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I was cleaning up some old files that had more than 50 keywords now that the new interface has improved, making it seem less daunting, and discovered that it is more of a mess than I had anticipated. Many of my images seem to have most of the keywords doubled, and not because I put a word in singly and then as part of phrase (although that does account for some issues)  but instead some of my photos seem to have big swaths of keywords repeated in order. It's as though the system is spamming itself!

 

Being able to copy all, put them into a Pages (Word) document and then clean them up from there helps, but I am quite frustrated that I have to go through all of my images now. I had gone through some  when the whole new AIM and tagging started and I don't recall noticing this problem with any of my images them; it seems to me like something changed recently to cause this to happen. And I'm noticing it with newer photos. If had been old ones from the days of the three-part entry method, especially when I was just starting out and thought that more was better, I'd shake my head and understand, but these are files that were keyworded much more sparingly, I even checked corresponding images in Lightroom to be sure. So what's up?

 

Anyone else have this issue?

 

After having gone through all my images when we were told to add quotes to phrases (remember when?), and then having cleaned things up again after that.. .and then spending several hours and day all over again when this whole tagging and supertagging thing started,  I had decided that I wasn't going to kill myself by doing it all at once,, but would do some cleanup now and again, not really thinking it was a big deal.

 

However, it seems as though I will have no choice but to review all my images or I will continue to see my views and CTR drop - they have gone off a cliff in the past few months and I'm wondering if this apparent glitch is part of the reason. All of my phrases, which were separated wither by commas or were in quotes, have been split up, so that, for example, images tagged "New England" suddenly have "new" and "England" as two separate supertags, really great for my CTR here in the states.

 

Feeling very frustrated by all this. Really kinda annoyed after being invited to be among the first Reportage photographers, then unceremoniously dropped from Live News, and don't get me started on the new commission. (I am not jumping up and down about the exclusivity button - most of my pix are exclusive here, but I'm not ticking it as I don't plan to put all my eggs in this basket). Yes, rant over but really I'd rather be uploading new work than dealing with all my old images. And btw, that news rant wasn't for nothing. All of my Live News images that I've gone through so far seem to have their keywords doubled, some sort of glitch in the system so it's spamming itself? Weird!

 

Anyone else notice this issue? I searched the forum but didn't see anything about it. I had not noticed it before. Thanks for any clues you might have as to what's going on and how I can fix it other than with countless hours of work. I have ordered a CSV file of my images, but while I use Numbers (Mac's version of Excel) for keeping track of various financial matters, I don't know if it will help me with data entry for my pix since I don't know how to export the data from an Excel spreadsheet. Numbers for Dummies perhaps? Ugh! 

 

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41 minutes ago, Marianne said:

I have ordered a CSV file

I haven't noticed this doubling of keywords but the csv is now available almost immediately, it is an automated function so you will see the download csv button a few moments after requesting it. Certainly it will help you see the extent of this problem.

 

As far as I know there is no way to re-import the corrected data.

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Thanks Harry. I thought they sent them out but I went in and thanks to your advice, I downloaded my spreadsheet and took a quick look, not seeing issues on the spreadsheet with keywords, except that it shows various images as "Exclusive to Alamy" when I have not marked any as exclusive. It included one that I recently licensed for a calendar, but I checked and it is not marked as exclusive on the site. So why in my spreadsheet? It would have been okay anyway since it was direct through me and not via another site, but it all seems so random. I have a ton that don't have supertags, mostly images uploaded via LIve News so it's a good reminder to go in and clean them up. But these random exclusives are another story. Ugh! 

 

This certainly isn't a job that can be done in a short time.  But having the CSV file is very helpful. It's just that all this administration takes away time from taking and processing images, but so many of my images have single word supertags generated by the system, I assume, which will kill my CTR since as single words instead of the proper phrases I included they will come up in many irrelevant searches, bad enough already that there is this ambiguity, but as supertags this really hurts. Getting a good sense why, after my CTR was really excellent for my primary pseudonyms, it has dropped. 

 

I didn't realize that the system was generating supertags until recently. I remember going in and adding them when the new AIM came in, but not seeing them added for me.

 

Nor did I realize that the system was determining that some of my photos are exclusive to Alamy when I did not mark them that way! It seems like this includes random photos in sets of similars. And so far, when I check the box isn't ticked. I will probably mark some of my RM images as exclusive, but can I change that in the future? Other sites that let you choose exclusive images usually require that you have to leave them as exclusive for anywhere from 6 months to 2 years. .. So, I'm hesitant since there doesn't seem to be an hard and fast rules about what ticking that little box really means. 

 

I'm also wondering what the deal is with being able to change images from RM to RF. That used to be a no-no and I have some RM images (reportage or Live news that went in automatically as RM) that I'd like to switch to RF editorial. If they have been licensed as "unlimited duration,"  which is, for all intents and purposes, RF,  I'm wondering if I can change their status?  If they were properly licensed as RM, then that would be different, but calling it RM and licensing it as RF,  and being able to change it on the site, does this mean it's acceptable for me to make the switch?

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1 hour ago, Marianne said:

it shows various images as "Exclusive to Alamy" when I have not marked any as exclusive

 

Thanks Marianne, I do find the csv very useful in identifying deficiencies in my captions and keywords but in your case if you are sure that there are anomalies between the csv and what you are seeing in AIM with respect to exclusivity then I think you should ask Alamy, the csv should be a snapshot of all the different fields at that time.

 

I wasn't aware that the system generated Supertags, I don't think it is for me, is this a consequence of the update to the new AIM? All my images have been added with the new AIM in place so that wouldn't apply to me.

 

As to changing between exclusive and non-exclusive or RM to RF then I think there has been some discussion here but as as all mine are RM and exclusive I haven't looked into it.

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Marianne 

 

We recommend you get in touch with contributors@alamy.com about this. There should not be any images marked as exclusive  on the CSV unless the box is ticked in the Alamy Image Manager for example. Please add some examples in your email so the team can look into this for you. 

 

All the best

Alamy

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11 hours ago, Alamy said:

Marianne 

 

We recommend you get in touch with contributors@alamy.com about this. There should not be any images marked as exclusive  on the CSV unless the box is ticked in the Alamy Image Manager for example. Please add some examples in your email so the team can look into this for you. 

 

All the best

Alamy

 

Thanks. I will. 

 

Harry I think it must be a legacy of the old AIM.  Admins are already on top of this as you can see. I have to say I am always pleased by Alamy's staying on top of things and dealing with us directly. I'll ask my other questions in that email too and go from there. Lots of images to check, meantime, I uploaded about 3 dozen new photos today so that should keep me busy tagging. 😎

Edited by Marianne

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Hi Marianne

 

For what it's worth, since reading this thread, I've checked some of my older images, and found exactly the same problem of doubling up of tags.  Also, the number of tags in AIM doesn't seem to equate with the tags seen when I open one of my images as a potential buyer.  But with nearly 9000 images on Alamy, there's no way I can go back and repair the damage.  Life's too short!

 

Will

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I also have found the doubling up of keywords in many of my older images. I haven't downloaded the CSV file yet so not sure what that may show. I have manually gone through some older images and removed the doubling but too many to do this.

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