Thyrsis Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Has anyone else got an uncleared travel brochure sale from 6th July? Country: World English LanguageUsage: Direct mail and brochuresMedia: Travel brochuresIndustry sector: Travel & tourismPrint run: up to 250,000Placement: InsideImage Size: Full areaStart: 06 July 2018End: 06 July 2019PDF and electronic version rights included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Is this about what your oldest uncleared sales are? For me none on July 6th. But from before July that I have these 7: 21/12/2017 28/2/2018 30/4/2018 3/5/2018 18/6/2018 27/6/2018 All are direct sales; no distributors. There is a pattern: the three lowest under $10 are all from India. Two are educational; same description, but 7 months apart. Including the one from 2017. These delays are now quite rare, but before not uncommon, so I am not worried at all. Besides, everything will improve after Brexit, no? LOL! wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thyrsis Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Yes, that's our oldest uncleared sale. Looking at yours I guess I just need to wait...... As ours was a travel brochure I wondered if they had bought multiple images and not yet paid for any of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 26/11/2018 at 14:37, wiskerke said: Besides, everything will improve after Brexit, no? LOL! What's the Dutch for tongue in cheek? I hope it's something suitably blunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhandol Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I have 6 uncleared sales from 2017 27-02-2017 UK Newspaper 2 Million print run 31-10-2017 Worldwide Editorial website (4 images purchased for same use) 22-12-2017 UK Newspaper 2 Million print run My uncleared sales from 2018 are all after 30th July, so not stressing about those yet. Parm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 18:41, spacecadet said: What's the Dutch for tongue in cheek? I hope it's something suitably blunt. We do recognize the concept; even try practicing it occasionally, but you're right: our savage Hun/Vandal/Wild European Native minds actually never came up with something that subtle so we use your sophisticated tongue in cheek. Like vice versa you use the word Schadenfreude. ;-) wim (from a pretty cold Berlin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhandol Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 22 months uncleared sale......is that a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrach Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bhandol said: 22 months uncleared sale......is that a record. Have you contacted Alamy? If I dont get paid in 6mths i report this to alamy and this often helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 57 minutes ago, Bhandol said: 22 months uncleared sale......is that a record. No. wim edit: and so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, wiskerke said: No. wim edit: and so what? And so Alamy should be more proactive in following up unpaid fees and keeping the artist informed about what's going on. I know of (happened to someone else) at least one instance in which after the artist had persisted with Alamy about an unpaid 'sale' that Alamy said they were unable to extract payment from the 'buyer'. Alamy should be chasing up unpaid sales much earlier, so that they can block a buyer from future purchases at an earlier date in the event of this sort of thing happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsphinx Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Cryptoprocta said: And so Alamy should be more proactive in following up unpaid fees and keeping the artist informed about what's going on. I know of (happened to someone else) at least one instance in which after the artist had persisted with Alamy about an unpaid 'sale' that Alamy said they were unable to extract payment from the 'buyer'. Alamy should be chasing up unpaid sales much earlier, so that they can block a buyer from future purchases at an earlier date in the event of this sort of thing happening. They might be a bit more proactive in this area if they HAD to pay the photographer regardless of whether they got paid - but we all know that isn't going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Cryptoprocta said: And so Alamy should be more proactive in following up unpaid fees and keeping the artist informed about what's going on. I know of (happened to someone else) at least one instance in which after the artist had persisted with Alamy about an unpaid 'sale' that Alamy said they were unable to extract payment from the 'buyer'. Alamy should be chasing up unpaid sales much earlier, so that they can block a buyer from future purchases at an earlier date in the event of this sort of thing happening. I know of one instance also: the failed Brazilian distributor. But that was some years ago. I think I lost 3 licenses that way. As a follow up to my earlier post: On 11/26/2018 at 15:37, wiskerke said: 21/12/2017 28/2/2018 30/4/2018 3/5/2018 18/6/2018 27/6/2018 The total was 226.64 gross btw. Two have been cleared, and will be paid on Jan 1st: Cleared of invoice Paid 13/12/2018 28/2/2018 - from India 17/12/2018 3/5/2018 - Magazine Worldwide Except the list above, my earliest uncleared sale is now 13/8/2018, again educational and all the same fee. So probably the same client who is pretty big. Like huge. They have lengthy processes making books and programs and have equally long processes paying. They're like a certain reptile from the Mesozoic. That however still pays our bills and therefore should not be chased away. Although the fees have fallen over the years and even have been absent for a while. