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free association photography;
it exists in writing, poetry, music, art...
one picks up the camera but has no plans;
(even concept photos are planned)
photos are made with no rules no limits;
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is it possible, does it produce salable stock?
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I do this. Have a few pints and off I go.....everything seems more interesting, I feel more empowered...just busking along the streets in a warm haze snapping away as I go,

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Wonderful.

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Have made certain predictions in my mind how this will be responded to and by whom!

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Jeff, except for the stock part, the idea is as old as the hills.

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Back in my teaching days, I noticed that when students tried this, they made photos that were less original and less expressive.ย 

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7 hours ago, geogphotos said:

Maybe zen - I think the word used these days is feeling 'present'.ย ย 

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That's right, "snap here now." ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ

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Garry Winogrand springs to mind โ€œI photograph to see what the world looks like photographed.โ€ He left behind 2500 rolls of undeveloped film, 300,000 unedited images.

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You'd have to very wealthy to do that now at ยฃ20 a roll.

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On 16/04/2023 at 10:00, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:
free association photography;
it exists in writing, poetry, music, art...
one picks up the camera but has no plans;
(even concept photos are planned)
photos are made with no rules no limits;
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is it possible, does it produce salable stock?

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Occasionally.ย ย  I had one of the pavement, gutter with water, and street that licensed once.ย  The picture kept nagging me to send it to Alamy.ย ย ย  Hasn't licenced since.ย  Was for a presentation, if I'm remembering correctly.ย 

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On 16/04/2023 at 17:00, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:
free association photography;
it exists in writing, poetry, music, art...
one picks up the camera but has no plans;
(even concept photos are planned)
photos are made with no rules no limits;
๐Ÿคย ย  ๐Ÿคย ย  ๐Ÿค
is it possible, does it produce salable stock?

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I have been doing that most of my photographic career with Alamy. ย Or as they say " the found shot".

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Yes I have had planned shots occasionally.

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18 hours ago, geogphotos said:

I do this. Have a few pints and off I go

Ta! Ian.ย  This is brilliant.ย ย ย ๐Ÿ˜ฎย ย ๐Ÿ˜ฎย ย ๐Ÿ˜ฎย 
It has inspired BrianWhy to personally research
a feature, "Ranking Wines Drunk by Spontaneous Photos Taken"
Me, I'm sort of a teetotaler.ย  One full glass & I'm confusing
on-off switch with shutter button & moaning,
"Why God why break my camera?"
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As to stream of conscience photos, it probably only happens
IMC when unexpected action comes at me fast & I take a
photo autonomically before I think about it:


happened so fast I didn't think about it
(IDK how to show image only)
(yes, its licensed nicely since mid 1990s)
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11 hours ago, Harry Harrison said:

Garry Winogrand springs to mind โ€œI photograph to see what the world looks like photographed.โ€ He left behind 2500 rolls of undeveloped film, 300,000 unedited images.

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You'd have to very wealthy to do that now at ยฃ20 a roll.

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It sounds as if he was more interested in the process than in the product, which is no doubt why his work is so remarkable. This attitude doesn't work too well for stock photography, though, which tends to be product-driven. I believe that Winogrand supported himself through teaching, not photography.

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P.S. Interesting short video here if you haven't already seen it.

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1 hour ago, John Mitchell said:

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P.S. Interesting short video here if you haven't already seen it.

Thanks I enjoyed that, it must have been a great exhibition. It's reminded me that I've got a DVD of the feature film about him 'All things are photographable', I haven';t watched it yet, it's a US import so Region 1 and I wasn't sure of how I could do that in fact.

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No, not a stock photographer, but he was quite a force, he knew what he was after but it was searching for it that interested him the most I guess. Pretty sure quite a few of those were 'soft and lacking in definition' anyway!

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Jeff, that is a great shot. Iโ€™ve taken a few without hardly thinking about it. I canโ€™t say it was stream of consciousness, more like shooting from the hip suddenly. An instantaneous recognition of the moment.

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The lady in the red sweater below, my daughter-in-law, has since passed from breast cancer.

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5 hours ago, John Mitchell said:

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It sounds as if he was more interested in the process than in the product, which is no doubt why his work is so remarkable. This attitude doesn't work too well for stock photography, though, which tends to be product-driven. I believe that Winogrand supported himself through teaching, not photography.

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P.S. Interesting short video here if you haven't already seen it.

The guy talking in this video about Winogrand is Leo Rubinfien, who has regrettably a much smaller body of work, but is a great photographer in his own right.

Otoh maybe he has a large body of work, just hasn't published it. His 1992 book Map of the East is one of my favorites.

Here is a video where he talks about his other book Wounded Cities and showing stuff that's impossible to photograph.

(In this book you get a glimpse of why his body of work may not be the size of Winogrand's.)

See how cheap Map of the East is. I like the cover of the paperback version more than the hardcover. That deer! I now know that there are places where deer behave like stray dogs, but still. (There's yet another version for the Japanese hard cover.)

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> Brilliant shot.

> wim

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> that is a great shot

> Betty

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Thanks for the kind comments, Wim, Betty;

5+ years ago I stopped using fill flash because it

constantly alerted subjects, now usually strangers
in other lands, to my doings, often interrupted...
But images like that one make me ponder...

๐Ÿค”ย  ย ๐Ÿค”ย  ย  ๐Ÿค”

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2 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

> Brilliant shot.

> wim

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> that is a great shot

> Betty

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Thanks for the kind comments, Wim, Betty;

5+ years ago I stopped using fill flash because it

constantly alerted subjects, now usually strangers
in other lands, to my doings, often interrupted...
But images like that one make me ponder...

๐Ÿค”ย  ย ๐Ÿค”ย  ย  ๐Ÿค”

I havenโ€™t used flash, fill or otherwise, in over 5 years. Since going with my Fuji cameras, actually over 5 years, like you. I need to sell mine.

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9 hours ago, Jeffrey Isaac Greenberg said:

> Brilliant shot.

> wim

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> that is a great shot

> Betty

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Thanks for the kind comments, Wim, Betty;

5+ years ago I stopped using fill flash because it

constantly alerted subjects, now usually strangers
in other lands, to my doings, often interrupted...
But images like that one make me ponder...

๐Ÿค”ย  ย ๐Ÿค”ย  ย  ๐Ÿค”

For one, you cannot do that with a phone. Maybe that's why it went out of fashion a bit. But with subjects like this, it gives it that bit extra.

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wim

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