being buried by poor ranking is myth IMO ​😮 ​

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

1 hour ago, Brian Yarvin said:

the best way to understand what you're saying is to look at your work....your work IS your point.

Steve F said:

...don't understand half of what he says 😛
Ed R: You understand half...

---

Brian My Brainy Compadre

 

here's a theory based on a hypothesis:
the more they claim they don't understand

because its in vogue to make such a claim,

the more they fully understand 😛   😛

Edited April 9, 2023 by Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg

[Steve F]

13 minutes ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

the more they claim they don't understand

because its in vogue to make such a claim,

the more they fully understand 

not sure I'm that sophisticated Jeff

[Rebecca Ore]

Content has to fit a need.   Nicaraguan foods are good for tourism brochures.   Doubt guys in wheelchairs are.   Nicaraguan Sign Language is very much  not signs in Spanish in Nicaragua.   Occasional searches for deaf Nicaraguan kids signing in native Nicaraguan sign language that deaf children seem to have invented from a few clues, but the photographers who saw the search and put up shop signs were clueless. 

 

Nacatamales don't care if I'm condescending or not.  High contrast appeals to some; more low key appeals to others.  Same nacatamal, just lit different.   People are more complicated.  Theme and variation -- horizontal, vertical, high key, low key.  Close up and wider angle.   Done. 

 

What I love about where I live is that it's a lot like US Appalachia but without the racism and better grocery stores.  But it's not a tourist destination and that's also what I love about it but that doesn't license photos. 

[geogphotos]

Jeff, 

 

Try and understand that when I give my opinion it is not an attack on you.

 

As I see it trying to keyword on the basis of attempting to predict multi word searches is wasting time and most likely counter-productive. 

 

Just add the keywords that are most relevant and the buyers will find what they are looking for.  

 

Regards

 

Ian

Edited April 9, 2023 by geogphotos

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

3 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Try and understand that when I give my opinion it is not an attack

...trying to keyword on the basis of attempting to predict multi word searches

oh don't worry mate I'll make it thru whatever comes at me;

real or perceived...

 

but gosh geogster, I'm never about predicting multi-word searches!!

 

...remember that time you were in London & you saw
(pick one or more)

boy walking puppy London
boy hugging puppy London

girl walking puppy London
girl hugging puppy London

woman walking puppy London
woman hugging puppy London

man walking puppy London
man hugging puppy London

 🐶    🐶    🐶 

 

well apparently you didn't take photo of it

because MOST of those searches return next to nothing appropriate

& if you had taken it you would have tagged, regardless of order

puppy,London,(walking or hugging)(boy or girl or man or woman)

 

WITHOUT PREDICTING OR GUESSING ANYTHING, RIGHT?

now you say maybe no buyer searched for any of this in
last year, even in last 5 years, OK, but what if you had 50K
different images of other subjects in London, can't anyone here

see that if they're beyond page 100 in "London" searches that

they are going to be on page 1 or 2 or 3 of 4-word searches ???

 

Ed R

 

Steve F

Edited April 9, 2023 by Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg

[DJ Myford]

I have an image that appears first in 80 pages of results if searched for using the exact three-word phrase that was used to find it when it licenced. If you add or remove a word, it gets demoted in the results (but still appears on the first page). This tends to suggest that past performance is part of the placement algorithm, which may label an image as "ideal" for a specific search string. Other images that have not licenced appear much further back in searches with fewer total results, suggesting that ranking is either unique to each image, or each image has a ranking bias applied to it based on its sale history.

[Brian Yarvin]

I'd respond to all this but I'm busy checking out content.  

[geogphotos]

3 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

oh don't worry mate I'll make it thru whatever comes at me;

real or perceived...

 

but gosh geogster, I'm never about predicting multi-word searches!!

