Foxytoul Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Bonjour à tous, Je suis étonné par le peu de ventes Alamy en comparaison avec d'autres banques stock comme Adobe. Depuis janvier 2021, je n'ai réalisé que 2 ventes !!!!! Est ce que vous avez le même cas ? Salutations sincères Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radim Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I do not have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Foxytoul said: Je suis étonné par le peu de ventes Alamy en comparaison avec d'autres banques stock comme Adobe. Depuis janvier 2021, je n'ai réalisé que 2 ventes !!!!! Est ce que vous avez le même cas ? No I had 105 sales since January first, which is a bit low. With exactly 20% of your 13066 = 2613 images. You do have really funny keywords: argentine bresil cachoera christ redempteur chutes copacabana corcovado fruits iguacu ipanema jardin botanique leblond marche pain de sucre pelourhino plages rio de janeiro salvador de bahia For this image: Caption: Rio de Janeiro, pont de Niteroi, baie de Guanabara A bridge in Brasil over the Guanabara Bay between Rio and Niteroi: the President Costa e Silva Bridge, commonly known as the Rio–Niterói Bridge or Ponte Rio-Niterói in Portuguese. Not in Argentina; and also not: cachoera; christ redempteur; chutes; copacabana; corcovado; fruits; iguacu; ipanema; jardin botanique; leblond; marche; pain de sucre; pelourhino; plages; salvador de bahia; So firstly I would only use keywords for what you can see in the image and secondly translate the remaining keywords in English. Including your captions of course. With a subject like this I would use the local name or names too. Maybe include that it is a very long concrete box girder bridge. I do wonder if you have the exact same images on Adobe with the same keywords? Does Adobe translate every language into every other language? Are your images only selling in French speaking countries? wim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I am surprised that the picture that Wim has shown passed QC. 1) Technical problems with some images 2) Keywording is inaccurate 3) Lack of English in captions and keywords 4) The same images available on micro stock. The problem is not with Alamy it is with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxytoul Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Merci pour vos réponses, j'ai les mêmes images sur Adobe avec les mêmes mots clés, mes images se vendent partout dans le monde. Avec Alamy j'ai eu 2 ventes depuis le début de l'année et 320 ventes sur Adobe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Foxytoul said: Merci pour vos réponses, j'ai les mêmes images sur Adobe avec les mêmes mots clés, mes images se vendent partout dans le monde. Avec Alamy j'ai eu 2 ventes depuis le début de l'année et 320 ventes sur Adobe. Which seems to prove that buyers prefer the low prices at Adobe to buying the same image at Alamy. If we can find your images easily so can buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Foxytoul said: Merci pour vos réponses, j'ai les mêmes images sur Adobe avec les mêmes mots clés, mes images se vendent partout dans le monde. Avec Alamy j'ai eu 2 ventes depuis le début de l'année et 320 ventes sur Adobe. Vous avez peu mots clés anglais, et trop sont hors du sujet. Pur un agence anglais on n'utilise pas de mots français. Alamy fera la traduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Foxytoul said: Merci pour vos réponses, j'ai les mêmes images sur Adobe avec les mêmes mots clés, mes images se vendent partout dans le monde. Avec Alamy j'ai eu 2 ventes depuis le début de l'année et 320 ventes sur Adobe. Merci. Je pense qu'Adobe fonctionne différemment d'Alamy. Et que votre travail convient mieux à Adobe. Je ne savais pas qu'Adobe acceptait les images éditoriales avec des personnes et des biens sans autorisation. Peut-être que je devrais y jeter un œil aussi. 😁 Peut-être qu'Adobe traduit les mots-clés d'autres langues en anglais et vice-versa. Ici, l'anglais est le seul standard et il est traduit dans les différentes langues des différents sites web comme alamy.es ; alamy.de ; alamyimages.fr ; alamy.it ; alamy.pt (il y en a peut-être d'autres). My guess is that Adobe works differently from Alamy. And that your works suits Adobe better. Maybe Adobe translates keywords from other languages into English as well as the other way around. Here English is the sole standard and it gets translated into the different languages of the different websites like alamy.es; alamy.de; alamyimages.fr; alamy.it; alamy.pt (there may be others). wim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, geogphotos said: Which seems to prove that buyers prefer the low prices at Adobe to buying the same image at Alamy. If we can find your images easily so can buyers. I buy as well as sell, and as soon as I find an image I like, I right click and click on "search google for this image" and I hunt for it in the cheapest sales venue. It's very easy and saves me a lot of money. Some images are better suited to Microstock, others are better here. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Maybe Alamy is not as popular as it once was. Last week I stumbled upon these reviews of Alamy on Trustpilot: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/alamy.com 2 stars is usually barge pole territory for me. