Betty LaRue Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, John Mitchell said: Hope your dodgy shoulder is on the mend, Bryan. I used to develop back and shoulder pain from carrying around a heavy bag with two SLR bodies, lenses, flash, etc. Switching to the lightweight mirrorless Sony's certainly has improved matters. Even so, my back still starts to bug me after doing a lot of walking with a camera bag slung over my shoulder. If your camera bag accepts a waist strap/belt, using one can make a big difference, at least that's what I've found. I have a fairly compact old Tamrac bag that has a built-in waist strap. Glad I held onto it. Depends on where the back hurts. Mine is below the waist so I can wear a small waist bag with maybe one small to medium lens in it. For a limited time, even then. I generally have my car nearby and if I must change lenses, I prefer to do it there. Less dust and dirt exposure, also. I usually only have my camera with lens in my hands, no strap, and carry nothing else. Using zooms most of the time helps. And shooting mirrorless helps even more. I’m in eyesight of my vehicle all of the time when shooting my Fuji, so no worries about break-ins. if I’m going to walk about more, then that’s when the RX100-mk 3 comes in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 22 hours ago, spacecadet said: In the UK we go to the GP, who would then refer on to the various specialists. It's all free to us, of course. I'd have travelled around the world by now if healthcare was free. And I'd be shooting with a Hasselblad. Oh well... Thankfully we have good insurance and my husband has a good job, so we are luckier than many here who don't get the care they need because they can't afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Bryan said: Sadly, with my shoulder thankfully on the mend, my wife has suffered a recurrence of back pain, so the Voltaren gel is seeing further use! She's normally a very active person so doesn't take kindly to having to take it easy. Probably down to excessive work in the garden. A glut of apples to be processed etc. and me out of action! Some very sorry tales above, I appear to have escaped lightly in comparison with you guys. Puts things into perspective. Getting back to matters photographic, this has been an incentive to resume my search for the holy grail, a lightweight multi purpose zoom for my Sony a6500 that is sharp across the frame. Glad you're better ... sorry about your wife. Now as to things photographic, I must be psychic .... check out this thread I started yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I have a couple of Lowepro toploader bags suitable for one camera with lens attached and a small bag which also fastens to a belt. They avoid drifting halfway down to my knees (a fashion I've never understood) with the aid of Perry Suspenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, DDoug said: I have a couple of Lowepro toploader bags suitable for one camera with lens attached and a small bag which also fastens to a belt. They avoid drifting halfway down to my knees (a fashion I've never understood) with the aid of Perry Suspenders. Belt and suspenders too funny 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, Marianne said: Belt and suspenders too funny 🤣 At my age, I don't have too much invested in what looks or doesn't look funny, only what works. This works. Hanging the same amount of gear in a bag on my shoulder as I used to do is no longer an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marianne said: I'd have travelled around the world by now if healthcare was free. And I'd be shooting with a Hasselblad. Oh well... Thankfully we have good insurance and my husband has a good job, so we are luckier than many here who don't get the care they need because they can't afford it. Not really "free"! I mean free at the point of use. We pay for it through taxation, it's not tied to employment and it's not means-tested. As I don't earn enough to pay tax, all I ever have to pay is £9 for a drug prescription, and I'll get that free in a year. My MRI scan alone would have cost upwards of £750. I don't envy you your private system. No-one here loses their house for being ill. Edited October 17, 2019 by spacecadet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Ed Rooney said: Senior section? I want an over-80 section. I'll be the only one in it so I'll have to talk to myself. Hmmm. I'm not sure you would be quite on your own and I'm not that far off qualifying. As for talking to oneself, that's not restrained by age in my immediate experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Robert M Estall said: As for talking to oneself, that's not restrained by age in my immediate experience At least one is assured of intelligent conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Are Volarol and ibuprofen gel the same thing? My guess is they're not. I wandered into Tesco to see the price on each. They were out of their ibuprofen gel. Later I came across a Home Bargains store. They were out of the Votarol. But they had a good size tube of ibuprofen gel for just .99 pence. Low dose asprin was only .59 and Liserine cost me 1.00. Wooooo, serious bargains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Yeh, many of the "generic" versions of things like aspirin & paracetamol are a fraction of the price of branded remedies. The same goes for mouthwash and packets of washing powder and dishwasher tablets. The crazy thing is Jane and I who could afford the branded versions, buy the basic cheap