Jill Morgan Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I was down in Toronto this past weekend and took some shots outside Roger's Centre where the Blue Jays play baseball. There is a bronze statue of Ted Rogers and there are bird drippings down the one side. Would you leave them in or PS them out? Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Here in Vancouver, the seagulls have done a very through job of whitewashing the town. If the damage isn't too extensive, I usually remove as much of the unsightly mess as possible. Too much and I leave things alone. Statues are a tough call, though. If Mr. Rogers is really dirty, no one will probably license the image; so I'd probably try to clean him up as best you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Morgan Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 I decided to edit them out. There weren't too many, so might as well clean the man up. Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I have that problem with everything I shoot on New York streets. It's a dirty city. Worse are shots of window displays and the very worst of all are pics of Peking ducks hanging in a restaurant window in Chinatown . . . a thousand greasy duck-fat spots. I consider my subjects as romantic realism, so the trash and cigarette butts have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Hobson Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Leave it. If it's news/archive/reportage, then it should be left. It's supposed to be as is. Anything else would be dishonest/unethical. If it's not for editorial and the client wants it removing then s/he needs to employ a professional retoucher. So, it still should be left. End of. LEAVE IT! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Leave it. If it's news/archive/reportage, then it should be left. It's supposed to be as is. Anything else would be dishonest/unethical. If it's not for editorial and the client wants it removing then s/he needs to employ a professional retoucher. So, it still should be left. End of. LEAVE IT! :-) Nonsense. Yes, if it were reportage one would not retouch the image, but the lady is shooting stock, so it makes sense to clean things up . . . unless of course there's some breaking news story about birds pooping on statues in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I decided to edit them out. There weren't too many, so might as well clean the man up. Jill Good move. Hopefully Rob Ford will stay clean as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I was down in Toronto this past weekend and took some shots outside Roger's Centre where the Blue Jays play baseball. There is a bronze statue of Ted Rogers and there are bird drippings down the one side. Would you leave them in or PS them out? Jill Get up there with a bucket of soapy water and a mop. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. I actually did that kind of cleanup (a broom and a scoop) in Buenos Aires when I was doing an assignment shoot there. The street cleaners were on strike. The natives thought I was nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Todd Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. I actually did that kind of cleanup (a broom and a scoop) in Buenos Aires when I was doing an assignment shoot there. The street cleaners were on strike. The natives thought I was nuts. Was that in the days before you had Photoshop, Ed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. I actually did that kind of cleanup (a broom and a scoop) in Buenos Aires when I was doing an assignment shoot there. The street cleaners were on strike. The natives thought I was nuts. Was that in the days before you had Photoshop, Ed? LOL Oh yes, Alex -- back in film days. I do it in Photoshop now like we all do. The early '80s was the last time I visited South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I was down in Toronto this past weekend and took some shots outside Roger's Centre where the Blue Jays play baseball. There is a bronze statue of Ted Rogers and there are bird drippings down the one side. Would you leave them in or PS them out? Jill Get up there with a bucket of soapy water and a mop. Allan Or just wait for a really good rainstorm and then hurry back before the birds do it all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. Only if you supply the pail, soap, water and mop aannnnd pay my first class return air fare. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete A Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 How would a picture of a statue be categorized here on Alamy? It is a photo but also someone elses artwork. Do you need permission from the artist or the owner to put the image on a stock site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. Only if you supply the pail, soap, water and mop aannnnd pay my first class return air fare. Allan Hmm. I'll live with the dirt, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I do a lot of statues and I always clean them up when possible. Things that look permanent - like dents, holes, imperfections - I leave because they are part of the statue. But anything temporary that might not be there on a different day, or after a rainstorm, is fair game. Anyone doing a story about bird mess on statues would probably want to illustrate it with a REALLY bad example that would be impossible to Photoshop anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How would a picture of a statue be categorized here on Alamy? It is a photo but also someone elses artwork. Do you need permission from the artist or the owner to put the image on a stock site? It wouldn't be used commercially without a release, so put it up RM with no release. Incidentally, I don't know where you are, but in the UK a photograph of a public sculpture doesn't breach its copyright. The photograph is protected by copyright in the usual way, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How would a picture of a statue be categorized here on Alamy? It is a photo but also someone elses artwork. Do you need permission from the artist or the owner to put the image on a stock site? I work on the basis that If you sell RM and click the box to say that you don't have property clearance you should be OK. I guess with very old statues with the sculptor long (very long) dead, you might get away with RF, but I would not risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Allan, do you think you might come over to NYC for a couple of weeks with your mop and pail? I could give you a list of things to work on. Only if you supply the pail, soap, water and mop aannnnd pay my first class return air fare. Allan Hmm. I'll live with the dirt, thanks. That's how I'm living at the moment, must do some housework soon! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Robinson Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 oops Sorry, pressed quote instead of edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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