 

...remember that time you were in London & you saw
(pick one or more)

boy walking puppy London
boy hugging puppy London

girl walking puppy London
girl hugging puppy London

woman walking puppy London
woman hugging puppy London

man walking puppy London
man hugging puppy London

 🐶    🐶    🐶 

 

well apparently you didn't take photo of it

because MOST of those searches return next to nothing appropriate

 

 

 

Why would I take a generic photo of a person walking a dog when there are far more interesting/obviously salable/specific subjects/ all around me in London?

Edited April 10, 2023 by geogphotos

[IKuzmin]

11 hours ago, NYCat said:

I admire your work and am glad you do as well as you do.

Paulette, thank you. I also admire your images, as well as work of many other members of this community. In fact, I went through your portfolio at least three times, every time finding something new to hold my breath. I apologize for off-topic (particularly as it is in the thread of Mr. JIG), I did not see if there is an option to send a private message within this forum rather than go publicly.

Ivan

 

[NYCat]

17 minutes ago, IKuzmin said:

Paulette, thank you. I also admire your images, as well as work of many other members of this community. In fact, I went through your portfolio at least three times, every time finding something new to hold my breath. I apologize for off-topic (particularly as it is in the thread of Mr. JIG), I did not see if there is an option to send a private message within this forum rather than go publicly.

Ivan

 

 

Thank you. I am very proud that you would like my work. I certainly enjoyed my wildlife trips.

 

Paulette

[Allan Bell]

9 hours ago, IKuzmin said:

Paulette, thank you. I also admire your images, as well as work of many other members of this community. In fact, I went through your portfolio at least three times, every time finding something new to hold my breath. I apologize for off-topic (particularly as it is in the thread of Mr. JIG), I did not see if there is an option to send a private message within this forum rather than go publicly.

Ivan

 

 

There used to be an option to send private messages but Alamy took it down when certain people complained they were receiving ("hate") mail.

 

Allan

 

[Steve F]

12 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Steve F

 

Jeff Isaac

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Lost_in_Translation_poster.jpg

[NYCat]

1 hour ago, Allan Bell said:

 

There used to be an option to send private messages but Alamy took it down when certain people complained they were receiving ("hate") mail.

 

Allan

 

 

Those were "interesting" days. James told me there was some sort of backstage plotting against one forum member. It's a shame because it could be nice to have side conversations.

 

Paulette

[Ognyan Yosifov]

7 hours ago, NYCat said:

 

Those were "interesting" days. James told me there was some sort of backstage plotting against one forum member. It's a shame because it could be nice to have side conversations.

 

Paulette

Some forum members (elsewhere) are just too opinionated, thinking they are the finest and one-of-a-kind in the entire Universe and everything revolves around them... 

Edited April 10, 2023 by Ognyan Yosifov

[Rebecca Ore]

18 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

can't anyone here

see that if they're beyond page 100 in "London" searches that

they are going to be on page 1 or 2 or 3 of 4-word searches ???

 

"double flowered African Violets" vs. "African Violets" -- sometimes what you're saying works.   "Cichlid pair" didn't require the species name or location.   Nacatamal/nacatamales worked.  "Shade-grown coffee" hasn't worked, but  that might be that I didn't get the right details.   I did add "white men talking" and "two middle aged white men in baseball caps" to a photo of my brother and a Philadelphia neighbor looking at a poster about a proposed Trump casino.  

 

As long as Alamy search AI doesn't use keyword and caption boundaries as definitive in searches, we may get as many false positives as serendipitous good results.  And some solo keywords are useless.  

 

 

[wiskerke]

5 hours ago, Rebecca Ore said:

As long as Alamy search AI doesn't use keyword and caption boundaries as definitive in searches, we may get as many false positives as serendipitous good results. 

 

Yes, but so do all the others.

 

wim

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

On 09/04/2023 at 13:20, Rebecca Ore said:

it's a lot like US Appalachia but without the racism...

RebeccaO, that's horrible.
I didn't know that existed there.

I thought everyone struggled but always helped neighbors in need.

Are you Melungeon from around Cumberland Gap?
I thought they were well respected & built the best log cabins.

regards jg

Edited April 10, 2023 by Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg

[Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg]

22 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Why would I take a generic photo of a person walking a dog...