stuff while our son and his wife who are really strapped ,go for the big brands. And they throw food away that is anywhere near the sell-by-date, never mind the use=by-date. Crazy kids! and no, Voltarol and Ibuprofen are not the same thing. I'm not sure either of them penetrate the skin and head for the joints very well. The drawings look tempting though. Edited October 17, 2019 by Robert M Estall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Standfast Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Are Volarol and ibuprofen gel the same thing? My guess is they're not. I'll pop down to the post office and see if any one in the queue knows. Won't be long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Voltarol's active ingredient is diflocenac rather than ibu. If ibu does the job for you, stick with it, and avoid the brand names! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Thanks for the advice. And thanks for not telling me to stop drinking beer. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: And thanks for not telling me to stop drinking beer. 😜 What??? We'll never do that, Ed, promise. Might as well tell you to stop breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 In Germany, Voltaren gel (made by GlaxoSmithKline) comes in two concentrations of diclofenac: 11,6 mg/g and 23.2 mg/g. There are other brands which are lower in cost, but in some cases also in strength, such as 10 mg/g. I don't know how much difference it all makes. Recently my daughter in the States asked me to send her some and added please make sure it's the stronger one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, DDoug said: my daughter in the States asked me to send her some Better make sure that package doesn't attract any attention. Those US pharma companies don't like people getting cheap drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 They have two strengths of Voltaren here too, Don. I find it odd that your daughter can't get it in the States. I drink relatively little, Mark, about 10 to 14 drinks a week, that's one or two a day. I've taken to having a brandy after lunch on some days now with the weather has turned colder. There's a nice traditional pub around the corner -- the Cornmarket. Real pubs have a positive ambiance. I drink Guinness twice a week now too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mitchell Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Alamy has some great bargains. We should see a spike in PU Sales because of this thread. 😛 Edited October 17, 2019 by John Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDoug Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, spacecadet said: Better make sure that package doesn't attract any attention. Those US pharma companies don't like people getting cheap drugs. Just cleared customs in New York yesterday. 1 hour ago, Ed Rooney said: They have two strengths of Voltaren here too, Don. I find it odd that your daughter can't get it in the States. Looking on eBay.com, I see high prices for US sources and reasonable prices shipped from Germany. I get it from a Versandapotheke which is cheaper than the local folks. P.S., I could imagine drinking Guinness if there were no Murphy's Irish Stout to be found. Over here, I settle for Kloster Scheyern Dunkel, which isn't bad. Edited October 17, 2019 by DDoug add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Marianne said: Glad you're better ... sorry about your wife. Now as to things photographic, I must be psychic .... check out this thread I started yesterday Thanks Marianne but that tempting FF 24-105 lens is way beyond my Alamy pay grade and weighs 662 g - it won't do my pocket or shoulder any good! Like you I prefer to use fixed focal length lenses from the film era, but carting a box full of them about is becoming , well, a strain! I may try another Sony 28-70, they are cheap and light, and, rumour has it, good copies do exist. P.S. That Voltarol 1.16% gel did appear to do the trick, so maybe worth the premium price? I was out wielding a fork (gripe) in the allotment today. Mrs A has gone out to play the accordion for a folk dance group this evening so she must be on the mend too. Edited October 17, 2019 by Bryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Sorry, Bryan -- we seem to be pouring beer on your post. Maybe we're saying your shoulder might feel better if you have a pint? Hmmm. Edited October 17, 2019 by Ed Rooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Find red wine more to my taste Ed, although there's nowt wrong with a jar of real ale, and I share your liking for Guinness. Never had a bad head after supping Guinness, but, these days, I'd spend half the night wandering back and forth to the loo should I imbibe too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 14 hours ago, DDoug said: Just cleared customs in New York yesterday. Evidently a master of disguise, as suggested by your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TABan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) I’m just recovering from a pulled lower back muscle. I have no idea what I did. It wasn’t my camera bag, I shoot micro four thirds, speaking of small cameras. By the way, I bought a used Lumix G9 in mint condition a few months ago and it is ergonomically the best camera I’ve ever owned and its image quality is as good as the Canon 80D I had a few years back. Plenty capable for stock. Edited October 18, 2019 by TABan Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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