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ON1 Photo RAW 2021 looks good. And inPixio Photo Studio 10 Mac might be okay too. What else? And are there Alamy people who use these things? 

 

A question I can't get google to answer is do they have a RAW to jpeg convertor? 

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Thanks, Mark -- that's on my list. I'm reading and watching reviews. Affinity Photo, inPixio, Exposure X6 look good too. I'm giving up on Adobe.

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Hi Ed,

 

I trialled On1 Photo Raw last year. It looked promising as an all-in-one package, but I ended up not being able to achieve what I wanted.

 

Specifically, although On1 said they have a profile for the Sony RX100 VA (that I use), this did not in reality work. Thus, despite selecting that I wanted the profile applied, the RX100 files came out extremely distorted and extremely fiddly and difficult to do anything about. I emailed On1's technical support about this and never received a reply. In addition, chromatic aberration was not automatically corrected as I expected it to be. I found this to be the case with the RX100 and also with a Sigma lens I use with my Nikon that On1 say that have a profile for, but in reality it didn't work and I had to do the CA corrections manually.

 

I just thought I'd mention those things as I know you shoot with the RX100. Possibly their profiles work better now. I would highly recommending trialling the software if you are considering buying it so you can see if these problems are still present.

 

For my RX100 I use Capture One Express for Sony. It is free and it handles the RX100 RAW files with ease and it is easy to then export a JPEG. However, the free Express version has a few limitations such as not being able to do perspective corrections and selective (non-global) edits such as removing a distracting element in the frame. I now have Affinity Photo so I export a TIFF from Capture One and can do these additional tasks on the TIFF in Affinity. You can then export as a JPEG from Affinity.

 

The RAW processing in Capture One is very good. In fact, at first I thought it was a bit weird as the RAW file comes out semi-popping with more colour and life in them than I was used to with RAW files. I quite like this now and it has created a quick workflow for me.

 

So the free Capture One Express for Sony and the perpetual license with Affinity work out a very cheap option if you are looking to move from Adobe. If you really liked Capture One you can get the full version, either for Sony specifically or the one for all camera brands. That is quite expensive though, but you do have the option of a perpetual license if you don't want a subscription.

 

In any case, I would trial anything you are considering to find out if it works for you. I haven't used Adobe so I can't comment on how these software compare with that.

 

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Thank you so much, Sally. I'm wondering how long age you were using On1 Photo RAW? And I'm not looking for the cheapest system; I need something that works. Capture One Express for Sony sounds interesting. And Affinity. Hmm.

 

I don't think Mark uses little Sonys. ???

 

Oh, sorry, Sally -- you said you tried On 1 a year ago . . . about the last time I was sane.

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23 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

Thanks, Mark -- that's on my list. I'm reading and watching reviews. Affinity Photo, inPixio, Exposure X6 look good too. I'm giving up on Adobe.

 

ACDSee for Mac uses Apple's RAW processing engine. As a result basic slider adjustments are extremely fast and interactive. Images don't need to be imported before they are worked on. The main issue I had when I tried it was that the healing brush was quite slow and "clunky" compared to PS. It's not the same level of editor as PS (far fewer capabilities) but it seemed pretty good. I'm sticking with LR+PS but am always keen to keep an eye on non-subscription alternatives.

 

I do use a litle Sony RX100 MkIII, but haven't tried with ON1. But I did find ON1's lens distortion correction was poor with Canon G15 images. If I recall correctly they use the open source crowd-sourced "lensfun" database of corrections. Not all of them are good.

 

Mark

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I was using On 1 in September/October last year. As Capture One Express for Sony is free you certainly have nothing to lose by trying it. Affinity still have a 50% special on at the moment but I don't know for how much longer. I managed to get mine on the special for $38.99 Australian dollars.

 

Capture One I've picked up fairly easily and have been able to learn by playing with it to see what happens, only occasionally having to google to find out how to do something. The full pro version is more powerful with more features and so would involve a bit more learning.

 

Affinity is complex in what it can do so I have had to spend a bit more time watching tutorials to figure out how to do certain tasks, but once you've learned the task it's fine (though I still have to sometimes go back to tutorials to remember the steps for things I don't do often).

 

But I'm sure there are other good software possibilities out there too and others may have some good suggestions.

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I Use Adobe Lightoom for my catalogue and basic editing and Photoshop for more complex work .. their Creative Cloud photography plan is good value and can be used on two machines. I have Affinity Pro as a back up which also works well.

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As mentioned in other threads, I've been using Capture One Express for Sony for Raw conversion. It's surprisingly versatile, I find, especially for a free program. Yes, you can save your results as JPEGs if you like. I prefer to export them as 16-bit TIFS for further tweaking. A couple of months ago, I bought Affinity Photo (half price at the time) to replace my ageing version of PSElements, and I'm happy with Affinity as well. It's a bit is complicated, but the basics are easy enough to get hold of. You can develop and save RAW files as JPEGs with Affinity as well. However, I prefer to use it only for retouching as I find Capture One better for RAW processing. I still use my ancient copy of PS Elements for some tasks, It's nice and simple (like me ). Looks as if Affinity Photo might still be on sale.

