Harry Harrison Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 11 minutes ago, zxzoomy said: I tried to upload one phone image but it instantly says my phone is unsuitable, not high enough quality. 'Instantly' suggests that is is an automated response, can you think of any reason why 'they' might have thought it was unsuitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahavi Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I also tried to upload from my iPhone SE. There was no problem before via Stockimo, but now the automated message appeared: unsuitable smartphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony ALS Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 minutes ago, Wahavi said: I also tried to upload from my iPhone SE. There was no problem before via Stockimo, but now the automated message appeared: unsuitable smartphone. A couple of images uploaded from an iPhone SE 2020 didn't get rejected but went into QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 On 02/10/2024 at 11:48, Harry Harrison said: So I guess someone, a person, looked at that one, just as they did with all 'S' images I believe. Easy for now but they won't be able to do that once everyone knows about it and batch uploads start to get going, unless of course they have employed a team somwhere around the globe to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 10 minutes ago, Wahavi said: I also tried to upload from my iPhone SE Would that be the original 2016 SE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 On Martinsell Hill. Uploaded 2. Can see the two subs on left of AIM but can’t see the pics. There’s a line going down the middle of the screen with stuff about metadata on the right side. Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Harry Harrison said: 'Instantly' suggests that is is an automated response, can you think of any reason why 'they' might have thought it was unsuitable? It is presumably a basic filter that rejects certain phones, similar to the filter that rejects files based on pixel dimensions or file size. They must have a list of phones that are acceptable. These rejections are not QC fails. Once it gets past that filter it will go into a QC process which is similar to the normal QC process so that might mean instantaneous pass for people with high QC ranks but not always as they do spot checks. The report of unsuitable material is a QC fail. It’s a failure category in normal QC that covers but not restricted to porn, glamour or material that would infringe third party rights. It doesn’t mean they are monitoring for content. They have always been able to use that. I’ve never seen it myself but it’s there. Edited October 3 by MDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MDM said: It is presumably a basic filter that rejects certain phones, similar to the filter that rejects files based on pixel dimensions or file size Well it may be, it looks as if it is, but the more information we can glean here the easier it will be to work out how they are determining which phones go on the list, I suspect that they might not be about to tell us. Pixel dimensions and file size thresholds are finite whereas a list of acceptable phones would very contentious, presumably that's why they have always said that they no longer have a list of acceptable cameras even though sometimes images from very acceptable cameras have been automatically rejected when they are new to the market, I can think of the latest Fuji X100 from a couple of years ago, that 24MP video-centric Sony model with the flip round selfie screen etc. I've just looked at this DXOMARK review of the 2020 Iphone SE. As I've said before there are many, many ways to use a modern camera phone in a way that would reduce the quality but if you use the standard fixed lens camera without making use of the digital zoom in good light then it should normally be fine. In this case the 2020 SE gets marked down for "no dedicated ultra-wide, bokeh, or zoom cameras". Edited October 3 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Yes there is a lot of uncertainty which is probably intentional but they are definitely rejecting images on upload based on some criteria and they have used the term unsuitable phone. Like you I’m curious. I’m tempted to upload an image from my iPad Pro shot in raw and edited in Lightroom Mobile which I’m certain is of sufficient technical quality so that, if it gets through the initial filter, it won’t fail QC and potentially damage my 12 year + QC record. The camera is easily as good as most iPhones. I’l report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Adlercreutz Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Susan Kaufman, photog in New York, has made two coffee-table sized books with her iPhone; Walk with me; New York and Walk with me; Hamptons. Just saying! Rolf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 OK well my iPad Pro image got rejected as unsuitable phone. It demonstrates unequivocally that they are rejecting images by filtering phone type and not by some magical process. They don't accept iPad images even if the quality is as good as or superior to a lot of smartphones. I'm betting if I used my iPhone SE 2nd Gen (2020) the same pic would pass as others have said that phone is suitable. I don't do walkabout photography for stock any more which is why I sold my RX-100 last year but it is good to know that if I see something interesting my iPhone SE is acceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Scheuern Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 This is a very thorough review of the iPhone 16 Pro from Lux co-founder and creator of the Halide app, Sebastiaan de With. The iPhone 16 Pro Camera Review Sharing because besides be some interesting specifics on the 16 Pro, he has a lot of good information on phone cameras in general and what makes them different, such as why 48 megapixels isn't really. Some nice photography, too! