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My subscription to Photoshop is coming due in February, $179 (Canadian Dollars), and as I only use Bridge and Photoshop, my main reason to use Photoshop was keywording images prior to uploading to Alamy, now I’m keywording in the Alamy image manager. Do you have any recommendations for a non subscription photo editor, I do have Affinity but don’t know how to use it. I was also thinking about getting Adobe Elements.

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52 minutes ago, Normspics said:

My subscription to Photoshop is coming due in February, $179 and as I only use Bridge and Photoshop, my main reason to use Photoshop was keywording images prior to uploading to Alamy, now I’m keywording in the Alamy image manager. Do you have any recommendations for a non subscription photo editor, I do have Affinity but don’t know how to use it. I was also thinking about getting Adobe Elements.

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Depends what level of quality you need/want and features. For me Photoshop Elements lacks some key features 

1) No automatic CA removal

2) Some of the image adjustments only work in 8 bit mode

Affinity is pretty good and would probably be my 1st choice if I needed to avoid Adobe subscription. But the newer features in Adobe CC (excellent denoise and sky replacement) combined with the massively discounted 12 month subscription prices on Amazon on Black Friday means I've no plans to switch away from CC any time soon.

If you're a RAW shooter using a Mac, then RAW Power from Gentlemen Coders (on the app store) is worth a look.

Adobe Bridge is free (no need for CC subscription)

 

Mark

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22 minutes ago, M.Chapman said:

Depends what level of quality you need/want and features. For me Photoshop Elements lacks some key features 

1) No automatic CA removal

2) Some of the image adjustments only work in 8 bit mode

Affinity is pretty good and would probably be my 1st choice if I needed to avoid Adobe subscription. But the newer features in Adobe CC (excellent denoise and sky replacement) combined with the massively discounted 12 month subscription prices on Amazon on Black Friday means I've no plans to switch away from CC any time soon.

If you're a RAW shooter using a Mac, then RAW Power from Gentlemen Coders (on the app store) is worth a look.

Adobe Bridge is free (no need for CC subscription)

 

Mark


Thanks Mark,

 

My use is purely for submitting to Alamy, so sky replacement isn’t something I’m comfortable submitting to Alamy, thanks for the tip about Gentlemen Coders, will give that a look.

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It looks like you are subscribing for Photopshop only and not the Photography Plan which is quite a lot cheaper and, as Mark said, Adobe offer massive reductions at times. The Denoise feature on its own is amazing. I've never used a sky replacement except to see how it works but there is no rule on Alamy against using it or other forms of image alteration as long as it's not Live News. 

 

However, why not just learn Affinity Photo seeing as you already own it. It has an excellent reputation and it's not terribly difficult to learn. 

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27 minutes ago, MDM said:

It looks like you are subscribing for Photopshop only and not the Photography Plan which is quite a lot cheaper and, as Mark said, Adobe offer massive reductions at times. The Denoise feature on its own is amazing. I've never used a sky replacement except to see how it works but there is no rule on Alamy against using it or other forms of image alteration as long as it's not Live News. 

 

However, why not just learn Affinity Photo seeing as you already own it. It has an excellent reputation and it's not terribly difficult to learn. 

 

Micheal is right again! 😉

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2 hours ago, Normspics said:

thanks for the tip about Gentlemen Coders, will give that a look.

Website is here https://www.gentlemencoders.com/

There's a free trial of RAW Power for Mac download on the website. It's a good, fast and fluid RAW processor, but, if I recall correctly, all adjustments are global (no local selection tools) and there are no clone or heal functions.

Gentlemen Coders was founded in 2016 by Nik Bhatt, an 18 year veteran of Apple. His roles in the Photo Apps group included Senior Director of Engineering and Chief Technical Officer. Among other roles, he led the Aperture, iPhoto, RAW Camera and Core Image engineering teams, as well as the imaging team for the Mac version of Photos.

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2 hours ago, MDM said:

It looks like you are subscribing for Photopshop only and not the Photography Plan which is quite a lot cheaper and, as Mark said, Adobe offer massive reductions at times. The Denoise feature on its own is amazing.

 

+1 for Adobe's Photography 20 GB plan being more economical ($119.88/yr in US) and also for their AI Denoiser.

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I did try the Black Friday discount but it didn’t work in Canada, I’ll look at the photography plan, as far as I know I get Photoshop and Lightroom for my subscription.

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I just took a look at the subscription renewal again, it’s $176 Canadian dollars and yes it’s the 20Gb photography plan, I misread the money as U.S. where as it is Canadian $.

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I did wonder if I was wrong despite Edo's confidence in me 🤣.   It was the odd price that made me think you might be on a single app plan. I think it's still excellent value for £120 or $120 in any case. Learning Affinity Photo might still be a good way forward if you are trying to save money and life long learning is very good for keeping the mind in good shape - just look at Edo as the prime example. 

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15 hours ago, MDM said:

I did wonder if I was wrong despite Edo's confidence in me 🤣.   It was the odd price that made me think you might be on a single app plan. I think it's still excellent value for £120 or $120 in any case. Learning Affinity Photo might still be a good way forward if you are trying to save money and life long learning is very good for keeping the mind in good shape - just look at Edo as the prime example. 


