John Mitchell Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, wiskerke said: Leonard Cohen wim Yes, Lennie got stiffed financially and had to go back to touring in his 70's in order to pay the bills. However, I think he had a good time and made lots of money before departing for the "tower of song". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 No no—Len and Bob and Patti were pro entertainers. Next you'll be saying that Miles Davis was a painter who sometimes played the trumpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Ed Rooney said: No no—Len and Bob and Patti were pro entertainers. Next you'll be saying that Miles Davis was a painter who sometimes played the trumpet. Yes, Lennie became an entertainer, but he started out as a reclusive poet. I don't imagine that he ever made much money from his poetry books. I bought a few of them, though, and they are still on my bookshelf. People of course don't write poetry in order to make money, which is a good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 John, I was responding to Mz Brown's comment: "The last poet to make enough to live on from readings and books was Allan Ginsberg, and even he ended up teaching." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizBrown Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: Commercial poetry? You're forgetting Rod McKuen. Okay. He wanted to be accepted by the more literary poets. Lewis MacAdams, who was arranging the poetry reading at San Francisco State, had someone who knew McKuen approach him to get him a reading at the SF State Poetry Center. The better known poets like Robert Duncan said, "sure." A lot of the people who hadn't been invited to read at SF State got extremely upset. Lewis arranged for a larger hall since supposedly McKuen had all sorts of fans. I didn't go, but heard from MacAdams that it was a bust. McKuen fans weren't going to go to a SF State event, and the SF State regulars stayed home. The Wikipedia entry on him has him more a song writer than a poet. I have an original first edition small press Patti Smith book. She was both a poet and a song writer and singer, but I think she was more musical performer -- and she had amazing stage presence the times I've seen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Ah, this is starting to drift towards tastes and preferences. It won't be long before members start posting their own little gems of verse. 🤒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Incy Wincy Spider ------- Allan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Incy Wincy!!!! You Brits speak so strangely???? It's Itsy Bitsy. Now don't start on Canon vs. Nikon..... Paulette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shearwater Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, NYCat said: Incy Wincy!!!! You Brits speak so strangely???? It's Itsy Bitsy. Now don't start on Canon vs. Nikon..... Paulette Tomato...tomatoe 🎶 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 In the market in Oxford, I would say in a flawless Oxbridge accent, "May I have a half pound of tomatoes, please." Very different from the way we would say it in Brooklyn. I still can't understand Scouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Llun Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: In the market in Oxford, I would say in a flawless Oxbridge accent, "May I have a half pound of tomatoes, please." Very different from the way we would say it in Brooklyn. I still can't understand Scouse. How would you manage in a S.Wales veg market if you heard someone asking for gibbons?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 In the '80s, I lived in the hills above Fishguard for 3 months. I did okay. But, Dyn, I'm not complaining about terms or catch phrases—they are different everywhere. Here in Liverpool, I can't understand anything the hardcore Scousers are saying. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Llun Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Your ear will get attuned in time. I have a cottage in far northwest Wales and the accent there - like the Welsh language, is as different from here (mid west) and S. Wales as you can imagine. You get an 'ear' for it. Many people argue that Pembrokeshire isn't Wales at all. I'm saying nothing as I have several long-time friends who live there! Pete Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Pete (or Dyn), I've been here over a year now. The people are very nice, friendly, and helpful. I'm a musician and was an actor and I can do most accents. I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Llun Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I was on a long photographic trip in Northumberland some years ago and was shopping for veg to take back to the place we had rented for the duration. A very nice guy who worked in the shop came up to me and asked me if I wanted anything weird. I couldn't imagine what veg would come under that category until i realised he had said weighed in a Geordie accent. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dyn Llun said: I was on a long photographic trip in Northumberland some years ago and was shopping for veg to take back to the place we had rented for the duration. A very nice guy who worked in the shop came up to me and asked me if I wanted anything weird. I couldn't imagine what veg would come under that category until i realised he had said weighed in a Geordie accent. Pete EEE! Wi aye man. Allan Edited September 18, 2020 by Allan Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) On 17/09/2020 at 11:55, NYCat said: Incy Wincy!!!! You Brits speak so strangely???? It's Itsy Bitsy. Now don't start on Canon vs. Nikon..... Paulette Yes I know it is Itsy Bitsy in the states. I read that on Wiki while I was checking the spelling but don't tell anyone else.🤭 Allan Edited September 18, 2020 by Allan Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogphotos Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 What the heck is this thread about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, geogphotos said: What the heck is this thread about? It's about two pages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, John Morrison said: It's about two pages... It's roundabout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Morphed as usual. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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