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoprocta Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, Starsphinx said: They might be a bit more proactive in this area if they HAD to pay the photographer regardless of whether they got paid - but we all know that isn't going to happen In that scenario, sales wouldn't be reported until they'd been paid by the customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsphinx Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Cryptoprocta said: In that scenario, sales wouldn't be reported until they'd been paid by the customer. Which would result in a lot of reports of unauthorised use as people spotted their work before it was paid for. I do appreciate where the selling and payment model at Alamy comes from and how it originated - but technology has advanced enough to stop some of the worst abuses I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhandol Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Pietrach said: Have you contacted Alamy? If I dont get paid in 6mths i report this to alamy and this often helps. Yes thanks, I did report this to Alamy 7 weeks ago and yet six of my 2017 sales still remain uncleared and of course the worst offender as usual is the right wing tightwad "Daily Mail", they still have my image of the Pimlico Plumbers Van on the online edition. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3456022/Tory-backing-plumbing-firm-rich-famous-avoided-paying-tax-used-case-Stringfellow-s-lapdancer-defence-employment-tribunal.html It's just frustrating when you haven't had an alamy payout this month whilst my balance carried forward (uncleared sales) is $650.71 , and only $32.51 cleared. Parm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdemas Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Bhandol said: Yes thanks, I did report this to Alamy 7 weeks ago and yet six of my 2017 sales still remain uncleared and of course the worst offender as usual is the *** "Daily Mail", they still have my image of the Pimlico Plumbers Van on the online edition. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3456022/Tory-backing-plumbing-firm-rich-famous-avoided-paying-tax-used-case-Stringfellow-s-lapdancer-defence-employment-tribunal.html It's just frustrating when you haven't had an alamy payout this month whilst my balance carried forward (uncleared sales) is $650.71 , and only $32.51 cleared. Parm Parm, while I feel and understand your frustration and opinions, it really doesn't pay to insult Alamy's clients here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marb Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Incidently, how can you see uncleared funds as the sales accounts requires you to have a degree in gobbldeygook to understand it ? Seriously confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvallee Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Marb said: Incidently, how can you see uncleared funds as the sales accounts requires you to have a degree in gobbldeygook to understand it ? Seriously confusing. It says at the top of the screen. x = uncleared o = cleared Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Marb said: Incidently, how can you see uncleared funds as the sales accounts requires you to have a degree in gobbldeygook to understand it ? Seriously confusing. In your Net revenue sales report, under Date it gives the date for Cleared - of invoice - Paid. And those are just that: the dates of when the sum was cleared; when the sale was invoiced and when the sum has been paid to you. Followed by some, but not all of the specifics of the sale. If you download the .csv file by clicking the download button, you'll see the license details as well. Unless you only sell RF of course. Why the form has not been designed in chronological order: Invoice - Cleared - Paid, is beyond me. Maybe it's a bookkeepers thing. (You have to be logged in for the link to work) wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 21/12/2018 at 15:59, Cryptoprocta said: On 21/12/2018 at 15:00, Starsphinx said: They might be a bit more proactive in this area if they HAD to pay the photographer regardless of whether they got paid - but we all know that isn't going to happen No agent would subject itself to a contract committing it to pay funds it hadn't received. It's always been Alamy's pilocy, unlike other agents, to be up-front about reporting licences- and refunds- promptly. That's why we get told about refunds and have the opportunity to complain about them. Elsewhere, so I understand, you'd never know about a licence at all until it was paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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