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Usage: Editorial

Media: Editorial website

Placement: Single Placement

Image Size: up to full area

Start: 01 March 2015

End: 01 March 2018

Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above. $ 10.00

I just had this sale come up. Not RF, not Novel Use, not News-paper scheme, but regular RM. For 10 USD!!! Of which Alamy gets to keep half. I'm sorry, but I have a really hard time seeing the business sense in this. Anybody else having anything similar?

Rolf

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Isn't website use up to five years supposed to be $45 for both RF and RM images? These must have been part of a package deal.

 

P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. B)

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Smacks of being desperate for sales at any price?

 

I can sort of relate to that :(

 

Yes, I'm not quite sure what happened to my "Top 500" status. Pride cometh before a fall...

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My comment was aimed at Alamy, not you John. I am desperately trying to work out how to get out of the mass market and offer something that is seen to actually have some value. I feel generic stock photographers are similar to UK dairy farmers where supermarkets are paying less for milk than the cost of production ... But we don't get any grants from the equivalent of a EU Common Agricultural Policy :(

 

I too need to diversify and/or change tack.

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I suggest we put a 'tip jar' and Paypal link to all of our images available on agency sites!  Anyone that licenses our images..if they really love it,can chip in some extra money without a commission being taken!

 

If it works for blogs....

 

L

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I suggest we put a 'tip jar' and Paypal link to all of our images available on agency sites!  Anyone that licenses our images..if they really love it,can chip in some extra money without a commission being taken!

 

If it works for blogs....

 

L

 

A virtual "tip jar" -- what an awesome idea. Welcome to the new online economy, where begging gains a whole new status. B)

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Since stock photos have become a commodity maybe we can convince the Goverment to subsidize us.  They do it for corn, soybeans, and sugar.  I've had four of those low dollar sales in the last two months.  The low prices plus the new contract clauses are making this a futile endeavor.

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P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. B)

 

Don't you even say that!!! Joking, but still more sad than funny... :wacko:

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Same kind of sale pop up in my sales account this morning. 10$ only! Not happy, honestly!  :angry:

 

 

Country: Worldwide
Usage: Editorial
Media: Editorial website
Placement: Single Placement
Image Size: up to full area
Start: 01 March 2015
End: 01 March 2018
Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above.

 

 

And here's the photo:

 

http://www.mapquest.com/travel/articles/san-francisco-neighborhood-guide-21141235

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P.S. I haven't had a sale show up since Feb. 9th despite loads of zooms, so even $10 sales might start looking good soon. B)

 

Don't you even say that!!! Joking, but still more sad than funny... :wacko:

 

 

You're right of course. Truthfully, I've had very few sales in the 8$ to $10 price range. It looks as if this buyer might have leased a lot of images. Hence the big discount.

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There is an upside of course. A $10 sale will help to improve your rank, which will help your pics to be seen in the future and generate more sales.

 

Alan

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If that is the case it might almost be worth buying a few oneself for "blog" use to raise ranking!

 

There is an upside of course. A $10 sale will help to improve your rank, which will help your pics to be seen in the future and generate more sales.

 

Alan

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Often these sort of prices are for images that end up in editorial online slideshows. A market that didn't exist many years ago (when we all bought paper editions (with less images in), before internet).

 

Think of them as extras, on top of the regular magazine/books/papers sales etc.

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Same kind of sale pop up in my sales account this morning. 10$ only! Not happy, honestly!  :angry:

 

 

Country: Worldwide

Usage: Editorial

Media: Editorial website

Placement: Single Placement

Image Size: up to full area

Start: 01 March 2015

End: 01 March 2018

Editorial web use, multiple placement; rights granted in line with customer agreement which may vary from invoice details above.

 

 

And here's the photo:

 

http://www.mapquest.com/travel/articles/san-francisco-neighborhood-guide-21141235

 

Yes I had a couple of those. Some of which I could trace to this same client. Disturbing detail: they are in fact 1600x1050 px with no metadata at all. The original Alamy ref # is sometimes retained. On the display page there is a copyright Alamy overlay. Right clicking is disabled, but I have found one of mine nicked from these pages and used unaltered at the full 600x1050.