 

Adios Adobe...

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20 minutes ago, wilkopix said:

I Use Adobe Lightoom for my catalogue and basic editing and Photoshop for more complex work .. their Creative Cloud photography plan is good value and can be used on two machines. I have Affinity Pro as a back up which also works well.

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Rob, I've been happily using Adobe since about 2007, but this last year with CC, the relationship has come apart.

 

Steve, a new Sony? That may happen. I feel that I'm entering my last round of stock photography and my RX100-6 is feeling the wear and tear of nomad land living. Is that an RX100-7 I see on the horizon? Anyway, if I don't work out my Mac and Adobe problems soon, I might toss all this stuff in the Mersey and jump in after it. I can't swim. 

 

I've installed both Capture One 21 Sony and Affinity on both my Macs, and now all I have to do is learn how to use them. 🤪

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John? You're awake! I knew you used apps not on Adobe CC, but forgot which ones. 

 

Thank you, everyone -- forum folks come through as always.

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Not yet, John. 

 

I just got stopped when I tried to activate Cap One on my new Air. The message said I can't have it on two computers. I'll have to think about that. 

 

A question: Can I do all the basic stuff to get a snap ready for Alamy on ether Affinity or Cap Pro alone? 

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Wow, that's got to be the BEST tutorial video I've ever seen -- so clear and understandable, and the guy speak slowly.

 

Another few days and I should be able to finalise my divorce from Adobe. I get the car and the beach house. She gets my old flat on Mulberry. 

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33 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

Not yet, John. 

 

I just got stopped when I tried to activate Cap One on my new Air. The message said I can't have it on two computers. I'll have to think about that. 

 

A question: Can I do all the basic stuff to get a snap ready for Alamy on ether Affinity or Cap Pro alone? 

 

It sounds as if you shelled out for the Pro version of Capture One, which must have lots of extra vitamins. Theoretically, you can get everything Alamy-ready in either Cap One or Affinity. However, I mix and match several programs (story of my life), so it's probably best that someone else chimes in on that score.

 

I too loathe how-to videos where the narrator speaks too quickly. It's a sign of our hyperactive times, I guess.

 

I also immediately nix all videos that begun with a bombastic, "Hey, guys! Today I'm gonna talk about....)

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That sounds odd, the main 'Capture One (for Sony) 21' license states that:

 

"While you can activate your Capture One single-user license on up to 2 computers, it is exclusive to one user only. If you need a license for multiple users, a multi-user or Enterprise license could be for you."

 

https://www.captureone.com/en/products-plans/single-user/capture-one-for-sony

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I'm finding all this as clear as mud, Harry. I think they may be taking too many akvavit breaks up there in Copenhagen. 

 

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At the risk of  losing a few more fingers offering unsolicited opinions but, given that the problems with Adobe appeared to be related to Photoshop rather than Lightroom (Classic I think), would it not just be better to work in Lightroom and forget Photoshop, at least for the moment? The task of learning a new program would seem to my simple mind to be a lot more daunting than simply using Lightroom. Import - Adjust - Export - Upload -  Happy. 

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No, my Adobe problems are in both LrC and PS and I can't put any of the Adobe apps on my new Air. I hope you don't think I'm looking forward to learn a new program -- I'm not. 

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My post was a bit on the minimalist side Ed, but I was just trying to suggest that you should be OK installing the full version of Capture One for Sony on two different computers, but no more than two. If instead you downloaded the free 'Express' version from here then, since it's free, I would have thought you could do the same, but I suppose it's just possible that they've contrived to prevent you from doing so. I have the free Capture One Express for Fuji, and also Affinity Photo but since I can still use my Perpetual license version of Lightroom with my current cameras I simply haven't learnt to use either properly. You could certainly do everything you need to in Lightroom as Michael suggests, I'm a big fan of Lightroom but I'm fairly allergic to the Adobe subscription model.

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40 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said:

That sounds odd, the main 'Capture One (for Sony) 21' license states that:

 

"While you can activate your Capture One single-user license on up to 2 computers, it is exclusive to one user only. If you need a license for multiple users, a multi-user or Enterprise license could be for you."

 

https://www.captureone.com/en/products-plans/single-user/capture-one-for-sony

 

I've got the free Capture One Express for Sony software running on two computers using two different licensing keys. Obviously you can't do that with the paid-for version.

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2 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

I've got the free Capture One Express for Sony software running on two computers using two different licensing keys.

Right, so that suggests that Ed has downloaded the Express version and is using the same licence key on both, timely information.

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