04/2021 at 19:29, John Mitchell said:

What is sadly missing in the free Express version is a "keystone" adjustment tool.

 

Hi John, I have been looking on line at instructions for Capture One 21 Express and it appears that they now have a keystone correction tool. Maybe you are still using 20 Exp.

 

Allan

 

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