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Are Adobe killing the goose that lays the golden eggs?

 

The latest news on the street is that Adobe is discontinuing its Creative Suite of standalone products and making them available via subscription only.

This means that you will no longer be able to purchase the latest version of Photoshop and use it for years to come. Instead, you're going to have to pay $49.99 a month for the privilege. And if you stop paying you won't be able to use Photoshop any more.

 

http://www.iclarified.com/29809/adobe-discontinues-standalone-applications-moves-to-subscription-only-model

 

Well ... thanks Adobe, but no thanks. No more 'upgrades' for me. I'll be using my old version of Photoshop into the foreseeable future now. It does everything I need, anyway.

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To be accurate: "single apps are $19.99/month."  So CS only will be $20 less a penny. They have not mentioned Lightroom, and that is what I mostly use now. I also have NX2 and CS5. I am retired now with little income, so I am trying to cut out all the monthly payments that I can. That's happening just as everyone in business is trying to get me to give them a monthly payment. I cancelled my iPhone, which was costing me about $90 a month, and turned it into a $2-a-day deal . . . only when I use it. 

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I haven't seen anything of that. It is very worrying from my point of view.

 

No way will I pay Adobe a monthly subscription, that is plainly taking the p**s. There are viable alternatives that I would have no hesitation in turning to, although it would be a nuisance changing workflow.

 

I would tend to think that such a move "could" be somewhat detrimental to Adobe. Like Ed, I am not much into monthly payments, particularly as I am approaching retirement, albeit a few years away yet.

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Ed, thats not correct. You need to pay a lot more. 19 dollar is a student price. Just stick CS6 CC in your basket. You will be charged in pounds. 

 

I was in on it when I thought I had to pay 29 dollar a month, but I have to pay 37 euro. So for now Adobe can suck lemons.

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It's £17.58 a month according to Adobe UK. This was inevitable although I am a little surprised it has happened so soon. The reason I think it was inevitable is that Photoshop (and presumably other Adobe apps) has more or less reached a plateau in terms of features that can be added to make it worthwhile upgrading. This is the only way Adobe can survive I guess as they need to sell apps to continue in business. I've continued to upgrade almost every time over the years but this price is more expensive - last upgrade was around £190 on an 18-month cycle, this works out at over £200 a year. I'll be sticking with CS6 for a while I think.

 

Just checked it out a bit more. If you have purchased CS3 or later, then it costs £8.78 a month for the first year as a promotional price and then you pay the full amount.

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Ed, thats not correct. You need to pay a lot more. 19 dollar is a student price. Just stick CS6 CC in your basket. You will be charged in pounds. 

 

I was in on it when I thought I had to pay 29 dollar a month, but I have to pay 37 euro. So for now Adobe can suck lemons.

 

I'm just quoting from the link the OP has up. It says exactly what I said it says. And hey . . . I don't want to pay for a new CS update every four years either. That's not cheap.  

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From my readings of Adobe's site Lightroom will remain available as a standalone product, as will Elements. LR will also be included in the CC suite subscription at $49.99 pm. This price includes access to many of the Adobe imaging, vector and web design, coding products. Many of us do not use or need these additional products.

 

But you will be able to select a single application subscription, say photoshop, at $19.99 pm. So, $240 per year for PS (I don't need all the other products in the CC suite). Not sure yet whether I'll take up the subscription or not. I use LR almost exclusively now, and I think my existing CS6 will do me for quite a while for those occasions when I need to move to PS for whatever reason, eg more advanced layer work, cutouts etc.

 

It seems that Adobe will be accelerating product enhancements much more frequently under the subscription model, which could be an advantage for some.

 

I'd be interested in what others are using or recommend a change to, to avoid Adobe all together. But it would take a lot to convince me to stop using LR4 as I haven't yet seen anything that comes close to it's capabilities and workflow usefulness.

 

Ken

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Are Adobe killing the goose that lays the golden eggs?

 

The latest news on the street is that Adobe is discontinuing its Creative Suite of standalone products and making them available via subscription only.

 

This means that you will no longer be able to purchase the latest version of Photoshop and use it for years to come. Instead, you're going to have to pay $49.99 a month for the privilege. And if you stop paying you won't be able to use Photoshop any more.

 

http://www.iclarified.com/29809/adobe-discontinues-standalone-applications-moves-to-subscription-only-model

 

Well ... thanks Adobe, but no thanks. No more 'upgrades' for me. I'll be using my old version of Photoshop into the foreseeable future now. It does everything I need, anyway.

 

According to Adobe this is not completely true and CS will be available for purchase as well as the traditional upgrades by the end of this week in the U.S.

 

 

At least that is what I was told by Adobe sales this afternoon, 5/6/13.

 

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When I purchased the CS6 Upgrade back in December none of the local stores had the DVD in stock. There may still be some available on Amazon.