Mister Murray, perhaps this will help,

I asked ChatGPT to write a short story about a stock photographer named "Murray The Eye" who didn't like taking generic photos of people walking dogs:

 

Murray "The Eye" was a stock photographer who had a keen eye for capturing the beauty in everyday moments. He was known for his ability to take stunning photos of ordinary people and turn them into works of art.

One day, Murray was assigned to take photos of people walking their dogs in a park. He was initially excited about the assignment, but as he started taking photos, he realized that they all looked the same. The people were all dressed in similar clothing, and the dogs were all of a similar breed. Murray found himself getting frustrated, as he didn't want to take generic photos that looked like every other dog-walking photo on stock photography websites.

He put down his camera and sat down on a nearby bench, trying to think of a way to make the photos more unique. As he sat there, he noticed a woman walking a tiny chihuahua. The woman was wearing a bright red coat, and her chihuahua had a matching red leash. Murray was struck by how the color of the woman's coat and the leash stood out against the green of the park.

He got up from the bench and followed the woman, taking photos of her and her dog from different angles. He captured the way the sun hit the red coat, making it almost glow, and the way the chihuahua's ears perked up whenever it saw another dog.

Murray continued walking through the park, looking for other unique moments to capture. He found a man with a golden retriever who was throwing a frisbee for his dog. The dog was jumping and catching the frisbee mid-air, and Murray was able to capture the moment perfectly.

When Murray returned to the stock photography agency, he was nervous about submitting his photos. They were so different from the generic dog-walking photos he had been assigned to take. But when his photos were reviewed, they were met with enthusiasm. The photos of the woman in the red coat and the golden retriever catching the frisbee were especially popular.

Murray realized that he didn't have to take generic photos to be successful as a stock photographer. He could use his creativity and his eye for beauty to create unique and memorable photos that would stand out from the rest. From that day forward, he never looked at a stock photography assignment in the same way again.

[wiskerke]

10 minutes ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Mister Murray, perhaps this will help,

I asked ChatGPT to write a short story about a stock photographer named "Murray The Eye" who didn't like taking generic photos of people walking dogs:

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 From that day forward, he never looked at a stock photography assignment in the same way again.

A shame we've lost the laughing emoji. 😂

I can't even remember what it looked like.

😂 (=laughing boomer emoji-also cancelled)

 

wim

[geogphotos]

It looks as though Greenberg has found his life's vocation - following people and their dogs to capture previously never seen doggie pics to bring a revolution to stock photography.

 

Murray doesn't much like dogs or following people. Murray finds plenty of other subjects of interest and doed not need AI from ChatGPT to replace his brain in making decisions.

Edited April 11, 2023 by geogphotos

[geogphotos]

'man walking puppy Miami' = 0 hits

 

We will expect all combinations of child/boy/girl/man/woman/senior/couple X all known breeds of dogs X different coloured coats worn by walker/s

 

Once Miami is complete all Florida locations next? Then city by city coverage of USA, followed by global domination of this market

 

ChatGPT orders it so.

 

Over to you Jeff - practice what you preach or don't preach 😃

[Betty LaRue]

On 09/04/2023 at 08:36, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

  

and they sting they sting real bad ouch they hurt like a nail through each hand,
oh Betty help me I'm bleeding, get me down...

"Mister Ed" is Ed R of previous post above, somebody explain...

maybe Mr Ed will explain...
> Ed Rooney 😕: "I'm thinking about what you guys are saying, but it hurts my head." 

 

> Murray The I: I think that all we need to do is follow Alamy advice.

 

Betty, Murray The I is dismissing my altruistic thread !!
Can't someone give hope to those who think being buried
in one word searches gives them NO hope, can't they??

 😨to all of you 😨buried in one word searches  😨it is NOT hopeless 😨it truly 😨is NOT   

Sorry, I’ve been away from the forum for a few days, Jeff!

