Nick Jenkins Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 With apologies to those who have seen it - I think this combines humour with a real message and the next person who offers me a credit or an advert gets it both barrels!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jenkins Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Ha!! This went down well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hi Nick, Thanks for sharing. Great script. Maybe a bit early in the day for others to have seen your post yet? This will keep you at the top for now. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jenkins Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Yippee - someone does care!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 But we do get something for working for no money: an immediate opportunity to do more work for no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The only conversation worth having, with a 'client' who says there's "no budget for photography", is a bit shorter than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Palmer Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Cash is king!! I need or want new lenses, a Mac with Retina display, a discrete stock photography camera...the list is endless and exposure won't even buy a cup of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Nice one Nick. Thanks for sharing. Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Love this. Tell me, where do I line up to get this kind of exposure? But we do get something for working for no money: an immediate opportunity to do more work for no money. Yes, I figured that one out the hard way. All "exposure" does is expose you as someone who is willing to work for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpics Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 With apologies to those who have seen it - I think this comines humour with a real message and the next person who offers me a credit or an advert gets it both barrels!! Great. Just sent this link to someone who asked me for a free pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Endicott Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Nick, I don't mean to be a downer...all the while, we fund our own shoots (work on speculation) so we can upload those images to stock agencies who pay us enormous amounts of money what we are worth what clients dictate they will pay the agency. It's a sad state of affairs even if we don't work for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris E Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Thanks Nick, good one! I found these that made me smile, how times have changed! Similar vein. It seems the norm now. Being able to remember 10x8 trans 30 years ago, there is such a revolution. Rather happy we are on the back end of it. Regards Chris E Sorry don't know why you get the vid not the link, it's rather cool and instant :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jenkins Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Point taken Ed but this, in fairness, applies more to commissioned work than speculative stock work. Sure, it should apply to both but stock is dictated by the market whereas so many 'clients' seeking commission work expect it for zilch/nicht/zippo/nothing/zero/free/credit/exposure............................................(nurse, the screens). nj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jenkins Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Chris E - zilch/nicht/zippo/nothing/zero/ - except a black box when I hit the red arrow. n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulw Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Another popular one that did the rounds some time ago was this amusing interview with Harlan Ellison. Not about photographers directly, but directly transferable! - Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpole Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 this topic made me smile today. funny but unfortunately true. What about photographic magazines i have had a few printed my images for free ? though not sure i will allow it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris E Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Chris E - zilch/nicht/zippo/nothing/zero/ - except a black box when I hit the red arrow. n Sorry Nick, try Firefox..... C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov makabaw Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Nice one Nick. Thanks for sharing. How do the $8.30 gross Alamy sales compare. With 500 of these I may be able to afford a lens!! dov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 If you think free is bad, listen to this. I used to do a lot of travel writing for newspapers. One of the main reason I stopped doing this was the rights-grabbing contracts that they started foisting on freelancers. Postmedia, which owns the lion's share of Canada's daily newspapers, has the absolute worst contract of all. Not only do they not pay anything for photos that accompany articles, but they also demand all rights to the images (i.e. they steal the copyright) and then sell them through their archives. All this is non-negotiable. So much for the "free press." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 No, that's what they mean by a 'free press'. Free content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 No, that's what they mean by a 'free press'. Free content. Yes. Ironic, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila Smart Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 The only conversation worth having, with a 'client' who says there's "no budget for photography", is a bit shorter than that... "Go forth and multiply" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 cheap or knock-down-price is one (bad) thing but free-good-for-your-portfolio is something else. This can't just be a Welsh thing, getting clients out here in East Anglia to part with a descent fee isn't easy. But I don't think I can recall anyone seriously or even unseriously asking me to work for free. Or even donate an archive shot. I'm not suggesting some photographers might have a big "sucker" sign hanging around their neck, but they must to some extent be giving off a signal to clients that it could be worth a try. No, I tell a lie! There was a New York publisher tied up to the Cousteau foundation who wanted an environmental snap of mine. Lots of big name photographers were going along with the gag or so they said. I declined and they were not happy. be firm and just about polite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 My son is a video student whose goal in life is to be a film editor. He had done a few music videos for a local contest for free and was contacted by them again to do the filming and editing for another contest. 50 bands doing 3 songs each so 150 videos to film and edit. And get this, not only did he want him to do all this for free (and supplying all the equipment) he wanted all the 150 videos completed in 30 days. Again telling my son how good this all would be for his portfolio. My son told him 150 videos edited in 30 days would not be ones he would want in his portfolio anyway, or even have his name attached to. The guy couldn't understand why this was such a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jenkins Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 It's a bit like Custer's Last Stand, reading all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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