 


Looking at the Adobe website, PhotoShop CC seemed to be the only version currently available. However, I tried searching the site and eventually found a link to purchase CS 6 online. So it looks like Adobe is still selling CS 6 but they're doing their best to hide it.


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The Adobe site is a bit of a mess in terms of finding out what is happening. But I recall reading somewhere (either the Adobe site or DPReview), that Adobe will continue to sell and support PS CS6 (bug fixes, security issues etc), but not with the enhancements coming out in PS CC, which will be a subscription only product.

 

How long CS6 will be available as a perpetual license product is unknown but I would think that at some point in the future Adobe will remove it as a supported product available for purchase.

 

Ken

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I'm a LR user since it first came out and used element to compliment it as I couldn't justify the huge upfront cost of getting PS - if I had that amount of ready cash I'd probably buy a lens.  However, I took out a PS subscription last year and must say it's worked out pretty OK, but I'd be pretty cheesed off if I had stumped up the cash for the full product then.  The problem with not upgrading CS6 is that you lose new camera support, unless you also use LR and upgrade that.  The current subscription rate isn't bad for the power you get and having the full PS suite means I can work in full 16bit workflow right up to the final conversion to JPEG for Alamy. 

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I'll be sticking to my old version of CS2, does everything I need, 

It may do everything you need but does it do it as efficiently as later versions? For example, the ability to use more than 2GB of RAM or thereabouts, which came in with CS5 (on Mac at least), makes a massive difference to productivity when using larger files. The new graphics engine in CS6 provides great speed enhancements as well. There are times when it could be false economy sticking with older versions.

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Each to their own of course, but the developments in PS, but more particularly from LR3 to LR4 has IMO been quite dramatic. It has completely changed my work flow. It really is worth downloading trial applications and spending a bit of time trying out new features. My experience only of course.

 

Ken

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I'll be sticking to my CS3 version, it may be slow but my ageing Mac can't take anything above CS4.

(My brain is getting a bit slower these days as well!)

 

Why does everything now have to be so fast, and why is the print now becoming so much smaller on labels? :unsure:

 

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As far as I can see it will mean that you would be renting access to the program(s), because as soon as you stop paying the "Subscription" you'll be left with nothing :wacko:

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According to this morning’s Wall Street Journal, 5/7/13, CS6 will be available to buy and Adobe is saying that all future software will be 'Cloud based' or licensed by subscription.

 

 

 

I don't like this move by Adobe, but I understand why they are doing it.  I for one will start looking at other options, I've owned Photoshop all the way back to 5.5

 

 

 

Nice to see that I am still the "original one."  FYI that was referring to the name Chuck back when there were several on the forum.

 

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According to this morning’s Wall Street Journal, 5/7/13, CS6 will be available to buy and Adobe is saying that all future software will be 'Cloud based' or licensed by subscription.

 

 

 

I don't like this move by Adobe, but I understand why they are doing it.  I for one will start looking at other options, I've owned Photoshop all the way back to 5.5

 

 

 

Similarly I've owned Photoshop since PS4 (the original one) and upgraded to most versions since. And they have generally been worth it - the last two have had major changes under the hood which have given great speed enhancements. But I've been expecting this subscription only option to come along sooner or later. I currently have no incentive to go to the cloud and I expect many people will hold back likewise. Undoubtedly at some point something will come along that makes it essential to upgrade but I think for once I will bide my time.

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As a thought, like many I do not like the thought of a monthly fee and may stick with my current version of Photoshop.

 

But, as the camera technology moves forward and the computer operating system changes - will we all then be forced down the monthly fee route as our 'old' version is no longer compatible with camera or computer systems?

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I use CS6 and had a CS7 come out I would no doubt have soon upgraded. Now however it will last until I can no longer achieve what I need to.

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As far as the future of CS applications, in his Adobe MAX keynote, David Wadhwani said, 'We have no plans' to continue perpetual licenses. We are not ruling that out in the future.

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Barring something unforeseen from Apple and Microsoft, we plan to update Photoshop CS6 for the next Mac and Windows operating system releases. Once Camera Raw 8 is completed for Photoshop CC, we are going to release a version of it for CS6 that includes any new camera support but without any of the new CC tools and features.Interesting. At first Adobe seem to say they were no longer developing for CS 6.

 

Interesting. Yesterday I had the clear impression Adobe would no longer be developing for CS 6 but the statement above seems to indicate otherwise.

 

 

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I am not a fan of relying on 'Cloud' products. IMHO, it is a problem waiting to happen. There have been numerous issues with cloud services in the past. 

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I am not a fan of relying on 'Cloud' products. IMHO, it is a problem waiting to happen. There have been numerous issues with cloud services in the past. 

+1 I don't trust them much either.

 

I have to say here that I am using Photoshop less and less as time goes by, most of my adjustments are made in Lightroom. As long as they maintain and improve LR, I'll be reasonably happy, and like most folk I've spoken to, will maintain my current CS5 until it stops working for whatever reason.

 

Guess I'll just sit back and watch from the sidelines to see what happens.

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