I do agree with Paulette, everyone. I have never thought Jeff means to trample on feelings with his heavy boots. He just has heavy boots, is all. And believe it or not, he is trying to share how he is successful with us.  Some of us coach our words carefully. Jeff can be a bit blunt but I’ve never felt he means harm.
Ignore the bluntness and listen to the message. There’s gold to be found there. 

 

[Betty LaRue]

5 hours ago, wiskerke said:

A shame we've lost the laughing emoji. 😂

I can't even remember what it looked like.

😂 (=laughing boomer emoji-also cancelled)

 

wim

  you mean these, wim? You have to scroll down to the very end. Why they were demoted to there, I have no idea.
Oh, yeah……

[DJ Myford]

11 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

Mister Murray, perhaps this will help,

I asked ChatGPT to write a short story about a stock photographer named "Murray The Eye" who didn't like taking generic photos of people walking dogs:

 

 

Murray "The Eye" was a stock photographer who had a keen eye for capturing the beauty in everyday moments. He was known for his ability to take stunning photos of ordinary people and turn them into works of art.

One day, Murray was assigned to take photos of people walking their dogs in a park. He was initially excited about the assignment, but as he started taking photos, he realized that they all looked the same. The people were all dressed in similar clothing, and the dogs were all of a similar breed. Murray found himself getting frustrated, as he didn't want to take generic photos that looked like every other dog-walking photo on stock photography websites.

He put down his camera and sat down on a nearby bench, trying to think of a way to make the photos more unique. As he sat there, he noticed a woman walking a tiny chihuahua. The woman was wearing a bright red coat, and her chihuahua had a matching red leash. Murray was struck by how the color of the woman's coat and the leash stood out against the green of the park.

He got up from the bench and followed the woman, taking photos of her and her dog from different angles. He captured the way the sun hit the red coat, making it almost glow, and the way the chihuahua's ears perked up whenever it saw another dog.

Murray continued walking through the park, looking for other unique moments to capture. He found a man with a golden retriever who was throwing a frisbee for his dog. The dog was jumping and catching the frisbee mid-air, and Murray was able to capture the moment perfectly.

When Murray returned to the stock photography agency, he was nervous about submitting his photos. They were so different from the generic dog-walking photos he had been assigned to take. But when his photos were reviewed, they were met with enthusiasm. The photos of the woman in the red coat and the golden retriever catching the frisbee were especially popular.

Murray realized that he didn't have to take generic photos to be successful as a stock photographer. He could use his creativity and his eye for beauty to create unique and memorable photos that would stand out from the rest. From that day forward, he never looked at a stock photography assignment in the same way again.

 

Unfortunately AI often does a poor job of representing the real world. Let me fix that text to give a more realistic description of what would happen in that hypothetical situation:

... He got up from the bench and followed the woman, taking photos of her and her dog from different angles. At that moment he was approached by two police officers, who demanded to see the photos he had taken. Upon seeing that he had taken multiple photos of the same woman, he was arrested on suspicion of stalking, and taken to the local police station. He was held in custody for several hours before being released with a caution.

[Rebecca Ore]

17 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

RebeccaO, that's horrible.
I didn't know that existed there.

I thought everyone struggled but always helped neighbors in need.

Are you Melungeon from around Cumberland Gap?
I thought they were well respected & built the best log cabins.

regards jg

 

The Nicaraguan economy improved so much that Jinotega now has rush hours with cars.  People do help each other.  I'm a cross between urban Louisville, KY, and Piedmont Virginia (low mountains, tobacco as the cash crop, FDR as the saint that rescued people and sent them to college.   My dad used the GI Bill to get a Harvard MBA.   I'm not sentimental about either.   I am drinking local coffee this morning.    Coffee requires short term temporary labor at harvest, very much like Bright Leaf tobacco.  Cacao produces all year round, so steadier work, but this part of Nicaragua is too cool for cacao.

 

The Niiaraguan rich have the same tastes and desires as the rich anywhere, and pay for air-conditioning in $2,000 a month (US) apartments in Managua.