So true about life long learning, that is one of the attractions to photography these days, not only learning software but researching the photos for accurate titles, descriptions and keywords. My only motivation for cancelling the subscription was my Alamy revenues are falling. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes Edo is a true inspiration, I can’t keep up with his photo output on Alamy! 😂

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I'm a post-processing dummy, and I haven't found Affinity Photo (version 1) that difficult to use. Mind you, I usually do only basic adjustments. The RAW developer is adequate and quite user-friendly as well, plus it's well integrated into the rest of the program. There are lots of good videos out there on learning how to use Affinity. I like this chap's tutorials (InAffinity).

 

 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, John Mitchell said:

I'm a post-processing dummy, and I haven't found Affinity Photo (version 1) that difficult to use. Mind you, I usually do only basic adjustments. The RAW developer is adequate and quite user-friendly as well, plus it's well integrated into the rest of the program. There are lots of good videos out there on learning how to use Affinity. I like this chap's tutorials (InAffinity).

 

 

 

 


Thanks John for the link, I have tried Affinity but you can’t enter keywords in the metadata so that’s why I continued with Photoshop, but also looking at the features I’m not using in Photoshop because of an aging computer, plus the declining royalties on Alamy does make me wonder if a free program like Affinity could work for me.

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5 minutes ago, Normspics said:


Thanks John for the link, I have tried Affinity but you can’t enter keywords in the metadata so that’s why I continued with Photoshop, but also looking at the features I’m not using in Photoshop because of an aging computer, plus the declining royalties on Alamy does make me wonder if a free program like Affinity could work for me.

I think the $10/month for Adobe subscription is a good deal with all of those constant updates and the tons of information available on the matter.

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23 hours ago, Normspics said:

sky replacement isn’t something I’m comfortable submitting to Alamy

 

Not something I've ever wanted to use. But the AI sky masking tool in Lightroom is great. Easy to make quick edits to the sky now.

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I have used darktable and that allows tagging within the application.

 

I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere, but in Windows you can add tags within Windows Explorer provided you save processed images to the Pictures folder (or have a folder configured specifically for photos) and you have the Details pane instead of Preview. You can enter tags there and it seems to register when uploaded to Alamy.

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22 minutes ago, KitJames said:

you can add tags within Windows Explorer

Unless I'm much mistaken this involves another "save" of a jpeg so a loss of quality. PS and LR don't do this.

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36 minutes ago, spacecadet said:

Unless I'm much mistaken this involves another "save" of a jpeg so a loss of quality. PS and LR don't do this.

You mean if I tag within Windows it overwrites the JPEG? I haven't noticed a decline in quality if its actually doing that.

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2 hours ago, Normspics said:

but you can’t enter keywords in the metadata

You couldn't right at the beginning but they introduced it later on, it's in the 'File' section of the Metadata tab, and this is on Version 1 of Affiniity Photo (1.10.8), not the current Version 2. Not a patch on Lightroom for that though, though Bridge is good I think, pretty sure you can get that for free.

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9 hours ago, Normspics said:


Thanks John for the link, I have tried Affinity but you can’t enter keywords in the metadata so that’s why I continued with Photoshop, but also looking at the features I’m not using in Photoshop because of an aging computer, plus the declining royalties on Alamy does make me wonder if a free program like Affinity could work for me.

 

You can add captions (description) and keywords by clicking on the Metadata tab, and then choosing File in the small drop-down menu. It can be a bit finicky to find at first. Some info here.

 

Affinity has some other idiosyncrasies that I don't like, but overall it's an amazing bargain. Something else to watch for is that, unlike other software, Affinity adds zero capture sharpening to RAW files, so they look fuzzy. You have to add your own in the RAW persona using the Detail Refinement and Clarity sliders. Video here.

 

 

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12 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

 

You can add captions (description) and keywords by clicking on the Metadata tab, and then choosing File in the small drop-down menu. It can be a bit finicky to find at first. Some info here.

 

Affinity has some other idiosyncrasies that I don't like, but overall it's an amazing bargain. Something else to watch for is that, unlike other software, Affinity adds zero capture sharpening to RAW files, so they look fuzzy. You have to add your own in the RAW persona using the Detail Refinement and Clarity sliders. Video here.

 

 

 

Thanks!

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18 hours ago, Harry Harrison said:

You couldn't right at the beginning but they introduced it later on, it's in the 'File' section of the Metadata tab, and this is on Version 1 of Affiniity Photo (1.10.8), not the current Version 2. Not a patch on Lightroom for that though, though Bridge is good I think, pretty sure you can get that for free.

I hadn't realized they had added keywords, will check it out. Thanks

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On 21/01/2024 at 16:06, MDM said:

I did wonder if I was wrong despite Edo's confidence in me 🤣.   It was the odd price that made me think you might be on a single app plan. I think it's still excellent value for £120 or $120 in any case. Learning Affinity Photo might still be a good way forward if you are trying to save money and life long learning is very good for keeping the mind in good shape - just look at Edo as the prime example. 

 

A prime example of what is the question? I do think of Adobe CC Photo as my most worthwhile digital expense. Affinity is good but not as good. 

 

Edo

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