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty LaRue Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Mark Scheuern said: This is a very thorough review of the iPhone 16 Pro from Lux co-founder and creator of the Halide app, Sebastiaan de With. The iPhone 16 Pro Camera Review Sharing because besides be some interesting specifics on the 16 Pro, he has a lot of good information on phone cameras in general and what makes them different, such as why 48 megapixels isn't really. Some nice photography, too! Enjoyed the read. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahavi Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 hours ago, Harry Harrison said: Would that be the original 2016 SE? Yes. Not a new type, but good enough for Stockimo. So I have some hundreds of images accepted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 hours ago, Matt Ashmore said: No.. I uploaded from my phone. My point was, that once the photos have been uploaded to Alamy, I suspect the normal QC system kicks in regardless of how the image got to alamy. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, MDM said: OK well my iPad Pro image got rejected as unsuitable phone. It demonstrates unequivocally that they are rejecting images by filtering phone type and not by some magical process. They don't accept iPad images even if the quality is as good as or superior to a lot of smartphones. I'm betting if I used my iPhone SE 2nd Gen (2020) the same pic would pass as others have said that phone is suitable. I don't do walkabout photography for stock any more which is why I sold my RX-100 last year but it is good to know that if I see something interesting my iPhone SE is acceptable. One would think that "suitable image" would be a more sensible criterion to use than "suitable phone." Somehow I think I'll just keep using my camera for images that I submit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I hardly go out without my Sony RX100 mk7 which is discrete and, so far, all images have been accepted from it. Unless I boobed on the QC front but that is me and not the camera. Doubt I will use my iPhone 12 for taking photos for Alamy. Anyway I would not know how to prepare them nor upload from the camera. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I'm looking forward to having selfies standing in front of a statue of a forgotten hero of the long ago on Alamy -- NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Scheuern Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 30 minutes ago, Allan Bell said: I hardly go out without my Sony RX100 mk7 which is discrete and, so far, all images have been accepted from it. Unless I boobed on the QC front but that is me and not the camera. Doubt I will use my iPhone 12 for taking photos for Alamy. Anyway I would not know how to prepare them nor upload from the camera. Allan I went out yesterday with the intent of trying some stuff with my new iPhone 16 Pro Max but I had my M10 with me, too, and I ended up shooting zero pictures with the phone. I can imagine using the phone for things when I don't have a camera with me, though. Definitely more discrete, but when I was out yesterday, a guy showed me his Ricoh GR III, which I think is similar in size to your Sony. I'd love to have something like that to take everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I have a Sony RX100-7 too, Mark. It's great. And it has a 24-120 zoom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Hatton Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 What would be handy would be the facility to make a call from my 5d miii 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 5 hours ago, Wahavi said: Yes. Not a new type, but good enough for Stockimo Thanks, same as mine then. I'm not in any hurry to use a phone as an Alamy camera but I suspect it's not approved anyway. I think it's looking like these new Smartphone images have to at least appear to have the same quality as camera images which wasn't true for those from the app, they could be more quirky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxzoomy Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 14 hours ago, Harry Harrison said: 'Instantly' suggests that is is an automated response, can you think of any reason why 'they' might have thought it was unsuitable? My phone is an Asian Realme brand, bought when I had phone problems in Asia last year. I think the images are big enough so I don't know. Not a big deal for me but I had to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 5 hours ago, zxzoomy said: My phone is an Asian Realme brand Thanks, it will be interesting to see if Alamy say that they have a list of acceptable phones, maintaining such a list in a global marketplace would not be straightforward. It would also mean that EXIF data would always need to be present but I suppose that when uploading directly from a phone it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Scheuern Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) I went out this morning and shot with my new iPhone 16 Pro Max, in Pro RAW mode, 48 megapixels, imported the photos into Lightroom and carefully adjusted them, exported, and attempted to upload to Alamy. Immediate rejection. "Unsuitable Smartphone Sorry, this is either an unsuitable camera or phone camera that doesn't produce images of high enough quality. For more info see our FAQsHelp" Puzzling, since this is with the highest end currently available iPhone, shot in the highest quality possible mode. Especially since it happily accepted my iPhone 11 shots I uploaded a few days ago. And yes, full EXIF data in the exported JPEGs. Edited October 4 by Mark Scheuern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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