willn Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Hi all, I joined Alamy in 2008 and uploaded a couple of hundred images over the course of the first few years. Photography has taken a backseat since then and I've just let my account tick along with, on average, 2 or 3 sales a year. The problem recently though is that when I open my account all the images, that I keyworded meticulously, are now marked in orange as having 'poor discoverability' when they initially had a 'good discoverability' rating. I'm not sure how I can keyword them any better (without being superflous) so am at a bit of a loss why they have been marked down this way. Is it something I should worry about or shall I just trust that people will find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I'd say... "don't worry". Alamy's discoverability idea looks irrelevant to me (and many others). Adding superfluous tags seems kinda pointless... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, John Morrison said: I'd say... "don't worry". Alamy's discoverability idea looks irrelevant to me (and many others). Adding superfluous tags seems kinda pointless... +1 Kumar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, willn said: Hi all, I joined Alamy in 2008 and uploaded a couple of hundred images over the course of the first few years. Photography has taken a backseat since then and I've just let my account tick along with, on average, 2 or 3 sales a year. The problem recently though is that when I open my account all the images, that I keyworded meticulously, are now marked in orange as having 'poor discoverability' when they initially had a 'good discoverability' rating. I'm not sure how I can keyword them any better (without being superflous) so am at a bit of a loss why they have been marked down this way. Is it something I should worry about or shall I just trust that people will find them? Might be worth having a look into the subject a bit more in certain cases and thinking of keywords. The two quirky pictures of the white swan against a blue sky only have three keywords! To help you, you could at least add the following: white swan mute swan Cygnus olor anatidae waterfowl and perhaps the location, although I don't necessarily think location is vital for pictures where they could be anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willn Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Thanks for your swift replies folks, Cal thanks for the suggestions, I'll take them onboard , those photos are probably a bit misrepresentative though as most of my other photos have pretty comprehensive wording (I think?). What puzzles me is how the images were deemed well worded some years ago but not anymore 😕 Edited June 10, 2020 by willn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Are you sure the colour has changed? It's just based on the number of tags, it's not moderated in any way. Could you have deleted some tags? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderingemu Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, willn said: Thanks for your swift replies folks, Cal thanks for the suggestions, I'll take them onboard , those photos are probably a bit misrepresentative though as most of my other photos have pretty comprehensive wording (I think?). What puzzles me is how the images were deemed well worded some years ago but not anymore 😕 you still seem to be a bit minimalist. For example Image ID: BE7E8RImage ID: BE7E8R Marae, New Zealand the image is actually only a "close-up" of "wooden" "sculpture" representing "insert what this face is" which is "architectural detail" of a building in "East Cape" none of these words are there, so people looking for this will likely not find it. And i assume someone looking for Marae are probably looking for the full building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexG Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I don't know what Alamy looked like back in 2008, I've only been a member since last year. So a lot could've changed for their discoverability criteria. What I see is that the Optional tab of information also affects that rating. Make sure to go into it and add/update as necessary for the older images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, willn said: What puzzles me is how the images were deemed well worded some years ago but not anymore 😕 Eh? Discoverability was only introduced with the new image manager a couple of years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc said: +1 Kumar And although I agree with what both these high-end shooters say, your caps and your tagging are not good. Take a look at what Doc and some others do. Edo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willn Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Right thanks guys, it looks like there's a few things for me to look into. Space cadet, I didn't realise it was a newish thing, thanks for the correction, perhaps they were never ranked 'good!' I always thought I'd captioned them in a way that struck a good balance but perhaps not. I shall look into this more. Much appreciated all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve F Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Hi Will, don't worry about getting your images to green 'optimum'. There's loads of threads about it on the forum: https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/9625-poor-discoverability-photos/ https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/11478-discoverable/ Steve Edited June 11, 2020 by Steve F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morrison Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Alamy brought in this 'discoverability' idea and then (unless I missed a memo) neglected to explain why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willn Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Steve F said: Hi Will, don't sorry about getting your images to green 'optimum'. There's loads of threads about it on the forum: https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/9625-poor-discoverability-photos/ https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/11478-discoverable/ Steve Thanks Steve, those were really interesting links, I'm going to go through my images just making sure there is nothing obvious that I can add and perhaps completing the optional box otherwise I'll make peace with the orange highlight!! 15 hours ago, John Morrison said: Alamy brought in this 'discoverability' idea and then (unless I missed a memo) neglected to explain why! John, I know, there probably was a memo but I also missed it. Seems it's caused quite a lot of confusion going by the 2 links above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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