Nodvandigtid Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 It's hurtling along at at real pace. Here's an article that might of interest and of course another possible impact on us. AI-powered watermark removal poses uncomfortable implications for content use: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just tried it on one of my own Alamy previews, a fairly messy scene, it removed most of the Alamy watermarks, just a few fragments remaining here and there. Another time when I wish this forum wasn't publicly viewable but I suppose the genie is out of the bottle. The comments under the Twitter post are interesting, but not necessarily in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I suppose Alamy saw this coming and so started to place more emphasis on chasing infringements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I have noted that the POD site I submit images to is accepting AI images. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StokeCreative Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 AI is evolving so rapidly, and as a design educator I feel the need to keep on top of it. Students will use it. As a content creator though its a bit scary. I'm a fence sitter and indeed I have a few illustrations on Alamy created with MidJourney from my text prompts (but with keywords like 'controversy'). Photographers and Illustrators should perhaps be worried long term. The fact that these AI algorithms scrape billions of images means it would be very easy for any of our images to be 'used' without permission. However at the end of the day, many new technologies have replaced or enhanced existing technology, workflow or indeed jobs. Photographers, artists, and musicians have always borrowed to some extent. Some would say progress. I remain interested,' but sceptical. Hugh (P.S I'm not referring to removal of watermarks here, clearly wrong, which I realise this post is primarily about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansos Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 47 minutes ago, StokeCreative said: AI is evolving so rapidly, and as a design educator I feel the need to keep on top of it. Students will use it. As a content creator though its a bit scary. I'm a fence sitter and indeed I have a few illustrations on Alamy created with MidJourney from my text prompts (but with keywords like 'controversy'). Photographers and Illustrators should perhaps be worried long term. The fact that these AI algorithms scrape billions of images means it would be very easy for any of our images to be 'used' without permission. However at the end of the day, many new technologies have replaced or enhanced existing technology, workflow or indeed jobs. Photographers, artists, and musicians have always borrowed to some extent. Some would say progress. I remain interested,' but sceptical. Hugh (P.S I'm not referring to removal of watermarks here, clearly wrong, which I realise this post is primarily about) I feel that I should be interested, and to some extend I am, but it's beginning to feel as if I'm reaching one of those moments similar to that when you had to explain to one's elderly parents how to use the VHS player remote control/timer thingy! Have a go with this one... https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/old-style-generator Edited January 29 by Jansos added URL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, Jansos said: I feel that I should be interested, and to some extend I am, but it's beginning to feel as if I'm reaching one of those moments similar to that when you had to explain to one's elderly parents how to use the VHS player remote control/timer thingy! Still can't get mine to work. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Mmmm.... Beware??? According to "Captain Hook's" comments on the DPReview site, there's potentially a limited "rights grab" on any images submitted for processing https://www.dpreview.com/news/0407669255/ai-powered-watermark-removal-poses-uncomfortable-implications-for-content-use Reading the terms & conditions: (This company is based in India) 9. License and Use of your Content 9.1 You grant to us a royalty-free, worldwide, non-exclusive, sub-licensable and transferable license to use that Content including to reproduce, distribute, create derivative works, display, and perform it for any purpose in connection with the Service and our business, including for the purpose of promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service. This license is perpetual and authorizes us to make your Content available only for personal and non-commercial purposes, and only as permitted by the functionality of the Service. " I haven't download and installed the software, so I'm relying on the accuracy of Captain Hook's post. But, if you do download the software, check the licence terms!! Given that the software claims to be "free and forever will be", it makes me wonder what's in it for the developers? An image rights grab? Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 47 minutes ago, M.Chapman said: it makes me wonder what's in it for the developers? Hopefully they won't find my rather unsuccessful offering any use but thanks for pointing that out. Their pricing, or rather I suppose their business model is weird, who is going to pay $299 a month to remove watermarks from up to 5000 images? Also strange that their 'Product of the day' No.2 rating is from March 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Chapman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Oh - I missed their bulk processing options. 12 hours ago, Harry Harrison said: their business model is weird, who is going to pay $299 a month to remove watermarks from up to 5000 images? Presumably folks who are up to no good and who are intent on depriving the image creators of their rights and income? Should be illegal. Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodvandigtid Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 ‘ChatGPT said I did not exist’: how artists and writers are fighting back against AI | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Harrison Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) Something from the BBC Sounds Tech Tent series, which I think is available worldwide. Contributions from Tim Flach, current president of AoP and renowned photographer of animals (5m 20secs). Followed by two representatives from SS AI. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct4kj9 Edited March 21 by Harry Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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