wiskerke Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 hours ago, Duncan_Andison said: free speech in the UK Wow, you have such a thing? Or is that the point of the amendment? wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Andison Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Wow, you have such a thing? Or is that the point of the amendment? wim I do wonder at times 🤣 For anyone who wants to see Rowan Atkinson talk about it.... he is far more entertaining in his delivery than I could ever be 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxzoomy Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 If I uploaded a photo of my stomach I would happily tag it as obese, fat, very fat, lardy etc. I hope to start my August diet soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Always try to include another person in the picture, then you can say you were referring to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I think my serving of strawberry shortcake yesterday was obese. The portion I ate could easily have served two. One of my weaknesses. Yes, food can be obese. (Tongue in cheek) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 57 minutes ago, zxzoomy said: If I uploaded a photo of my stomach I would happily tag it as obese, fat, very fat, lardy etc. I hope to start my August diet soon. Start it in July. Never too soon. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) Perhaps the test is to consider how we would feel personally if we came across a picture of ourselves in a national newspaper with an unflattering caption. We have rights but we have ( IMHO) responsibilities that go beyond the letter of the law to think about other people's emotions and reactions. Maybe another test would be if we would be prepared to go and ask the person we are photographing if they had any objections to being captioned in a certain way - I am not suggesting doing it just a mental consideration test. Edited July 7 by geogphotos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, zxzoomy said: If I uploaded a photo of my stomach I would happily tag it as obese, fat, very fat, lardy etc. I hope to start my August diet soon. Does the UK have sugar tax yet? Some NHS topic in the news re obesity maybe? Have someone poke a finger in the fat: a kid's; woman's and a mate's. The mate and you holding a beer; a burger; chips; pie; sugary drink. All just the belly and the hands of course. (And tag the images with all the words that are allowed and are used by clients on AoA.) wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Does the UK have sugar tax yet? Yes, on soft drinks. Most were reformulated to avoid it. Edited July 7 by spacecadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, spacecadet said: Yes, on soft drinks. Most were reformulated to avoid it. So there's an obvious tag. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I should add that the people in my one image are captioned as "fat". Obesity is only in the tags. The people are next to two people of normal build. I'm sure it's justifiable by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I am relieved to see that I only have two images with the keyword 'obese' both of a side view of my gut a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 8 minutes ago, geogphotos said: I am relieved to see that I only have two images with the keyword 'obese' both of a side view of my gut a few years ago. Ditto. On the wider topic. I'd only feel comfortable if their faces weren't in view. And I'd still have second thoughts to be honest. I'm thinking of getting people with a model release at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, Steve F said: Ditto. On the wider topic. I'd only feel comfortable if their faces weren't in view. And I'd still have second thoughts to be honest. I'm thinking of getting people with a model release at this point. I agree. This is the territory for Model Releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 16 minutes ago, geogphotos said: I am relieved to see that I only have two images with the keyword 'obese' both of a side view of my gut a few years ago. I suppose I should change that to 'even more obese' 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) I have three or four images of people all tagged as "obese", all in public, and all taken from the rear so not (facially) identifiable. They very obviously fit into the medical definition so I would feel able to stand up in court and justify the tag. Kumar Edited July 7 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reimar Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) Years ago I took an image of a woman knitting in a log cabin at Pioneer Village in Toronto. She was one of the "actors" there, with grey hair and pioneer clothing so she looked very Grandmotherly to me. I keyworded accordingly and had "old" in there. Some time later her daughter saw the image and contacted me complaining that her Mom was not "old". I said "fine" and removed the keyword. Sheesh. Edited July 7 by Reimar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) Now if you are talking about old, senior, elderly, retiree, I have quite a few of those tags. Bulk of them, though are family Or unidentifiable people, though. In the US, people are eligible for AARP advantages, I think at 50 or 55. And its magazine refer to people as seniors. A lot of senior discounts from various businesses start at 55. Ahem…I considered myself middle aged at that point. Now I call myself….decrepit. If I ever go to a walker or wheelchair, I’ll call myself dead, if I can still think of the word at that point. Ahhh, we have to laugh at ourselves or we’d cry. If you look in the mirror & think you resemble a Shar Pei, you’re old. Edited July 7 by Betty LaRue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Betty LaRue said: Shar Pei who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve F said: who? Google it Steve, but add “dog” to it. 😁 Edited July 7 by Betty LaRue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nacke Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 29/06/2023 at 14:42, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said: (although thread from which this comment was lifted is closed, this is a distinct legal tangent worthy of discussion?) The One They Call Janos said: " A photographer on Alamy told me that he ended up being sued by an offended woman because he had labelled/keyworded her in one of his pics as obese!" now wa-aaaaaa-ait a minute !! was the subject obese or not obese??? can a subject be obese and successfully sue for being tagged "obese" ??? It is Friday and a lot of the responses are "off the cuff" but my serious answer to the OP's question. I did once do an assignment for a U.S. national publication on Obesity. The publication was very specific and had specific model releases to be signed and the releases were specific to the publication's story. I was paid extra by the publication to not relicense the images via my agency at the time and I did not. I would never put Obese in the keywords on an image showing a person's face unless I had spoken with them and had a solid and specific model release. Happy Friday, Chuck 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxzoomy Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I have uploaded some roly-poly images. If they pass QC I will tag them appropriately and with a model release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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