Rolf Adlercreutz Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I had a sale in August, a fairly unusual 1970 group photo of the Monty Python gang, for $82.70. Not great, but still. Today it was re-funded and a new sale of $79.18 showed up with exactly the same usage. A difference of $3.52! Nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more. Rolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 That eighty-two bucks has ceased to be. It is an ex-eighty-two bucks. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Nobody expects the $3.52 refund. Our chief weapon is surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustydingo Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 $3.52? . . . luxury!! . . . dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I got a slug. Only $3.52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Todd Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Are you looking for an argument??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I've basically given up trying to understand refunds. I've had the same two images refunded and resold twice during the past few weeks with minor changes to the terms. One just has to go with the flow these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ventura Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I've basically given up trying to understand refunds. I've had the same two images refunded and resold twice during the past few weeks with minor changes to the terms. One just has to go with the flow these days. I agree John. I had a nice streak of 3 or 4 months with no refunds and then three just recently. All were price adjustments, not total refunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brooks Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The value of the sale currency changed by $3.52 between now, when the sale was rebilled, and August when the sale was made. In other words the selling currency was converted and worth $82.70 in August, but was worth only $79.18 when converted today. This can happen if a sale has to be rebilled. Sometime it works in your favour. The $3.52 is not dead, it is only resting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York Photographer Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Your supposed to haggle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The value of the sale currency changed by $3.52 between now, when the sale was rebilled, and August when the sale was made. In other words the selling currency was converted and worth $82.70 in August, but was worth only $79.18 when converted today. This can happen if a sale has to be rebilled. Sometime it works in your favour. The $3.52 is not dead, it is only resting. Isn't the selling currency always USD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yes, but the customer bought in a different currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yes, but the customer bought in a different currency. Shouldn't this be happening more often then? I've never seen a small correction like the one Rolf mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jordan Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I had one last year sold for $44.64 and refunded. Sold again for $37.94, saving $6.70. Odd thing was, although all the other license were identical, the first sale was USA and second Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_J Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I had one last year sold for $44.64 and refunded. Sold again for $37.94, saving $6.70. Odd thing was, although all the other license were identical, the first sale was USA and second Brazil Quite interesting! Last year I also had a sale to 'Brazil' for a similar amount ($37.62 gross; not a refund; distributor sale; retail book with low print run). When preparing my DACS claim, I noted that the region specified in the table that can be downloaded under "net revenue" was actually "US". Thus I wondered if I should opt out of distribution in Brazil. Can you see if your Brazillian sale was licensed for use in Brazil or elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jordan Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 The details of my sale were: Country: BrazilUsage: EditorialMedia: Textbook - print and e-bookPrint run: up to 5,000Placement: InsideImage Size: 1/2 pageStart: 01 June 2013End: 01 June 2014 The original sale as identical except country was United States and print run 10,000. Both were distributor sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jordan Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I just tried a search on the image in Google Images. I have found images in text books there before now but no luck with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_J Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Many thanks, Peter! Details of my license: Country: BrazilUsage: EditorialMedia: Retail book - print onlyPrint run: up to 5,000Placement: InsideImage Size: 1/4 pageStart: 01 June 2013End: 01 June 2014 The licenses are not identical so our images were for different books. I've never found mine either. From inspecting the licensing details of other pictures, I infer that "country" is just jargon for the location of the audience of a publication (for example, "french speaking countries" or "rest of world"), and does not necessarily indicate the country in which an image was licensed/published. The latter appears to be specified by the "region" . (The "region" is not given in the 'summary of items sold', but it can be viewed in the downloadable spreadsheet, it's in the last column). For my license the "country" was "Brazil" and the "region" was "US". I think that means that the image was licensed/published in the USA for a book with a print run of 5000 for the Brazilian market... (edited; I had overlooked that PJ's license was for textbook and mine for a retail book) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 A refund? Luxury! I used to dream of having a refund! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jordan Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Many thanks, Peter! Details of my license: Country: Brazil Usage: Editorial Media: Retail book - print only Print run: up to 5,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/4 page Start: 01 June 2013 End: 01 June 2014 The licenses are not identical so our images were for different books. I've never found mine either. From inspecting the licensing details of other pictures, I infer that "country" is just jargon for the location of the audience of a publication (for example, "french speaking countries" or "rest of world"), and does not necessarily indicate the country in which an image was licensed/published. The latter appears to be specified by the "region" . (The "region" is not given in the 'summary of items sold', but it can be viewed in the downloadable spreadsheet, it's in the last column). For my license the "country" was "Brazil" and the "region" was "US". I think that means that the image was licensed/published in the USA for a book with a print run of 5000 for the Brazilian market... (edited; I had overlooked that PJ's license was for textbook and mine for a retail book) I forgot that "region" appears on the spreadsheet. Like yours mine was Country: Brazil and Region: US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giphotostock Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Many thanks, Peter! Details of my license: Country: Brazil Usage: Editorial Media: Retail book - print only Print run: up to 5,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/4 page Start: 01 June 2013 End: 01 June 2014 The licenses are not identical so our images were for different books. I've never found mine either. From inspecting the licensing details of other pictures, I infer that "country" is just jargon for the location of the audience of a publication (for example, "french speaking countries" or "rest of world"), and does not necessarily indicate the country in which an image was licensed/published. The latter appears to be specified by the "region" . (The "region" is not given in the 'summary of items sold', but it can be viewed in the downloadable spreadsheet, it's in the last column). For my license the "country" was "Brazil" and the "region" was "US". I think that means that the image was licensed/published in the USA for a book with a print run of 5000 for the Brazilian market... (edited; I had overlooked that PJ's license was for textbook and mine for a retail book) I forgot that "region" appears on the spreadsheet. Like yours mine was Country: Brazil and Region: US US-based publishers do translate English-language textbooks to Portuguese and publish them in Brasil. Could this be the case here? GI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_J Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Many thanks, Peter! Details of my license: Country: Brazil Usage: Editorial Media: Retail book - print only Print run: up to 5,000 Placement: Inside Image Size: 1/4 page Start: 01 June 2013 End: 01 June 2014 The licenses are not identical so our images were for different books. I've never found mine either. From inspecting the licensing details of other pictures, I infer that "country" is just jargon for the location of the audience of a publication (for example, "french speaking countries" or "rest of world"), and does not necessarily indicate the country in which an image was licensed/published. The latter appears to be specified by the "region" . (The "region" is not given in the 'summary of items sold', but it can be viewed in the downloadable spreadsheet, it's in the last column). For my license the "country" was "Brazil" and the "region" was "US". I think that means that the image was licensed/published in the USA for a book with a print run of 5000 for the Brazilian market... (edited; I had overlooked that PJ's license was for textbook and mine for a retail book) I forgot that "region" appears on the spreadsheet. Like yours mine was Country: Brazil and Region: US US-based publishers do translate English-language textbooks to Portuguese and publish them in Brasil. Could this be the case here? GI Thanks very much! I dont't think your suggestion applies here. My image hadn't been licensed before, or since. And it was for a retail book. While the licensing details suggest a very specialized book, my image was of parasol mushrooms . These are very common in Europe, but appear not to occur in Brazil (in an Alamy search). I'd really like to see how the image was used. Perhaps, in a Field Guide to European Fungi, first published in Brazillian Portuguese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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