olive Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Hi, I can't give much details here, but I've just been contacting by a publishing firm who's designing national currency, and they want to use one of my images on one of the bills. They're asking me for pricing, but I have really no idea, as I've never licensed images for anything like this before. I feel like it should fetch several thousand $. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 http://tinyurl.com/pp948hw (He used to drop in on the old forum sometimes; not sure about the new one.) wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 mmmm, first post, no images. what do you reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Palmer Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Click on the zero images under olive's avatar and you will find that olive has 1609 images posted for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Definitely a working photojournalist with a terrific website. We are getting a bit paranoid about the folks who sneak into the forum without showing their images. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Palmer Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I especially like his multimedia videos. Edit: I apologize for posting off topic. I have nothing meaningful to contribute regarding licensing fees but was impressed with the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Endicott Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm thinking a number in the tens of thousands...but it would also depend on the country. I think the best bet would be to work through an attorney on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Click on the zero images under olive's avatar and you will find that olive has 1609 images posted for sale. Yes very weird for someone who has been with Alamy since 2005 or so. wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFL Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Click on the zero images under olive's avatar and you will find that olive has 1609 images posted for sale. Yes very weird for someone who has been with Alamy since 2005 or so. wim I think he will need to logout the forum and re-login to show the number of images. Sung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCat Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I hope Alamy is going to fix this so our image numbers update without our having to log out. Paulette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I hope Alamy is going to fix this so our image numbers update without our having to log out. The number in one's archive seems to be so important in the forum though I can see why a fat Zero suggests to many that the poster has nothing to contribute. Anyway, I wonder if DACS (or foreign equivalent?) might be able to offer a price calculator for such usage. In all my days, I've never heard of such rights being sought - especially by a publishing company - when I'd have thought someone working within the mint would make the approach. Are you sure it's legit?! Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't know of any currency that is directly based on a photographic image - all the banknotes I've ever seen are some kind of engraving, but there are lot's of countries I've yet to visit. Does anyone know of an example? This article http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/americas-new-100-bill-is-awesome-but-still-nowhere-near-as-awesome-as-kazakhstans-currency/280379/ is interesting, but even Kazakstan's highly awarded banknotes are engraved. Perhaps someone wants to use the image in question to create a derivative - but that seems strangely honest for the times we live in... Regards Lionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I hope Alamy is going to fix this so our image numbers update without our having to log out. Paulette I brought this up in another forum. http://discussion.alamy.com/index.php?/topic/784-number-of-images-under-member-description/ Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't know of any currency that is directly based on a photographic image - all the banknotes I've ever seen are some kind of engraving, but there are lot's of countries I've yet to visit. Does anyone know of an example? This article http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/americas-new-100-bill-is-awesome-but-still-nowhere-near-as-awesome-as-kazakhstans-currency/280379/ is interesting, but even Kazakstan's highly awarded banknotes are engraved. Perhaps someone wants to use the image in question to create a derivative - but that seems strangely honest for the times we live in... Regards Lionel Perhaps they've noted the judgment against the USPS for the veterans' memorial- that was a derivative and the court still found for the sculptor.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bell Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Maybe the end user just wants to licence the image so an engraver can copy it. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't know of any currency that is directly based on a photographic image - all the banknotes I've ever seen are some kind of engraving, but there are lot's of countries I've yet to visit. Does anyone know of an example? This article http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/americas-new-100-bill-is-awesome-but-still-nowhere-near-as-awesome-as-kazakhstans-currency/280379/ is interesting, but even Kazakstan's highly awarded banknotes are engraved. Perhaps someone wants to use the image in question to create a derivative - but that seems strangely honest for the times we live in... Regards Lionel Perhaps they've noted the judgment against the USPS for the veterans' memorial- that was a derivative and the court still found for the sculptor.. Perhaps. I acknowledge this is a little off-topic, but I really wish I had some photos to illustrate this, but I don't - that monument is unlike any other on the mall for the fact that it's well signposted to alert all but the blind to the fact that it's copyrighted. Perhaps I'll go get some in the next few days. The real question is how/why the sculptor was able to retain the copyright, and perhaps it has to do with who commissioned it, and who paid for it. Every other monument on the national mall seems to be in the public domain. Regards Lionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Maybe the end user just wants to licence the image so an engraver can copy it. Allan That could well be, but as I said, it just seems to be strangely honest for these times. Anyway, I hope the OP makes the sale and is paid appropriately - whatever that means. It might be worth asking the folk who make FotoQuote, Cradoc Software for some assistance. Regards Lionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskerke Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't know of any currency that is directly based on a photographic image - all the banknotes I've ever seen are some kind of engraving, but there are lot's of countries I've yet to visit. Does anyone know of an example? This article http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/10/americas-new-100-bill-is-awesome-but-still-nowhere-near-as-awesome-as-kazakhstans-currency/280379/ is interesting, but even Kazakstan's highly awarded banknotes are engraved. Perhaps someone wants to use the image in question to create a derivative - but that seems strangely honest for the times we live in... Regards Lionel Perhaps they've noted the judgment against the USPS for the veterans' memorial- that was a derivative and the court still found for the sculptor.. Perhaps. I acknowledge this is a little off-topic, but I really wish I had some photos to illustrate this, but I don't - that monument is unlike any other on the mall for the fact that it's well signposted to alert all but the blind to the fact that it's copyrighted. Perhaps I'll go get some in the next few days. The real question is how/why the sculptor was able to retain the copyright, and perhaps it has to do with who commissioned it, and who paid for it. Every other monument on the national mall seems to be in the public domain. Regards Lionel The 3 soldiers monument added to the Vietnam memorial is copyrighted by Hart. It's a well known controversy, because he got $200.000, while Maya Lin only got $50.000 as the winner of the competition (and did not get the copyright). According to Wikipedia Hart donated his share of the profits to a non-profit which provides name rubbings to families of veterans. (No source given). wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think we're allowed OT because the OP hasn't been back. UK photographers are in the clear because as I've noted before, over here copyright in a three-dimensional work of art in public isn't infringed by a photograph of it (s62, CDPA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Maybe the end user just wants to licence the image so an engraver can copy it. Allan That could well be, but as I said, it just seems to be strangely honest for these times. Anyway, I hope the OP makes the sale and is paid appropriately - whatever that means. It might be worth asking the folk who make FotoQuote, Cradoc Software for some assistance. Regards Lionel Considering that trust is the entire basis for any currency, nicking an image to put on it to save a few quid probably wouldn't be terribly wise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I completely agree, Woody, it's just very refreshing to have a buyer who's doing the right thing. Regards Lionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Estall Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Sorry I didn't check that zero images didn't actually mean that Olive didn't have anything up on Alamy. My mistake. We really don't have enough information to make a useful guess or suggestion. Big country,little country? Third world or modern industrial? Montage or significant usage? Bottom end $500 but $5000 and rising according to the answers of the above questions. Used to be we knew a few agents well enough to ring them up and ponder a bit. We don't know each other well enough or trust each other enough anymore, more's the pity. And anything smells of price-fixing is illegal which also discourages dialogue (in the UK anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Talking about fees isn't price-fixing. No-oned in the business is big enough for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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