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, wiskerke said: Maybe Alamy is not as popular as it once was. Last week I stumbled upon these reviews of Alamy on Trustpilot: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/alamy.com 2 stars is usually barge pole territory for me. wim Most of the bad reviews are obviously by people who do not understand the workings of Alamy. Used to microstock who only report sales when paid. Maybe Alamy should do the same. And the complaints about having to reach a threshold to get paid - same on all sites. I have earnings on Dreamstime and SS over the last 5 years and still not paid. The lack of understanding of QC is obvious as well. Mostly people who definitely shouldn't be selling here, complaining about having to check their images themselves. Jill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Frankly, I don't mind if they decide not to join us. Paulette 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizBrown Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) I have a bit over a thousand images up and have 19 sales. My guess is that people who can't accept that they're not taking photos strangers want to use or who are undercutting their Alamy portfolio by offering their photos on other sites for less are the ones who are quite upset. People who are unrealistic about their accomplishments tend to blame others for their failures. Someone once quipped that 10 years of rejection slips was God's way of telling you not to quit your day job. The majority of the negative reviews were from unhappy contributors. Alamy's customers seemed to be much more satisfied. Edited May 13, 2021 by MizBrown another observation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Je crois qu'il faut titrer et ajouter les mot-cles en Anglais. Alamy fait les traduire en autres langues (plus ou moins) pour ses distibuteurs etranges, mais il faut initialement ecrire en Anglais, malheureusement. Edited May 13, 2021 by Phil Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radim Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) I think your photos have great potential for successful sales, but you need to change your approach to Alamy. There are certain rules that you do not follow or "creatively" interpret in your own way. If you think the Alamy will change because of you, then it's your big mistake Edited May 13, 2021 by Radim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) On 11/05/2021 at 20:45, Foxytoul said: Bonjour à tous, Je suis étonné par le peu de ventes Alamy en comparaison avec d'autres banques stock comme Adobe. Depuis janvier 2021, je n'ai réalisé que 2 ventes !!!!! Est ce que vous avez le même cas ? Salutations sincères To my knowledge, Alamy translates keywords from English into other languages. Not the other way round. So you have a very slim chance of sales on Alamy, except to France. And in my experience, the very few sales I had to France are through a distributor. I am French and learnt English at school. What gives? You have an extensive excellent portfolio but perhaps you were targetting the French market which is incredibly narrow? Edited May 15, 2021 by gvallee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 20 hours ago, David Pimborough said: I wouldn't read too much in to Trustpilot reviews Looking at a number of the one star reviews they posted by contributors who just don't bother reading the terms and conditons and haven't got a clue about stock photography and how it works There are some poor "customer" reviews about public domain images being available and they clearly don't understand that public domain images can be sold via agencies The most hilarious review states "shitbag thieving cucks They stole my likeness and are selling pictures of me that I never authorized, nor do I receive any royalties. " 😆 where do these people come from Still a PR nightmare. So I went back and looked at some other stock agencies. Because of the rules here I will not go into the details. I would say: go see/click for yourself. In general: Alamy doesn't look too bad among the others. There is one agency that has 4.5 stars/Excellent with 187 reviews however. It's a pity I cannot name it, because I'm sure the roaring laughter of many contributors would be heard over here. 😂 😂 wim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizBrown Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, wiskerke said: Still a PR nightmare. So I went back and looked at some other stock agencies. Because of the rules here I will not go into the details. I would say: go see/click for yourself. In general: Alamy doesn't look too bad among the others. There is one agency that has 4.5 stars/Excellent with 187 reviews however. It's a pity I cannot name it, because I'm sure the roaring laughter of many contributors would be heard over here. 😂 😂 wim Looks like a lot of client complaints when people try trial subscriptions and get stung for annual subscriptions or when the "free trial" only offers watermarked copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizBrown Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 7 hours ago, David Pimborough said: Oh I read them for sure and the rumour was the agency in the Empire State was paying Indian based click farms to try redress the overwhelmingly bad reviews and comments 😆 Lot of people giving those favorable reviews only had that one review posted. From what I've seen of agency reviews, the problem most clients have with other agencies is how subscriptions are handled, how free samples are handled, and how pricing is not transparent. Alamy's clients seemed to be mostly pleased except for the people who wanted public domain work to be free despite the overhead of putting the photos in a searchable database. I'd especially be concerned about non-transparent pricing in agencies that actively trash other agencies without disclosing that they're also setting up as agencies. The publishing world had an agency that charged to review amateur work but which worked as a real agency with writers with a track record. I knew several people in rural Virginia who paid for reviews which were always encouraging but never committed to taking on the writer as a regular client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Christiaen Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) hello it may be necessary to go a little further in retouching, especially in architectural images. I took a random image and quickly made corrections. in the keywords there is canal, and swans .... why, best regards Edited May 17, 2021 by Hector Christiaen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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