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I have never opted in to ”Novel Use” and wonder whether it might be worthwhile to do so.

 

What are your experiences of it?

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Guest Ian Murray

Alamy is withdrawing the NU deals so I suppose that answers your question.

 

I was one of the few ( I assume) who welcomed NU for education when it was first introduced.

 

But unfortunately there was next to no marketing to schools and so how were they supposed to know about it?

 

I still think that there is a huge potential market out there for non-traditional stock users who don't want to fall foul of copyright and want to do the 'proper' thing when it comes to images. I'm thinking editorial type uses rather than images widely available on micros. 

 

Probably best for Alamy to withdraw and let others try with specialised marketing. ie) I supply the Global Grid for Learning

 

I also offer very cheap images for Education Use on my website - sometimes even sell a few!

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Unless you don't mind seeing the same image selling for one hundredth the price of a conventional sale, no. (63 cents in my case).

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Some Novel Use fees are higher than some regular fees.

Alamy should therefore count them as regular sales.

 

wim

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I don't think that individual image sales make much sense for this sort of market. More likely it needs to be a collection offered on a subscription basis.

 

Alamy seem to have given up with the idea and most contributors have always been hostile because they have never seen any, or sufficient, bulk sales to balance the low fees.

 

Global Grid for Learning offer subscriptions not to individuals but to government ministries of education, global educational organisations such as the one responsible for worldwide Catholic schools, and so on.

 

Imagine if every state in the US, every nation state, every international educational organisation, were to pay a fee for all its schools to access digital images. That is the market that GGfL is after.

 

And unlike some other stock agencies/portals Alamy has always offered contributors the choice over participation.   

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Unless you don't mind seeing the same image selling for one hundredth the price of a conventional sale, no. (63 cents in my case).

 

When NU was started in 2008 I and many other contributors stayed opted out because of a perception that the sale prices would be very low, and perhaps not to be encouraged.

 

Since then prices generally have fallen, especially in the Newspaper scheme.  Nowadays for newspaper (web) use 63 cents is 1/10 of a conventional sale, not 1/100.

 

Still seems that staying opted out is the best for me.

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I know that I'm supposed to be constructive, but in my experience NU = No Use. I opted out after a rash of $0.83 sales. It was a noble idea on Alamy's part, though. Can't blame them for trying to tap into what looked like a potentially huge market.

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I only ever had two NU sales, one for $1.50 and one for $1.00. I stayed in for two reasons:

 

1. I take the view that a sale is a sale.

2. I am too lazy to click the opt out button.

 

Apparently its coming to an end anyway, so that saves me the effort of clicking the opt out button.

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Still, maybe someone should drive a stake through its heart.

 

If the money involved cannot buy me a coffee at Starbuck's I don't want to hear about it. 

 

Last year's NU gross? $1.00 and .84 cents.

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Last years NU sales amounted to 85.86 - lowest $1, highest $6.66. Not great, but also too lazy to opt out.

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Opted out a few weeks ago...I had 2-3 sales and they were the $1 ones....

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I don't know how much a Starbucks coffee is but I suspect I couldn't buy one with some of my ordinary sales.

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When NU was first offered, I signed up. But it was a total bust. I opted out of NU as soon as I could a couple of years ago. Net amounts earned were almost less than what it cost to recharge my camera's batteries.

 

Dave

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I was in the NU scheme and found that they selected my better images for a pittance. 

 

I understand that these did not count as sales for ranking purposes. Talk about adding insult to injury!

 

I also thought that the scheme had been abandoned - have I missed something?

 

 

dov

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Since NU began it has netted me $87.39. Yes, that's one decent sale in the real world.

However, the interesting thing for me is that of the 48 images that have sold as NU only 2 have earned anything from conventional sales.

NU sales seem to come from a certain style of photography which, for me, doesn't sell elsewhere. It appears to be - as Alamy intended - serving a different market.

I realise that this may not be the same for other contributors, but as the sales I have had are largely from pictures of specially-bought props, the NU sales have at least covered the cost of buying the objects. I'm not complaining.

 

 

I also believed the scheme was ending, but had three more come through on April 23rd.

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Didn't even bother to sign up. Not any sale is a sale, or something along this lines...

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Since NU began it has netted me $87.39. Yes, that's one decent sale in the real world.

However, the interesting thing for me is that of the 48 images that have sold as NU only 2 have earned anything from conventional sales.

NU sales seem to come from a certain style of photography which, for me, doesn't sell elsewhere. It appears to be - as Alamy intended - serving a different market.

I realise that this may not be the same for other contributors, but as the sales I have had are largely from pictures of specially-bought props, the NU sales have at least covered the cost of buying the objects. I'm not complaining.

 

 

I also believed the scheme was ending, but had three more come through on April 23rd.

 

Interesting perspective, but I'm not sure that $1.00 (or less) sales constitute a legitimate "market." NU seemed more like a gieaway scheme to me, which is why I opted out after trying it for a year.

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Since NU began it has netted me $87.39. Yes, that's one decent sale in the real world.

However, the interesting thing for me is that of the 48 images that have sold as NU only 2 have earned anything from conventional sales.

NU sales seem to come from a certain style of photography which, for me, doesn't sell elsewhere. It appears to be - as Alamy intended - serving a different market.

I realise that this may not be the same for other contributors, but as the sales I have had are largely from pictures of specially-bought props, the NU sales have at least covered the cost of buying the objects. I'm not complaining.

 

 

I also believed the scheme was ending, but had three more come through on April 23rd.

 

Somehow I got the impression it is mainly used for people printing mugs or t-shirts.

Which would explain why some images only get sales under NU.

For me it is something like this:

BK5NBB.jpg

 

Some look really fit for school projects, and that may well be another use.

Like this one:

AM5KP6.jpg

 

Btw my lowest was $0.49 and the highest $6.66

While my lowest regular use last month was a couple of $6.24's, and I have seen them even lower: $4.17 to Italy and $4.91 to the Czech Republic to be precise.

My total tally for NU now stands at $195.

Like some others I had images that had never been sold, but all of a sudden a sale would happen after a Novel Use sale. Could be just dumb coincidence, sure. But the small part of my brain that is given to magical thinking...

 

wim

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Thanks to everybody who responded to my question.   I will certainly stick with my decision to stay opted out..

 

A number of people mentioned that NU was coming to an end, but I just clicked on NU and it still gives the option to opt in....

 

Peter Jordan

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