 

For more uses, Google:

alamy site:www.mapquest.com

(sorry no link because Google insists using Google.ES on this machine)

 

wim

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When I started with Alamy (2005) my average license was $400.00 + that went down along

with the global economy and recently I have seen it rising, sort of like an ocean tide.

Over the years I've had many small licenses (under $50.00) and partially thanks to

Alamy I have also seen following licenses for over $200.00 to the same client.

Alamy and the stock industry is not perfect and in my belief Alamy has always

done the best that Alamy could, despite a very difficult market. I've been in the

business for decades and I look at the long term, not the daily or monthly licenses.

 

I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or libraries

were licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone.

 

FYI: Alamy is the only library or agency that I have worked with that I have never in a

decade had to call to ask "Where is my money!" For a decade "Alamy gets paid and I

get paid."

 

I do not do "Micro" or even RF.

 

Chuck (Still the original Chuck)

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When I started with Alamy (2005) my average license was $400.00 + that went down along

with the global economy and recently I have seen it rising, sort of like an ocean tide.

Over the years I've had many small licenses (under $50.00) and partially thanks to

Alamy I have also seen following licenses for over $200.00 to the same client.

Alamy and the stock industry is not perfect and in my belief Alamy has always

done the best that Alamy could, despite a very difficult market. I've been in the

business for decades and I look at the long term, not the daily or monthly licenses.

 

I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or libraries

were licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone.

 

FYI: Alamy is the only library or agency that I have worked with that I have never in a

decade had to call to ask "Where is my money!" For a decade "Alamy gets paid and I

get paid."

 

I do not do "Micro" or even RF.

 

Chuck (Still the original Chuck)

I do too. I was working in the office of an agency in Chicago that Tony Stone purchased at the time I started my own agency in NYC and Chicago.

 

I'm still getting decent rates thru my clients I've worked with for decades. Many of my clients will not do biz with G or the bigger agencies for various reasons.

 

L

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Chuck, great post (#20) !

 

That's true the market is falling down with pricing, it's hard to competite with so many sellers offering so many images (milions). Now I'm affraid that I closed my micros accounts to find that A. pricing is getting almost micro. Of course A. is better than any micro site (fair treating and nice place in sum) but it really worries me how intensively prices are crushing.

 

 

I go back to the days before Tony Stone, when images from stock agencies or libraries
were licensed for more than $750.00 per use. Those days are gone.

 

When was it? I came to A. in 2010. In 2008 I was reading about so great amounts and couldn't imagine the beauty... People were talking about 500-2000$ for license, encouraging huh? When I joined licences were for 100$ average. Now it's hard to get 75$ :(  and unimaginable to see 750$.

 

Now the question is - what can we do to go back to that nice days?

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My comment was aimed at Alamy, not you John. I am desperately trying to work out how to get out of the mass market and offer something that is seen to actually have some value. I feel generic stock photographers are similar to UK dairy farmers where supermarkets are paying less for milk than the cost of production ... But we don't get any grants from the equivalent of a EU Common Agricultural Policy :(

 

I too need to diversify and/or change tack.

Nope! almost everyone in micro has bought the slogan, diversify!  contrary it clearly show, that unique, specialized and niched content sell a thousand times more. perhaps not here but for sure at other places.

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I think you missed my point - I think we actually agree. I need, want, to get away from generic stock. It is a mass market where the retailer is the only one that makes real money, through aggregation. Suppliers of commodity products always get squeezed. My point about diversificataion was about finding that specialised niche that both interests me and where my enthusiasm can show through. As I have said in the past, a very small niche would be ideal as I am not looking to get rich, just make enough to live comfortably.  A small niche can be more personal and hopefully less attractive to all and sundry so face less competition.

 

The big challenge, as always, is finding the route to market; it is almost certainly not the Alamy, G, C et al.

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